£100m: Jan/summer squad additions.

[GlastonSpur]

I don't know how much United intend to spend on whover they may or may not be interested in but you do ignore something fairly obvious.

Clearly the club is saddled with a lot of debt, no doubt about it. The thing is though that the club generates such a high amount in revenue every year that (while its difficult to swallow how much goes in interest payments) it can afford it.

The Glazers may be a lot of things but they know their way around a profitable business. The fact that they have been able to saddle the club with such high debt is testament to that. We're not talking about a Liverpool situation where the owners don't get on and there is mismanagement on a seemingly epic scale.

It seems to me that the debt model relies heaviliy on the club being succesful and being able to turn a profit. Stop winning games then the revenue drops - so there's an argument that they can't afford not to spend if an where neccessary.

I take the point on wages but its not a City situation where every player in the squad is on top dollar. In the next 18 or so months Van Der Sar, Neville, Giggs, Scholes and Hargreaves will probably retire freeing up significant sums.

Of the remainder only Rio (who may not have long left) Rooney and Vidic are probably on over £100k a week so I cant see a problem. Current players can "demand" what they like - very few will get it and its not as if the likes of City will be breaking down teh door to sign half of United's squad.

You say that the Glazers "know their way around a profitable business", but you made a whacking great loss in the most recent set of accounts. Now I've read several posts on here which seek to essentially dismiss the loss (talk of cash in the bank, one off exceptionals etc), but a loss is a loss is a loss at the end of the day.

You also say that not all of the demand for higher wages, as sparked by Rooney's massive hike, will be met. Whilst this is likely to be true, it's still inevitable, given the wage disparity that now exists between Rooney and the rest, that some of the demands will be met at least partially. It doesn't take much, given the squad size, for even a modest average increase in wages to result in a big hike in total wage bill - all on top of Rooney's extra 26m (over 5 years).

You also say that several players will retire, thus freeing up some wages. But isn't most of this likely to be swallowed by incoming replacements? After all, it's not as if you can replace VdS, Scholes, Giggs etc all with young' n learnin' cheapies - especially not if Rooney's expectations for an improving squad are to be met.

I acknowledge that Man. Utd have have continued to successfully increase club turnover, but that doesn't mean that such increases will continue indefinitely, year afer year.

I am not of course suggesting that your club is in any near danger of going bust - your turnover and the new schedule for debt repayments arising from the bond issue will easily prevent that. But I am most definitely suggesting that talk of a 100m net spend on transfers over the course of (let's say) the next 2 windows - all on top of what will be a large increase in your wage bill - is complete pie in the sky.

 

[Devilton]

100 million is ridiculous. We'll be lucky if it's even half that.

I predict next summer, there's won't be much 'value' in the market and SAF will have confidence in the squad we currently have. We might bring in a few unknowns nobody has heard about (and in some cases nobody has ever seen play), and maybe one out of five will turn out to be quality.

 

[Allforone]

You say that the Glazers "know their way around a profitable business", but you made a whacking great loss in the most recent set of accounts. Now I've read several posts on here which seek to essentially dismiss the loss (talk of cash in the bank, one off exceptionals etc), but a loss is a loss is a loss at the end of the day.

You also say that not all of the demand for higher wages, as sparked by Rooney's massive hike, will be met. Whilst this is likely to be true, it's still inevitable, given the wage disparity that now exists between Rooney and the rest, that some of the demands will be met at least partially. It doesn't take much, given the squad size, for even a modest average increase in wages to result in a big hike in total wage bill - all on top of Rooney's extra 26m (over 5 years).

You also say that several players will retire, thus freeing up some wages. But isn't most of this likely to be swallowed by incoming replacements? After all, it's not as if you can replace VdS, Scholes, Giggs etc all with young' n learnin' cheapies - especially not if Rooney's expectations for an improving squad are to be met.

I acknowledge that Man. Utd have have continued to successfully increase club turnover, but that doesn't mean that such increases will continue indefinitely, year afer year.

I am not of course suggesting that your club is in any near danger of going bust - your turnover and the new schedule for debt repayments arising from the bond issue will easily prevent that. But I am most definitely suggesting that talk of a 100m net spend on transfers over the course of (let's say) the next 2 windows - all on top of what will be a large increase in your wage bill - is complete pie in the sky.

You sound a wee bit concerned at the financials at Manchester United of late Glaston or certainly a lot more interested than you have before, a little worried a certain spurs player may be on his way out perhaps?

End of the day no one knows what the situation is behind the scenes at Old trafford and id suggest you yourself simply read the big nice bold headlines of 83 million loss and take it as a given the clubs in meltdown without actually looking at the figures in isolation and on merit, i can assure you people with a far greater financial understanding of recent results than you or me will tell you the clubs far from being in trouble.

Im more than confident money is available to spend on players and big money, there is 164 million of spare cash in the clubs bank account as of today, thats the reality of the situation no ifs buts or maybes or 'a loss is a loss' thats the situation, and given the retirees you mention its entirely plausible United will as a matter of necessity as much as anything spend very heavily on recruiting high calibre players over the next couple of transfer windows to replace said individuals.

Gareth Bale is a very likely target by all accounts so your right to be concerned.

 

[Chrisjn]

100 million is ridiculous. We'll be lucky if it's even half that.

I predict next summer, there's won't be much 'value' in the market and SAF will have confidence in the squad we currently have. We might bring in a few unknowns nobody has heard about (and in some cases nobody has ever seen play), and maybe one out of five will turn out to be quality.

We've been doing that for years now. However it has only been this year where we have opted for the even cheaper prospects. Nani and Anderson were hardly superstars, yet went for over £17m each. And Berbatov being thrown in for £30 doesn't suggest that this years trend of buying for peanuts will continue, especially with added fan pressure and some of the big guns retiring. I think we will be going for relatively big names, by our recent standards. Not big like Sniejder big, however.

 

[wr8_utd]

You sound a wee bit concerned at the financials at Manchester United of late Glaston or certainly a lot more interested than you have before, a little worried a certain spurs player may be on his way out perhaps?

End of the day no one knows what the situation is behind the scenes at Old trafford and id suggest you yourself simply read the big nice bold headlines of 83 million loss and take it as a given the clubs in meltdown without actually looking at the figures in isolation and on merit, i can assure you people with a far greater financial understanding of recent results than you or me will tell you the clubs far from being in trouble.

Im more than confident money is available to spend on players and big money, there is 164 million of spare cash in the clubs bank account as of today, thats the reality of the situation no ifs buts or maybes or 'a loss is a loss' thats the situation, and given the retirees you mention its entirely plausible United will as a matter of necessity as much as anything spend very heavily on recruiting high calibre players over the next couple of transfer windows to replace said individuals.

Gareth Bale is a very likely target by all accounts so your right to be concerned.

Spurs supply us and we supply Madrid

 

[wr8_utd]

We've been doing that for years now. However it has only been this year where we have opted for the even cheaper prospects. Nani and Anderson were hardly superstars, yet went for over £17m each. And Berbatov being thrown in for £30 doesn't suggest that this years trend of buying for peanuts will continue, especially with added fan pressure and some of the big guns retiring. I think we will be going for relatively big names, by our recent standards. Not big like Sniejder big, however.

What a muppet summer 2007 was.

Nani, Anderson, Tevez and Hargreaves

 

[RDCR07]

100 million is ridiculous. We'll be lucky if it's even half that.

I predict next summer, there's won't be much 'value' in the market and SAF will have confidence in the squad we currently have. We might bring in a few unknowns nobody has heard about (and in some cases nobody has ever seen play), and maybe one out of five will turn out to be quality.

We might not have the 100M but I m confident next summer is not going to be the same as this past one. There will be atleast ONE big star coming to our club. I m confident.

 

[GlastonSpur]

You sound a wee bit concerned at the financials at Manchester United of late Glaston or certainly a lot more interested than you have before, a little worried a certain spurs player may be on his way out perhaps?

End of the day no one knows what the situation is behind the scenes at Old trafford and id suggest you yourself simply read the big nice bold headlines of 83 million loss and take it as a given the clubs in meltdown without actually looking at the figures in isolation and on merit, i can assure you people with a far greater financial understanding of recent results than you or me will tell you the clubs far from being in trouble.

Im more than confident money is available to spend on players and big money, there is 164 million of spare cash in the clubs bank account as of today, thats the reality of the situation no ifs buts or maybes or 'a loss is a loss' thats the situation, and given the retirees you mention its entirely plausible United will as a matter of necessity as much as anything spend very heavily on recruiting high calibre players over the next couple of transfer windows to replace said individuals.

Gareth Bale is a very likely target by all accounts so your right to be concerned.

I haven't said that Man. Utd is in financial "meltdown" - on the contrary I acknowledged that you are in no near danger of going bust.

However, your post make no mention of your already very high debts levels, nor what I've said about the likelihood of a big increase in your wage bill.

Cash in the bank is one thing, but it pales against the principal sums that sooner or later will have to be repaid. Such repayments cannot be delayed forever and I simply don't believe that a 100m net spend - on top of rising wage bills - is credible given the longer-term circumstances.

As for Bale, I am of course concerned that he might leave next summer IF Spurs don't finish in the top 4 again. But I'm not worried that he'd go to Man. United, because I don't believe you'd be able to afford to price that Spurs would demand. In my view the only clubs that would be able to afford Bale are clubs like Man. City, Chelsea or Real Madrid.

 

[RDCR07]

As for Bale, I am of course concerned that he might leave next summer IF Spurs don't finish in the top 4 again. But I'm not worried that he'd go to Man. United, because I don't believe you'd be able to afford to price that Spurs would demand. In my view the only clubs that would be able to afford Bale are clubs like Man. City, Chelsea or Real Madrid.

There is very little chance he'll move to United - that is true. But City and Chelsea don't really want him and they don't need him. Mourinho said he doesn't want him. I think Inter Milan are leading the chase for his signature.

 

[wr8_utd]

There is very little chance he'll move to United - that is true. But City and Chelsea don't really want him and they don't need him. Mourinho said he doesn't want him. I think Inter Milan are leading the chase for his signature.

Must be favorites. They must be tired of running after him though.

 

[Allforone]

I haven't said that Man. Utd is in financial "meltdown" - on the contrary I acknowledged that you are in no near danger of going bust.

However, your post make no mention of your already very high debts levels, nor what I've said about the likelihood of a big increase in your wage bill.

Cash in the bank is one thing, but it pales against the principal sums that sooner or later will have to be repaid. Such repayments cannot be delayed forever and I simply don't believe that a 100m net spend - on top of rising wage bills - is credible given the longer-term circumstances.

As for Bale, I am of course concerned that he might leave next summer IF Spurs don't finish in the top 4 again. But I'm not worried that he'd go to Man. United, because I don't believe you'd be able to afford to price that Spurs would demand. In my view the only clubs that would be able to afford Bale are clubs like Man. City, Chelsea or Real Madrid.

Well on the financials as i said previously neither you or me are in an educated enough position to make any substantial comment really, i often read the likes of Andersred/GCHQ/Rood on such matters and they all seem to be of the joint opinion that the clubs finances are in a more than solid position, now barring in mind one of those and arguably the most clued up of all is as anti glazer as anyone on here i take what he says seriously on the matter, his opinion seems highly respected in many places other than merely Redcafe.

Gill Sir Alex and the owners have repeatedly said the funds are there, somethings been said to Rooney in a private chat with the owners guaranteeing future investment (hence his dramatic 24 hour i aint signing wait yes i am) clearly sitting a player down in front of the owners when one was seeking the very same assurances of signings were discussing it says the funds are there, we'll have to wait and see.........the club and those people in question would look pretty stupid if come September 1st 2011 we haven't spent a relative penny on anyone and the retirees have left the club, its not going to happen is it, the club is in a position where spending big is not an option any more its a borderline necessity, Sir Alex said this on Wednesday himself, when the times right the club will spend on 'signature' players were his words, Rooney has said the clubs assured him plans of heavy investment are there so we'll wait and see, whether its 100 million net is another matter, can i see 100 million worth of 'gross' spend on arrivals over the next 2 or 3 windows? yes i can, im sure that will be in line with some high profile departures such as Carrick for example, on top of the old guard.

And well its interesting you mention Chelsea there, they've been even more careful in the transfer market than we have for some years now, whether they've got the capacity to bid what you consider bales worth is not in question however abramovich has made it clear he wants the club to stand on its own feet over the coming years and his lack of funding has been evident for a while now, do they even want Bale with Malouda there anyway?, City have Adam Johnson/David Silva/Milner and now Balotelli who will all occupy positions in their system from wide, and Madrid have a certain cristiano Ronaldo playing from their inside left flank and have just spunked 20 million euroes on Di Maria so don't expect a bid from them to soon.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Bale ended up coming here to be honest, especially if Sir alex offers the likes of Carrick as part of the deal.

 

[GlastonSpur]

.. Rooney has said the clubs assured him plans of heavy investment are there so we'll wait and see, whether its 100 million net is another matter, can i see 100 million worth of 'gross' spend on arrivals over the next 2 or 3 windows? yes ..

Well, 100m gross spend is possible, but that's obviously very different from net spend. The problem here is that, setting aside the players you'd probably wish to keep (Valencia, Nani, Vidic, Evra etc), it's difficult to see which players could be sold that would raise much cash. Unless of course Fergie sees revenge as a dish best eaten cold and the club sells Rooney in the summer, for the much bigger sum (50m?) that his new, long-term contract would ensure.

... And well its interesting you mention Chelsea there, they've been even more careful in the transfer market than we have for some years now, whether they've got the capacity to bid what you consider bales worth is not in question however abramovich has made it clear he wants the club to stand on its own feet over the coming years and his lack of funding has been evident for a while now, do they even want Bale with Malouda there anyway?, City have Adam Johnson/David Silva/Milner and now Balotelli who will all occupy positions in their system from wide, and Madrid have a certain cristiano Ronaldo playing from their inside left flank and have just spunked 20 million euroes on Di Maria so don't expect a bid from them to soon.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Bale ended up coming here to be honest, especially if Sir alex offers the likes of Carrick as part of the deal.

Spurs won't be interested in Carrick now - not for a player who'll be 30 next summer and with Huddlestone, Sandro and Palacios at the club already.

If you sell Rooney you could afford Bale, but I doubt it otherwise. Still, it's all about opinions.

What you say about Chelsea and R.Madrid may be true, but City have so much cash that they won't think twice about selling Balotelli (or whoever) for a big loss and bidding mega-sums for Bale. They'll be intent on replacing the "very good" with the "even better" ... and Bale falls into this latter category.

 

[Ramshock]

this thread has become cringeworthy!

 

[Nistelrooy10]

Dzeko -25 m
Kaka/Sneijder - 20 m
GK - 15 m
Schweinsteiger-40m

=100million well spent

Rooney Dzeko Nani

Sneijder(Kaka)-Schweinsteiger- Fletcher

Evra- Vidic- Ferdinand- Brown


Bench: Berbatov, Giggs, Smalling, Macheda, Valencia, Hernandez, PIG
=Treble

 

[Alex]

See Bold

In summary I think we need a GK, Center back, Center Mid, and either a winger or striker. Essentially to replace those who will be retiring.

I like how you say we will need a replacement for Scholes if Gibson is up for, like feck he will be

 

[Pexbo]

Bale = 25m
Rodwell = 25m
Sneijder = 30m

That leaves 20 million left over. Then sell Hargreaves and Carrick for 20m and spend the rest on Pato.

-----------------------VDS-------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
----Rafael---------Vidic--------Ferdinand--------Evra---
-------------------------------------------------------
Nani--------------Rodwell ----------------------Bale
-------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------Sneijder----------------
------------------------------------------------------
--------------Pato---------------Rooney--------------

You are all fecking spastics

I was about to rip you to pieces until I saw it

 

[Member 5225]

Rodwell
Sneijder
Bale
De Gea

Then I'll be pretty happy.

happy? I'd be feckin ecstatic with that!!

 

[Zen86]

Bale = 25m
Rodwell = 25m
Sneijder = 30m

That leaves 20 million left over. Then sell Hargreaves and Carrick for 20m and spend the rest on Pato.

-----------------------VDS-------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
----Rafael---------Vidic--------Ferdinand--------Evra---
-------------------------------------------------------
Nani--------------Rodwell ----------------------Bale
-------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------Sneijder----------------
------------------------------------------------------
--------------Pato---------------Rooney--------------

You are all fecking spastics

Bale's price will be absolutely huge right now, alot more than 25m. Same probably goes for Rodwell

 

[RedRover]

You say that the Glazers "know their way around a profitable business", but you made a whacking great loss in the most recent set of accounts. Now I've read several posts on here which seek to essentially dismiss the loss (talk of cash in the bank, one off exceptionals etc), but a loss is a loss is a loss at the end of the day.

You also say that not all of the demand for higher wages, as sparked by Rooney's massive hike, will be met. Whilst this is likely to be true, it's still inevitable, given the wage disparity that now exists between Rooney and the rest, that some of the demands will be met at least partially. It doesn't take much, given the squad size, for even a modest average increase in wages to result in a big hike in total wage bill - all on top of Rooney's extra 26m (over 5 years).

You also say that several players will retire, thus freeing up some wages. But isn't most of this likely to be swallowed by incoming replacements? After all, it's not as if you can replace VdS, Scholes, Giggs etc all with young' n learnin' cheapies - especially not if Rooney's expectations for an improving squad are to be met.

I acknowledge that Man. Utd have have continued to successfully increase club turnover, but that doesn't mean that such increases will continue indefinitely, year afer year.

I am not of course suggesting that your club is in any near danger of going bust - your turnover and the new schedule for debt repayments arising from the bond issue will easily prevent that. But I am most definitely suggesting that talk of a 100m net spend on transfers over the course of (let's say) the next 2 windows - all on top of what will be a large increase in your wage bill - is complete pie in the sky.

We'll see what, and if a decent amount will be spent. I wouldn't expect a "net spend" of £100 million, but you hit the nail on the head when you say that the calibre of outgoing players means that established internationals or players of a certain quality need to be brought in - not only to maintain the success on the pitch but to make sure that the "brand" stays succesful.

I'm no financial expert and no fan is happy when the balance sheet shows a loss, but one thing is for sure - the Glazers won't be able to keep paying the interest (and presumably make a profit in the long term) if the club is sliding down teh league - hence why a decent sum will need to be spent.

Its arguable that what ever is spent now (as long as its on the right players) may bring financial benefits five fold over the next five years.

Maybe wages will increase slightly but I don't think that every player will suddenly expect to double their pay. As stated by another poster, United's wages as percentage of turnover is pretty healthy. I wouldn't expect the club to let it get out of hand.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the Glazers began to struggle. I suspect plenty of very wealthy people would be interested in United. Not that I think it'll happen any time soon.

 

[Cantona07]

Out: Carrick 12mil, Park 6Mil, Hargo, Owen 5mil, Anderson 12mil
Retiring: VDS, Scholes, Neville
IN: De Gea 10mil, Schneider/Schweinsteiger 20mil, Affelay 5mil
Rodwell 20mil
Budget - 100 mil + transfers 35mil = 135Mil
Spent 55Mil
Surplus +\-80mil Pay Glazers Debts

 

[Pexbo]

Out: Carrick 12mil, Park 6Mil, Hargo, Owen 5mil, Anderson 12mil
Retiring: VDS, Scholes, Neville
IN: De Gea 10mil, Schneider/Schweinsteiger 20mil, Affelay 5mil
Rodwell 20mil
Budget - 100 mil + transfers 35mil = 135Mil
Spent 55Mil
Surplus +\-80mil Pay Glazers Debts

So 8 of our first team are leaving and we're bringing in 4 players?



I'm not sure if I'm laughing with you or at you.

No White text?

 

[Allforone]

At a guess:

Out:

Carrick
Owen
Park
Neville retired
Scholes retired
Van Der sar Retired
Gibson

IN:

Henderson/Rodwell
De Gea/Neuer
Sneijder
Alexis Sanchez

 

[Chrisjn]

It will be a goal keeper and a centre mid, we know that much. Don't think we'll spend anymore than £30m in total.

 

[RDCR07]

As much I would love Sneijder to come to United, I don't think it is possible because he is going to sign a new contract at Inter. We can't even think of Kaka - he is injured a lot and is not the player he was two or three years ago.

I would love Schweinsteiger to come to United. He is a very complete player. He can score goals and has been a brilliant playmaker over the past two years. He has not been exactly happy at Bayern and might be ready to move to a different team just for a new challenge.

 

[Karel_Poborsky]

Out:

Rooney, Carrick, Hargreaves, Gibson, Obertan, Scholes?, Giggs?, Neville.

 

[AttackingFlair]

Schweinsteiger is a very good player, wouldn't call him a "brilliant playmaker" though.

 

[Georgie Best]

Bale = 25m
Rodwell = 25m
Sneijder = 30m

That leaves 20 million left over. Then sell Hargreaves and Carrick for 20m and spend the rest on Pato.

We wont get Bale for £25m, if Tottenham sell him to us at all, they will demand more than they did for Berbatov at £30,75m... Probably more like £35m... Is he really worth that? I'd bet we get Juan Mata for less... But if we sign Bale, we know what we get, I am almost positive he wont flop as he is used to the English game. It is always preferable to sign domestic players.

Inter will do anything to keep Sneijder, if Moratti and Rafa has any brains at all, they will give him everything he points at when negotiating for a new contract... And at least when he was leaving Real Madrid he seemed to be really loyal stating all the way that he would prefer to stay. Without him they are not the best team in town anymore that is for sure. I bet he could be nearer to £40m than 30.

 

[zain]

We wont get Bale for £25m, if Tottenham sell him to us at all, they will demand more than they did for Berbatov at £30,75m... Probably more like £35m... Is he really worth that? I'd bet we get Juan Mata for less... But if we sign Bale, we know what we get, I am almost positive he wont flop as he is used to the English game. It is always preferable to sign domestic players.

Inter will do anything to keep Sneijder, if Moratti and Rafa has any brains at all, they will give him everything he points at when negotiating for a new contract... And at least when he was leaving Real Madrid he seemed to be really loyal stating all the way that he would prefer to stay. Without him they are not the best team in town anymore that is for sure. I bet he could be nearer to £40m than 30.

Moratti has come out today saying they are already in talks with Sneijder and that a contract extension should be signed within the next week..

as for Bale, another thing that will increase his price is the home grown rule etc..

 

[Ringo 07]

We probably will not buy until the summer but all I want is Rodwell and Bale and it will take a miracle to get both of them. Defour would be nice too. Chicarito is great so I dont see why we would need a new striker.

 

[x42bn6]

I think we'll get a goalkeeper and stick with Gibson. Maybe we'll sign some Russian wonderkid and opt not to sign him permanently. Maybe we'll just get rid of Rooney in the summer - this "contract", if true (I smell bollocks), could just be to shut him up until then.

 

[KGBhoy]

I think we'll get a goalkeeper and stick with Gibson. Maybe we'll sign some Russian wonderkid and opt not to sign him permanently. Maybe we'll just get rid of Rooney in the summer - this "contract", if true (I smell bollocks), could just be to shut him up until then.

Golden gloves are ours!

Transfer news: Manchester United are targeting Liverpool's Pepe Reina in a sensational £12m swoop - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk

Sir Alex Ferguson wants Pepe Reina to be Manchester United’s new No.1.

United boss Ferguson is at the head of a queue of clubs who believe Liverpool star Reina may become available because of unrest at Anfield.

The Spain international is to hold talks with Liverpool’s new owners NESV after becoming concerned about the club’s long-term direction.

 

[Pexbo]

Golden gloves are ours!

Transfer news: Manchester United are targeting Liverpool's Pepe Reina in a sensational £12m swoop - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk

Sir Alex Ferguson wants Pepe Reina to be Manchester United’s new No.2.

United boss Ferguson is at the head of a queue of clubs who believe Liverpool star Reina may become available because of unrest at Anfield.

The Spain international is to hold talks with Liverpool’s new owners NESV after becoming concerned about the club’s long-term direction.

Yeah I'd be happy with that.

 

[RDCR07]

Golden gloves are ours!

Transfer news: Manchester United are targeting Liverpool's Pepe Reina in a sensational £12m swoop - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk

Sir Alex Ferguson wants Pepe Reina to be Manchester United’s new No.1.

United boss Ferguson is at the head of a queue of clubs who believe Liverpool star Reina may become available because of unrest at Anfield.

The Spain international is to hold talks with Liverpool’s new owners NESV after becoming concerned about the club’s long-term direction.

Pepe Reina is a brilliant GK and there is no doubt about it but will he move to a bitter rival of Liverpool? We should snap him if he only costs 12M for sure.

 

[Allforone]

There are better keepers out there than Reina, never happening.

 

[Red Defence]

How can he be wanting Reina as No1 when he wants so many others too?

Come on you journos....knock it off.

 

[Georgie Best]

Sir Alex Ferguson made it pretty clear in the Heinze saga. Manchester United do not deal with Liverpool, neither sell to or sign from.

And that is the way it should be.

 

[Sarni]

Yeah, we will probably buy a goalkeeper because we cannot really rely on Kuszczak to make it here, and van der Sar will definitely be gone in 18 months. That said, I'd expect a low price signing like those Danish lad we've been linked with, he'd probably come at £2m and we could try him out, it's not like we haven't done it before with goalkeepers and Howard almost made it here, he'd have been fine if he hadn't gone all crazy after Porto.

I doubt we will sign a midfielder, Scholes will stay for a couple more seasons, Anderson will have to play so we can finally find whether he's good enough or not, Fletcher has a firm place in the side and Carrick will get plenty of starts too unless we decide to offload him - in which case he will be replaced by Gibson and possibly Cleverley will step into Gibson's boots and play those 10 games a season that Gibson does at the moment. Let's be honest, a proper midfielder would cost £20m that we don't have at the moment.

Alternatively, we may sell someone like Carrick for £10m and add a couple of million to buy a midfielder but I doubt it since we won't get anyone better than him for that price anyway. We won't be in market for the likes of Hamsik or Sneijder definitely, perhaps someone like Defour could be on cards.

We're fine when it comes to wingers and strikers, and we won't sign another defender, definitely.

 

[manufanatic]

you can argue that we havent spent with the likes of madrid, chelsea, liverpool etc but if this trash is true what is rooney saying about the current squad? The same squad which came within 2 points of lifiting the EPL trophy last year? Could we use a quality midfielder to take scholes, carricks, andersons, fletcher place surely could we use a quality winger to give nani and giggs a break? of course but the current squad when fit is still one of the top 5 teams in the world.

If rooney dosent like the look of it he can feck off and go to madrid.

 

[Devil may care]

Some are overly negative and some are overly positive here, middle ground is where it's at I'd say.

 

[manufanatic]

Pepe Reina is a brilliant GK and there is no doubt about it but will he move to a bitter rival of Liverpool? We should snap him if he only costs 12M for sure.

i would take any of several mls goal keepers over reina.

never want to see that twat in a united shirt full stop!