VP89
Pogba's biggest fan
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Uncharacteristically bad tonight. It's a tough patch of form for him but I still believe he will grow into a very good consistent striker.
He's obviously not a full time striker since his contemporaries have hundreds more minutes of playing time.
Among the league's top 10 scorers, the average number of minutes played is 1,559. So he's played about 12% fewer minutes than his contemporaries, and is on track to play about 8% fewer minutes than Rooney, Suárez and Kane over those seasons.
That's a pretty flimsy point to rest on when he's scored when he's scored 1/3 of the goals you expected after more than 1/2 the season.
I don't think that's necessarily the case. Last year, Mourinho restricted Mkhitaryan's appearances at the beginning of the year and when he finally started playing, he performed well to the point where many didn't want Mata to play if it hindered Mkhi's minutes. Lingard has also seen limited time over the past year until only recently and he is obviously playing well now. Managers sometimes 'throttle' the amount of appearances players make to (re)build their confidence to where their approach in training can be executed on the pitch.
Only 4 players have more league goals than him - not too shabby or an off form player.
You really used Mkhitaryan and Lingard as examples. One player that has proven why he didnt deserve more game time and one that has only gotten consistent this season.
Morata at Madrid got limited game time, because Benzema worked better with Ronaldo. This is a knock against his qualities as a striker. Morata at Chelsea is extremely reliant on Azpi and Hazard (Hazard genuinely has better hold up play than Morata).
I've watched him since his Juve days enough that him getting limited game time isnt a coincidence; his game is not refined enough. He isnt 'off-form' this is just the striker he is and will need to improve to be one of the best.
That's an awful lot of tangents for a pretty straightforward line of thought. I think I'll pass on doing this all over again.
Chance would be a fine thing, he'd have to get in the position's to miss 3 1 v 1s in a game first.Let me ask you one time question... Did Torres ever miss 3 1 vs 1 in a single game?
To be fair Drogba was at Guingamp at their age.
That's an interesting way of looking at it. I suppose there are traditional forwards out there such as Harry Kane and Robert Leeandoski but they are few and far between.
Slightly unrelated, but how do you think a striker like Kane would do for a club like city and how much do you think he would improve them? May sound like a daft question given Kane's record.
Last post for today anyway.
I mean, sure? But to compare a peak Drogba, to two players who haven't entered their prime imo isn't the most conclusive of arguments. Neither is judging both completely after 6 months at new teams.Yes I see that argument bandied around a lot to cover players shortcomings but sometimes you just can't see a player go past a certain level in their game regardless of their age. Otherwise you'd never be able to judge a player till they're 27.. which in the case of most players you can pretty much tell how good they will go on to become.
Someone should lock Levy in a room and ask him if he'd do it.Kane is completely ridiculous. I'd swap £90 mil and Lukaku for him right now.
Rooney outperforming Morata, Lukaku and Lacazette. How embarrassing
Kane is completely ridiculous. I'd swap £90 mil and Lukaku for him right now.
Chance would be a fine thing, he'd have to get in the position's to miss 3 1 v 1s in a game first.
Drogba was also criticized in his early Chelsea days no?
He isn't really. Costa never knocked in more than 20 league goals which is exactly where Morata is heading this year. He had a bad game and is off form, which happens.
And yet almost everyone will consider Costa a better striker.
Based on perceptions and what others say and not actual results.
Rooney outperforming Morata, Lukaku and Lacazette. How embarrassing
Kane is completely ridiculous. I'd swap £90 mil and Lukaku for him right now.
Not the point for people who feel the need to hit back at other in this case. Morata by some people narrative would solve every problem we have with Lukaku.Drogba was also criticized in his early Chelsea days no?
Sad to hear he's not doing so well. Still believe he'll come good eventually.
He needs to score 10 goals in the next 8 games to match Costa's first season in the league.He isn't really. Costa never knocked in more than 20 league goals which is exactly where Morata is heading this year. He had a bad game and is off form, which happens.
Drogba was also criticized in his early Chelsea days no?
Let me ask you one time question... Did Torres ever miss 3 1 vs 1 in a single game?
Very good point. He doesn't like physical battles and is always quick to complain to the ref.He will take time to adapt. Long balls and physical battles are very common and Morata isn't good with those. He falls to the ground very easily; which is obliviously carrying over from La Liga.