Valencia 2:1 Manchester United

EwanI Ted · Dec 12, 2018

Reddy Rederson said:
Tactics might be wank, but I don’t see any drive in these players. Forget the manger, they should be able to put in a better shift than this for the traveling fans alone.

Its not how football works. Should be perhaps, but it’s not. When they’re unhappy they perform badly, same as pretty much every other human.

redzombie · Dec 12, 2018

LoveFootball said:
Not watching the game live, how bad are we?

SSDD

11101 · Dec 12, 2018

WensleyMU said:
It's not the entire team. It's the players who should be putting the shift in because they have for one reason or another lost their place, or never earned it in the first place but they have decided to put in a shit show of a performance.

They've failed in a game that had zero pressure. That's on them, nobody else. These are grown men paid millions of pounds. It's on them.

It's pretty obvious the coaching is not working. It's not the players.

DavidDeSchmikes · Dec 12, 2018

Still ill said:
Name me a worse United European performance.

Olympiakos away in 2013/14?

Still ill · Dec 12, 2018

Judas said:
Sevilla at home last season was worse.

No it wasn't. More depressing but not worse than this.

Canagel · Dec 12, 2018

WensleyMU said:
It's not the entire team. It's the players who should be putting the shift in because they have for one reason or another lost their place, or never earned it in the first place but they have decided to put in a shit show of a performance.

They've failed in a game that had zero pressure. That's on them, nobody else. These are grown men paid millions of pounds. It's on them.

Rubbish. it is the entire team. We've created nothing . Absolutely nothing.

12OunceEpilogue · Dec 12, 2018

LoveFootball said:
Not watching the game live, how bad are we?

Phil Jones just hit the deck looking like he might be injured and it's genuinely the most useful thing any United player's done all night. That bad.

100 · Dec 12, 2018

Still ill said:
Name me a worse United European performance.

To be honest we've had a few contenders. Some of our performances in Europe have been horrendous. Olympiakos away, Wolfsburg away, Sevilla home and away last year. Even hanging on against Celta Vigo with Guidetti missing an open net, to progress to the final

Jake · Dec 12, 2018

If we draw do we win the group - if the Juve score stands

Josep Dowling · Dec 12, 2018

We are the laughing stock of world football every week. Everything the club is doing is wrong and has been the case for 5 years.

How has this glorious club sunk so low and yet nothing changes at the top. A meaningless game this might be but it’s a repeat of all season, they are 16th in La Liga not Manchester City.

Anustart89 · Dec 12, 2018

abdo99 said:
Valencia are 15th in LA Liga. Let that sink in guys

AngliaRed · Dec 12, 2018

Valencia is finished. I’m glad he isn’t anywhere near our PL team. He’s stole a living from us for at least 2 years soley from being athletic. He cant pass, cross, shoot ot tackle!

Adam-Utd · Dec 12, 2018

RedDevil@84 said:
Not a game where we could throw youth in. Difficult circumstances.

How much worse could he do? At least he can run unlike mata

Irrational. · Dec 12, 2018

I'm done with this game.

Off to watch the Apprentice.

I'm out. Laters fellas.

Apokalips · Dec 12, 2018

Camilo said:
We're never beating Valencia in a month of Sundays. This isn't a poor performance, this is a standard United performance.

Sad thing is this is true. It's not unexpected, this is almost par for the course under Jose. We're never going to outplay and really beat any decent side, our aim seems to always be to scrape a 1-0 win due to some Fellaini chaos late on.

2 man midfield · Dec 12, 2018

Why aren’t we committing players forward? I’m baffled by our tactics.

Judas · Dec 12, 2018

Jake said:
If we draw do we go through?

We’re already through.

Walters_19_MuFc · Dec 12, 2018

Mourinho post match - 'Now you see why I dont play these players'.

MooseTheMooche · Dec 12, 2018

Random Task said:
My jaw dropped when he put Fellaini on.

I remember when Fellaini extended his contract and people were saying that he will not be "extensively" used, and will spend most of his time on the bench. Oh, how wrong were they.

Reddy Rederson · Dec 12, 2018

EwanI Ted said:
Its not how football works. Should be perhaps, but it’s not. When they’re unhappy they perform badly, same as pretty much every other human.

Sorry, but what do they have to be unhappy about? The money? The fame? The quality of life? Sorry, the “bad man was mean to me” excuse doesn’t wash.

Jake · Dec 12, 2018

Sorry, I meant win the group

As the juve result stands

Antisocial · Dec 12, 2018

Still ill said:
Name me a worse United European performance.

Olympiacos away under Moyes maybe? Though that might not have been this bad, I’m sure our team was stronger.

bosnian_red · Dec 12, 2018

Still ill said:
No it wasn't. More depressing but not worse than this.

Sevilla away was probably on par but the main difference being De Gea produced some great saves while today we conceded twice. In terms of overall performance/without the finishing, they're about the same I'd say. We've had a ton of awful ones though over the last few years.

UncleBob · Dec 12, 2018

Can we play Fulham every weekend ?

RedNed77 · Dec 12, 2018

Still ill said:
No it wasn't. More depressing but not worse than this.

This means nothing. We just had to beat Sevilla to go through and we played like this, at home too.

Slevs · Dec 12, 2018

Valencia is done.

Smores · Dec 12, 2018

11101 said:
It's pretty obvious the coaching is not working. It's not the players.

yeah they're a great bunch

simplyared · Dec 12, 2018

There's an enormous difference in quality here. Not only that they are playing to a system which is effective when they go forward. We have no system. End of!

Im red2 · Dec 12, 2018

ravi2 said:
After 3 failed managers and numerous failed transfer windows the one common denominator to this is Woodward.

He is good at making money and getting sponsors but complete shit at anything involving football.

Exactly, and the worrying fact is that he is still deciding who we sign or do not sign. He needs major hate from the United faithful.

FerociousCorgis · Dec 12, 2018

MooseTheMooche said:
I remember when Fellaini extended his contract and people were saying that he will not be "extensively" used, and will spend most of his time on the bench. Oh, how wrong were they.

exactly. Or that if pereira would stay and fight for his place he would get plenty of game time.

Jake · Dec 12, 2018

Judas said:
We’re already through.

Sorry I meant win the group

tomaldinho1 · Dec 12, 2018

Pogba on the ball is like slo mo at the moment

DomesticTadpole · Dec 12, 2018

Walters_19_MuFc said:
Mourinho post match - 'Now you see why I dont play these players'.

Yep. Could just see that.

Still ill · Dec 12, 2018

100 said:
To be honest we've had a few contenders. Some of our performances in Europe have been horrendous. Olympiakos away, Wolfsburg away, Sevilla home and away last year. Even hanging on against Celta Vigo with Guidetti missing an open net, to progress to the final

All worthy contenders.

Anustart89 · Dec 12, 2018

Slevs said:
Valencia is done.

They're 2-0 up, mate.

Heyooo!

RMD83 · Dec 12, 2018

The game is over but I’m still on the edge of my seat. Is Juan mata actually going to play 90 minutes?

reddevil702 · Dec 12, 2018

Down 2-0 and we have one player in the box. What a joke!

All 3 United · Dec 12, 2018

AngliaRed said:
Valencia is finished. I’m glad he isn’t anywhere near our PL team. He’s stole a living from us for at least 2 years soley from being athletic. He cant pass, cross, shoot ot tackle!

He will get a new contract with Smalling.

TMDaines · Dec 12, 2018

Well at least we will have seen one decent performance from Valencia this season.

Sassy Colin · Dec 12, 2018

What a wasted opportunity, considering what's happening in the other game.

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