West Ham United 2:0 Manchester United

Isotope · Dec 23, 2023

Danny said:
Antony just did but he was on his heels. Doesn't seem to have 'that' instinct to finish things off

Yeah. I was wondering, why did Hojlund position himself within a sea of West Ham CBs? How did he think Antony can find him there?

Andycoleno9 · Dec 23, 2023

evil_geko said:
Of course, as soon as we implement our new teleporting chip into his brain that I have been hearing about so he can predict our wayward passes before they happen.

Striker's job IS exactly that. To predict where pass will go. Same as for defenders. That is why some top defenders barely make a tackle in whole game and some (like Jones) are diving in tackles whole game.

FrankWhite · Dec 23, 2023

UnitedSofa said:
Oh do behave for once.

I’m starting to believe you’re just a troll, every single one of your posts are always so fecking negative

5th is maybe a step too far but he should be 4th choice. He's playing at exactly the level he should be. We just don't have any good options to start.

Ollie Derbyshire · Dec 23, 2023

I’d look at taking McT off, move Antony into the middle and bring Rashford on.

evil_geko · Dec 23, 2023

Andycoleno9 said:
Striker's job IS exactly that. To predict where pass will go. Same as for defenders. That is why some top defenders barely make a tackle in whole game and some (like Jones) are diving in tackles whole game.

Yeah, like I said, soon.

eire-red · Dec 23, 2023

I'd sub Hojlund and put Rashford on. This game looks like it might just be decided by a moment and Rashford does have that in his locker.

lex talionis · Dec 23, 2023

Yakuza_devils said:
Glad that Moyes not our coach anymore. Feck me, he is still playing so negative football. How on earth SAF recommended him to take over the helm?

Criminal negligence by Ferguson. Mind-boggling poor judgment, if you can even call it “judgment”.

DRJosh · Dec 23, 2023

I find United’s lack of cohesiveness and coaching alarming. And we once thought ETH and his progressive tactics would bring back the glory days…how off the mark we were, more so than some of our other previously failed managerial appointments.

glasgow 21 · Dec 23, 2023

chicha14 said:
Officiating in this league is absurd.. How is that a yellow for Evans and not for Paqueta??

Well Evans adamant he didnt touch the ball for a throw in. Complained and got a yellow card for dissent. Somewhere during all this the Ref awards a dangerous free kick.

Pronewbie · Dec 23, 2023

Crimson King said:
Not sure I agree with that. I also think McT takes up a lot of positions that Højlund would otherwise take up.

I don't know why so many fans on here are so determined for Højlund to fail. Like it will somehow further prove how shit our recruitment is, and make them...happy?

I think you've created your own siege mentality. I rarely make negative posts about Hoijlund. That could have been my first. But it's clear his game has weaknesses otherwise he would not be on a goal drought in the PL.

There's nothing wrong in acknowledging McT's strengths. And no, oftentimes it's not that McT takes up Hoilund's positions. It's just that he reacts quicker, especially during transitions.

At least that's what I've noticed in the replays of our countless failed attacks.

Telsim · Dec 23, 2023

Hojlund has been brutal for some time now, unfortunately. I didn't expect more than 10 goals out of him in the league this season, but to have zero halfway through? It's not good enough. I'm sure he is frustrated as well. The team is wholly dysfunctional, though, so it's not all on him. I still think he can come good.

edgecutter · Dec 23, 2023

eire-red said:
I'd sub Hojlund and put Rashford on. This game looks like it might just be decided by a moment and Rashford does have that in his locker.

Rashford has been awful. I wouldn't bring him on unless there is an injury

Andycoleno9 · Dec 23, 2023

edgecutter said:
Would it? We make feck all chances for our striker

Because his movement is atrocious

RonaldoVII · Dec 23, 2023

I think Hojlund will come good but there has to be a time when he brings him out for a game or two.

ken11 · Dec 23, 2023

Just put the game on - watched the Garnacho "highlights" and can't help but laugh. The guy can't make good decisions to help him execute well. Took a shot with his right foot when he had space to shoot with his left? Squaring the ball into all those bodies when he should've shot?

bond19821982 · Dec 23, 2023

I'm actually okay with how things are going. Should have been 2 -0 up on any other day.

Considering with all injuries, I would take a dry 1-0 win any day. Only points matters.

Speako · Dec 23, 2023

ManRant said:
For Garnacho is a better choice.

We’re clearly watching different games.

mitchmouse · Dec 23, 2023

PoTMS said:
Not really. Højlund quite clearly isn't up to Premier League level yet.

hard to tell given we barely pass to him

sebsheep · Dec 23, 2023

Andycoleno9 said:
I am not sure that it is about coaching. This was pure instinct. Any decent striker with goal instinct would slide there even before Antony's pass.

Then he'd be on the floor nowhere near where the ball is...
Have a day off.
He made a different run to the one the ball ended up being played for, he ends up with a tap in if the cross he expects is played as well. It's just down to a bit of chemistry missing in that situation.

It was also Antony crossing first time with his right foot, no one was really expecting that. :lol:

Josep Dowling · Dec 23, 2023

NK86 said:
Antony produced the 2 best chances for us - one on a plate for Garnacho. Both are not good enough for us (Garnacho may not be ready to shoulder the attack yet if the others are all crap), but Antony has not been as bad as his last few games.

Disagree. Antony stalled the pass for Garnacho first chance and didn’t give him a great angle. Garnacho should have scored anyway. The second chance Antony mishit the pass which would have been intercepted but the defender slipped.

TrustInJanuzaj · Dec 23, 2023

TsuWave said:
Shaw has had the upper hand in their duel thus far, it happens. but I like technically gifted players that are hard to dispossess. That instance that (wrongly) caused Evans to be booked is a good example

I like him, think he’s a decent player, not convinced he’s absolutely top quality though and as I say he’s been pretty poor today.

Cassidy · Dec 23, 2023

Crimson King said:
Not sure I agree with that. I also think McT takes up a lot of positions that Højlund would otherwise take up.

I don't know why so many fans on here are so determined for Højlund to fail. Like it will somehow further prove how shit our recruitment is, and make them...happy?

Who is determined for him to fail? Actually the overwhelming thing I see is everyone blaming the team and manager for him not scoring. It is obvious to anyone without an agenda that McT anticipation and movement is ahead of Hojlunds. Does not make him a better player

Orton · Dec 23, 2023

Our attack love to not score goals. Awful

CM · Dec 23, 2023

Our forwards really need to step up. Antony has actually done okay first half but the other two look off the pace

always_hoping · Dec 23, 2023

Yakuza_devils said:
Glad that Moyes not our coach anymore. Feck me, he is still playing so negative football. How on earth SAF recommended him to take over the helm?

Moyes a one trick pony. Tries to claim a result by boring the opposition. Can probably count on one hand the amount of enjoyable games West ham have played since he took over.

mitchmouse · Dec 23, 2023

RedRocket9908 said:
How can you create chances for a player who is always out of position?

his position is actually very good, finds space and moves of the ball - unlike most of them and makes more runs in one game than martial does in six months

DRJosh · Dec 23, 2023

lex talionis said:
Criminal negligence by Ferguson. Mind-boggling poor judgment, if you can even call it “judgment”.

So true. Negligence and its cascading impact in terms of our other dismal managerial hires to rectify problems that should have been looked at during succession planning.

edgecutter · Dec 23, 2023

Andycoleno9 said:
Because his movement is atrocious

Let's not blame our wingers or our midfielders for offering feck all chances all season, but let's blame the young kid upfront.

christinaa · Dec 23, 2023

el3mel said:
It's December. He has been here for 5 months and scored zero league. Are you trying to convince me he didn't get a single chance in any match for the last 5 months ?

Yes, he gets no decent service

Sparky Rhiwabon · Dec 23, 2023

2 man midfield said:
Don’t remember the Galatasaray game?

laughtersassassin said:
We don't/can't use it. Would need some nice through balls to see it.

I agree we don't see it much though but statistically it's there based on the numbers.

Yeah I’m not doubting that he has it, more that we don’t see it on the pitch, we don’t seem to use it.

jamesjimmybyrondean · Dec 23, 2023

mitchmouse said:
hard to tell given we barely pass to him

He’s also not helping when he fumbles the ball when it’s given to him

Jeppers7 · Dec 23, 2023

Mainoo is quality when you watch. 18 years of age his positioning and iq are outstanding

the_cliff · Dec 23, 2023

UnitedSofa said:
Mad.

Should be scoring even with 0 service. Man’s expected to score without the ball.

So in at least 900 minutes he hasn't had enough service to score 1 goal ?

lex talionis · Dec 23, 2023

Hojlund started off brilliantly, though a bit unlucky, but is now showing signs of regression.

100 · Dec 23, 2023

We're in one of worst periods ever. Crowd dying to get into the match. 19 year old debutising at centre back. Keeper rife for fecking with and Moyesy is serving up this shit.

Heinzesight · Dec 23, 2023

Highlight of the match so far was Shaw’s touch on 40 minutes. So silky.

ayushreddevil9 · Dec 23, 2023

RonaldoVII said:
I think Hojlund will come good but there has to be a time when he brings him out for a game or two.

Yeah. Dont want to write off the kid but hard to overlook 0 goals in the league. Movement is bad atm.

Andycoleno9 · Dec 23, 2023

In truth, overall we are decent. WH away is not an easy game and we are in control with having better chances. We will win this.

Cutch · Dec 23, 2023

I'm fine with that half. We've actually been very composed on the ball and totally silenced the home crowd. Have created a couple of chances and should be a goal up

el3mel · Dec 23, 2023

christinaa said:
Yes, he gets no decent service

Even with no decent service he wouldn't be with zero league goals in 5 months.

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