Siorac
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I'm still laughing at this two days later
Ozil is better than Rooney and Kagawa. In fact, we don't even know if Kagawa will make it at this club. He's still unproven. Yet some of you are banging about him like he's influential to our game. The jury is still out on him.
------------RVP ------Rooney
------------------Ozil----------
Kagawa-----------------------------Nani
----------------Fellaini-----------
Evra----------Vidic-----Rio----------Rafael
This 'top class holding player' twaddle is preached by the generation raised on Fifa and endless articles on midfield destroyers. ] Rather the ''midfielder destroyer' twaddle is talked of by people who haven't a clue what an actual holding player operates like. The type who think Makelele was an actual midifielder and that players who are used in that role are only limited, anti football ambassadors.
Which is exactly what a top class holding player is. Think Sergio Busquets or Javi Martinez. Or even your former player Alex song. Any who thinks a Arteta is in that league needs their head examined for proof of a brain...Look at the top teams in the top leagues around the world. All of them have a midfield layer capable of shielding the back four and able to pass the ball more than 10 feet. The ability to tackle, harry, press and dominate and then distribute play on the break is what is required... .
In Arteta, Ramsey, and Flamini we now have three players capable of disciplined midfield play and with passing and energy levels to match.] Last season time and again Arteta left your back 4 exposed and made Mertesacker and Koscielny resemble a worse center back pairing than they actually are. Of those 3 you mentioned only Flamini has the required discipline for the role, yet lacks the passing flair and is also unlikely he will ever get into your team ahead of Wilshere, Ramsey, Arteta or Diaby on the regular.
Arteta was the best passer in all the leagues combined last term. I'd even say that from the start of Jan till May '13, Arteta was better than Alonso in that role.] Passing alone has never made a player good in the role. You also have to a actually be good at defending and impeccable with positioning. Else team would merely employ the best passer of the ball in their team's there. The notion that Aretata is any where near Xabi Alonso levels in the role is hilariously misguided.
It's even more ridiculous how people regularly display their total lack of knowledge of what an actual top holding player/defensive midfielder really is and how they operate.Ridiculous how a whole segment of fans suddenly refuse to watch actual football and genuinely start believing fancy terms thrown at them by video games.
Well I'd rather have Özil on the left than fecking Young or Giggs.
Would get destroyed. Play like the galacticos and lose. People need to accept we weren't in for him and move on.
as much as i'd have loved to have seen ozil in an united shirt, i'd rather be double teamed by young and giggs tbh.
------------RVP ------Rooney
------------------Ozil----------
Kagawa-----------------------------Nani
----------------Fellaini-----------
Evra----------Vidic-----Rio----------Rafael
Man said ozil will make Giroud the top striker in Europe loool
Best striker in Europe though? Get outI rate Giroud, needed a season to bed in at Arsenal and now he's starting to show his talent. Ozil will provide him with a few chance each game, so yes having Ozil will help Giroud no end. Sensible comment really.
Best striker in Europe though? Get out
Best striker in Europe though? Get out
Arsenal spent the whole summer chasing strikers without success (Higuain, Suarez) and also failed in the need to strengthen their defender options.
Ozil is not somebody that Arsenal especially needed since they were already pretty well-stocked in the attacking midfield area. I reckon he was signed largely because Wenger was pressurised into spending a lot of money on somebody.
Arsenal spent the whole summer chasing strikers without success (Higuain, Suarez) and also failed in the need to strengthen their defender options.
Ozil is not somebody that Arsenal especially needed since they were already pretty well-stocked in the attacking midfield area. I reckon he was signed largely because Wenger was pressurised into spending a lot of money on somebody.
I agree buying Ozil is a true panic buy if I ever saw one....
Deluded fecker. He's one of the best players in world football.
Tough couple of days for him, they paraded nearly £100M worth of underwhelm on Sunday (especially Barry-inho and Pile-o-poo) and got beat. Then Wenger blows their signings away by getting Ozil.Glaston has finally taken the plunge into full-retard mode.
Signed only in the last hours of the window, after weeks of failed attempts to sign the likes of Higuain and Suarez, with loud noises of fan discontent over the unspent money stacked up doing nothing.
Yep. I think you've nailed it.
Tough couple of days for him, they paraded nearly £100M worth of underwhelm on Sunday (especially Barry-inho and Pile-o-poo) and got beat. Then Wenger blows their signings away by getting Ozil.
Arsenal fans were much less annoying when it was all doom and gloom.
I agree with Glaston, in a way, Ozil plays in the posistion Arsenal needed to strengthen least. Whether the improvement he brings is enough to single handidly paper over all the cracks that the failure to strenghten at the back, at defensive midfield and upfront have left is far too early to be seen.