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Sheffield United 3:3 Manchester United

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    A tough game for us, especially with all the injuries we have. We will be lucky to get anything out of this one.
     
    If we win this away fixture, "Ole's at the wheel" song will be legit on repeat again.

    Turning point of the season if we win this.

    Let's hope Martial didn't get called up, they have plenty of forwards.
     
    If we win this away fixture, "Ole's at the wheel" song will be legit on repeat again.

    Turning point of the season if we win this.

    Let's hope Martial didn't get called up, they have plenty of forwards.

    He didn't. Let's hope none of the french forwards get injured and also James /Marcus come back healthy
     
    And yet they lost both games they played with us...

    Also, while granted an early game, still – leading 2:0 at halftime with Sheffield and then letting them score two stupid goals to lose two points for no good reason - not very stable, was that?



    Now, why would they ever do such obviously stupid and suicidal thing? Because they play at home they are obligated to be suicidal? Does Chris Wilder have no clue and can't even figure out what is obvious to all of us – that United is clinical in quick counter-attacks and struggles against a packed defense? Why would they ever open up the game when we have Martial, Rashford, James and crappy midfield? Obviously, they have much better chances sitting back and destroying us in midfield. So - why would they not use such obvious advantage? There is no honor in attacking stupidly and losing foolishly. They will surely expose our weaknesses and won't act suicidal.



    That, plus I really hope nobody else gets injured during the international break :( It's bad enough we lost McT. Imagine if Rashford or James or somebody else gets injured.

    Teams are always more attacking at home, surely you know teams are less likely to just sit in and park the bus at home than they are away?

    They have more shots per game and dribbles per game at home. They attempt more crosses per game at home as well. They have more touches in the opposition third whilst at home.
     
    Can't see us keeping a clean sheet in this one. Another tough away fixture against a phisical team that will fancy their chances against Lindelof. I would take a scrappy 2 1 victory. Until the january transfer window I couldn't care less how we manage to win games as long as we win them somehow.
     
    You are replacing McTominay, with a slow turning cruiseliner?

    What exactly is your reasoning for this? That Phil Jones is big?
    What other midfielders available, offer enough robust physical protection in midfield? in case you haven't noticed Fred is 5'5, so lightweights next to him in Pereira, Mata & Lingard would see us get crushed in midfield. I also don't back that trio to control the game to mitigate it, so our only option is either Jones or Tuanzebe. I would go with Jones as he has past experience playing DM.
     
    Sounds like McT may be available.
    Fingers crossed.
    As much as i would like to believe it, no way is he back for Sheff Utd unfortunately. For him to be back in time, it would be a grade 1 sprain.

    That's minimal ligament damage, mild pain, swelling, and tenderness. Usually no bruising. No joint instability. No difficulty bearing weight. Recovery estimate 1–3 weeks.

    The way he was writhing in agony and couldn't put any weight on his foot at all, the club also confirming he had to have a 2nd scan due to the swelling around his ankle makes me believe it's at least a grade 2 sprain. Those take 3-6 weeks. Even with top doctors, i can't see it.
     
    Sheffield United have gone 60 games without losing by more than one goal. If we did that, especially in our current Jekyll and Hyde form, that'd be quite the result. They've been great this season. Full value for their league position. Only lost to 'Pool by a keeper howler. Came back from 2 down to draw at the Bridge. Dominated Spurs to the point of embarrassment. Swatted aside Everton away. Can't praise Wilder enough so far. Ole will need some special wheeling to get through this one. Should be a good game...

    Very very impressive if true, but as with all records like that once the wheels come off they well and truly come off so i'm changing my prediction to 0-3, or 0-4

    I don't think Dean Henderson will ever be good enough to be United's no.1 but he is a very impressive keeper and he as much as the defenders will have been responsible for their defensive record, but with a PL debutant(Verrips or Moore)coming in....

    The newbie might play a blinder, but it's more likely that with a fast start we can play on his nerves and the uncertainty DH not being there will cause, get an early goal, play to our strengths(counter-attacking at pace) and it could be a walk in the park.
     
    No why, what have I missed?
    Sheffield will be anything but a comfortable win. They've been rather impressive and are fifth in the league and have either the best or second best defense in the league so far. Not the bottom of the table fodder you might expect of a newly promoted side..
     
    As much as i would like to believe it, no way is he back for Sheff Utd unfortunately. For him to be back in time, it would be a grade 1 sprain.

    That's minimal ligament damage, mild pain, swelling, and tenderness. Usually no bruising. No joint instability. No difficulty bearing weight. Recovery estimate 1–3 weeks.

    The way he was writhing in agony and couldn't put any weight on his foot at all, the club also confirming he had to have a 2nd scan due to the swelling around his ankle makes me believe it's at least a grade 2 sprain. Those take 3-6 weeks. Even with top doctors, i can't see it.

    Yeah I did my ankle on the low end of grade two 15 days ago. It's a lot better now but no way I'm running on it yet. Would be a miracle if Scott is back in time.
     
    What we need for this game, is the clean sheet machine:



    I get that Romero is a cup keeper, but that stat is absolutely bonkers.
     
    Sheffield will be anything but a comfortable win. They've been rather impressive and are fifth in the league and have either the best or second best defense in the league so far. Not the bottom of the table fodder you might expect of a newly promoted side..

    Hoping Dean Henderson who is a big part of their defensive organisation will be a big loss for them, and it's not the match to be throwing a Virgin in!
     
    Sheffield will be anything but a comfortable win. They've been rather impressive and are fifth in the league and have either the best or second best defense in the league so far. Not the bottom of the table fodder you might expect of a newly promoted side..
    It helps the defence a lot to have a dependable keeper behind them whom they know and have played with regularly. That keeper and one of their better players will thankfully not be playing.
     
    De Gea
    AWB--Maguire--Rojo--Young
    Lindelof--Fred
    James--Andreas--Rashford
    Martial

    Subs: Romero; Jones, Williams; Garner, Mata, Lingard; Greenwood

    I think it'll be too soon for Matic, Shaw and Axel.​
     
    They are well coached, well set up and will be highly motivated to get one over us after not playing them in years. Not expecting much from this one tbh.
     
    Hoping Dean Henderson who is a big part of their defensive organisation will be a big loss for them, and it's not the match to be throwing a Virgin in!
    It'll be interesting to see how it pans out. I personally don't think their keeper having a blinder is the concern. I'm impressed more with their overall play and think that is what makes it difficult for us. Need Rashford and co to convert the chances they do get
     
    Mctominay, plays I think if we play like we have in last 2 games, we should create chances, taking them is another story.

    Sheffield away is a tough one, there keeper can't play on loan from us, that's a plus. We need a win to get up the table just before the xmas period starts we should hopefully be closer to top 4. Points points points we need. I feel if everyone comes back ok from international, can see a win for us.
     
    De Gea
    AWB--Maguire--Rojo--Young
    Lindelof--Fred
    James--Andreas--Rashford
    Martial

    Subs: Romero; Jones, Williams; Garner, Mata, Lingard; Greenwood

    I think it'll be too soon for Matic, Shaw and Axel.​

    If McTominay misses I would rather we match them with a back three, then have Andreas and Fred in midfield
     
    While they're doing great at the minute. You have to wonder how long a newly promoted team can keep it up.

    Also their home form is worse than their away form so with a full team I'd be confident of a win especially as they'll be missing Henderson.

    If Mc Tominay's out and Pogba's not back we don't have a midfield and I wouldn't be confident of beating anyone.
     


    What kind of lies are these, we have barely created chances this season
     
    It'll be interesting to see how it pans out. I personally don't think their keeper having a blinder is the concern. I'm impressed more with their overall play and think that is what makes it difficult for us. Need Rashford and co to convert the chances they do get

    They're impressive Away but they aren't all that at Home, they did beat Arsenal but they've lost 3 times already including to Southampton!

    We score first we'll win, if they score first it could be a long afternoon.
     
    because a) they cannot defend b) we have more capable full backs available
    And both Williams or AWB don’t have the attributes to play in midfield either. Piss off with the trolling mate
     
    Teams are always more attacking at home, surely you know teams are less likely to just sit in and park the bus at home than they are away?

    They have more shots per game and dribbles per game at home. They attempt more crosses per game at home as well. They have more touches in the opposition third whilst at home.

    Sure, on average all teams, especially ambitious ones, try to attack at home, in front of home fans, but in a specific game coaches try to win with whatever works for that game. Or else - they are quite stupid. I don’t think Sheffield coaches are stupid enough to choose an obviously disadvantageous strategy against United. We have our weaknesses but overall we are much stronger team than Sheffield. If they don’t exploit our weaknesses, we will thrash them. And they know it.
     
    Team should be...

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    ------Lindelof--Maguire--Rojo------
    AWB---Fred---Andreas---Matic--Williams
    --------Rashford-----Martial--------

    Subs: Romero, Jones, Young, Mata, Lingard, James, Greenwood

    Very difficult game, wonder how big an issue it'll be for them missing Henderson in goal?

    Hopefully if McTominay is out Matic is back, he might be half the player McTominay is but it's better than trying someone like Andreas or Lingard alongside Fred in a two (albeit I think we should go 352)
     
    Team should be...

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    ------Lindelof--Maguire--Rojo------
    AWB---Fred---Andreas---Matic--Williams
    --------Rashford-----Martial--------

    Subs: Romero, Jones, Young, Mata, Lingard, James, Greenwood

    Very difficult game, wonder how big an issue it'll be for them missing Henderson in goal?

    Hopefully if McTominay is out Matic is back, he might be half the player McTominay is but it's better than trying someone like Andreas or Lingard alongside Fred in a two (albeit I think we should go 352)
    Yes I would like to see this team play, if McTominay is out. 3-5-2 is the way we should go. better chance on the counter and more packed across midfield.
     
    I don’t think many of us see it as a huge issue with Henderson unable to play. Obviously I’d prefer him to play but for the most part this season he’s had quiet games. It’s so odd seeing that we’ve got Man Utd at home next after so many years of seeing us play the likes of Gillingham not that long ago.
     
    I don’t think many of us see it as a huge issue with Henderson unable to play. Obviously I’d prefer him to play but for the most part this season he’s had quiet games. It’s so odd seeing that we’ve got Man Utd at home next after so many years of seeing us play the likes of Gillingham not that long ago.


    Who is your back up GK and is he any good? No doubt he will end up having the game of his life against us! :lol:

    Your rise has been very impressive under Chris Wilder considering you were a League 1 club not that long ago. Haven't looked out of place at all in the games I've seen you guys play.
     
    Who is your back up GK and is he any good? No doubt he will end up having the game of his life against us! :lol:

    Your rise has been very impressive under Chris Wilder considering you were a League 1 club not that long ago. Haven't looked out of place at all in the games I've seen you guys play.
    Simon Moore is our back up, I doubt he will have the game of his life unfortunately :rolleyes: Wilder has transformed us and it still doesn’t feel real. I’m just hoping he signs a lifetime contract with us now.
     
    You’re the one trolling? If you’re being serious, please explain where you’ve got the idea of AWB or Williams playing in misfiled from?

    Mentality: You clearly can see that they are fighters and won’t hide

    defensive ability: They are both more than capable of protecting the defense since that’s their bread and butter

    pace: they are both mobile and will not be over-run in the midfield

    I feel those are pretty good reasons to play them, given we sorely lack options in that area.
     
    This is a real six-pointer. Win this and we go ahead of Sheff Utd who are currently in 5th place!
     
    Mentality: You clearly can see that they are fighters and won’t hide

    defensive ability: They are both more than capable of protecting the defense since that’s their bread and butter

    pace: they are both mobile and will not be over-run in the midfield

    I feel those are pretty good reasons to play them, given we sorely lack options in that area.

    But defensively ability out wide 1v1 is so much different than the middle of the park, where all your positioning and everything is different.

    Let alone their ability on the ball isn't good enough to play there. Again, the angles are all massively different and time on the ball is massively reduced.
     
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  • Man Utd win
  • Sheffield Utd win
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Detailed Results

  • 23% Sheffield Utd 1:2 Man Utd
  • 17% Sheffield Utd 0:2 Man Utd
  • 16% Sheffield Utd 1:1 Man Utd
  • 7% Sheffield Utd 0:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Sheffield Utd 1:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Sheffield Utd 0:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Sheffield Utd 1:0 Man Utd
  • 5% Sheffield Utd 2:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Sheffield Utd 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Sheffield Utd 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 2:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 0:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:1 Man Utd
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Possession
41% 59%
Shots
12 11
Shots on Target
8 5
Corners
6 3
Fouls
13 10

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Andre Marriner