UEFA Super Cup

Real Madrid 2:1 Manchester United

Philip II Arena, Skopje, Macedonia

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    Probably not wise to put a player with no pre-season behind him against Kroos,Modric etc... Let Herrera, Fellaini Pogba handle them and put Pereira in to make them chase in the 2nd.
     
    Darmian and Blind don't compliment eachother. At all.
    Played well together, good combination in both defending and attacking from our left back side last game against Sampdoria. Just one game so far though.

    Defensively, both players cover each other. Darmian always provides good covering as Blind love to press and tackle hard. Darmian can run up-and-down the left wing all game long with Blind provides the playmaking passes from the back which Darmian lacks. With Blind at LCB he can utilize his trademark long passes. Darmian offers constant immediate width on the left wing with his overlapping runs, and can quickly fall back to help defence with his big stamina and pace, which Blind couldn't. Both also mark opponents well. There is that one occasion last game where Blind interchange position with Darmian, delivering that one good deep cross.

    In theory, their combo in 3-at-the-back formation can work splendidly. One game to prove it so far.
     
    It will be interesting. I will try to watch it if available on French bein sports
     
    Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.

    2003: Milan 1:0 Porto

    As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.

    Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

    Also,
    You have never won the UEFA Super Cup as a coach. What would it mean to win it now?

    Mourinho: Every time I've contested the UEFA Super Cup, it was as the Europa League winners. When I won the Champions League with Porto, I left Porto. When I won the Champions League with Inter, I left Inter. So I've never contested the UEFA Super Cup as the strongest team. It's the same story this time: I'm taking Manchester United to play against Real Madrid, the Champions League winners. Hopefully this time we can do it.
     
    Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.

    2003: Milan 1:0 Porto

    As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.

    Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.

    He has lost 7 Super Cups :nervous:

    2 European Super Cups
    One Italian Super Cup
    One Spanish Super Cup
    3 Community Shields
     
    Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.

    He has lost 7 Super Cups :nervous:

    2 European Super Cups
    One Italian Super Cup
    One Spanish Super Cup
    3 Community Shields

    2 European super cups. 1 with Porto and 1 with Chelsea.
     
    What's Jose's career record in Super Cups? Including domestic ones.

    @Damien

    Domestic:

    2003: Porto 1:0 Uniao de Leiria
    2005: Arsenal 1:2 Chelsea
    2006: Liverpool 2:1 Chelsea
    2007: Chelsea 1:1 Manchester United (0:3 p)
    2008: Inter 2:2 Roma (6:5 p)
    2009: Inter 1:2 Lazio
    2011 (agg): Barcelona 5:4 Real Madrid

    2012 (agg): Barcelona 4:4 Real Madrid (Madrid win on away goals)
    2015: Arsenal 1:0 Chelsea
    2016: Manchester United 2:1 Leicester City

    I know you worked it out for yourself but thought I'd post the results for those interested.

    Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

    Also,
    Ah yeah, forgot about that.
     
    What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.
     
    What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.

    According to Wiki:

    European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
    UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins

    Edit: also, UL??? :p
     
    What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.
    Champions League: 10
    UEFA Cup + Europa League: 7
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    * Pre-2000 = Cup Winners' Cup vs Champions League or European Cup.
     
    According to Wiki:

    European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
    UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins

    Edit: also, UL??? :p
    Meh UEFA League Ueropa League
    Potato Patato :p

    Edit: my fecking fingers won't spell Europa correctly.
     
    Is Ronaldo playing?
    Is he even playing though?

    By the way, is this fixture counted as a competitive match? I think we can win this, Jose Mourinho is the best manager in a one-off cup final although this could be his sternest test as Real Madrid is clearly a much better team than us and they seem to have won every final they've been in recent years, esp under Zidane.
     
    I'm hoping for a Mourinho masterclass. 2-1 to us. Lukaku and Mikhi to score. The only question is whether we play Matic in the starting 11.
     
    If we win this, we've officially done the treble. If we lose, oh well, just a glorified friendly.
     
    Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

    Also,

    And it was that game that marked the beginning of the end of Lukaku's relationship with Jose at Chelsea. He lost the all important penalty and never got over it.

    Are we about to see the flip side of that incidence tomorrow? I.e Lukaku scores and wins it for United to mark a new relationship with Jose at United. :D
     
    DDG
    Lindelof Smalling Blind
    Matic
    Valencia Herrera Pogba Darmian
    Mkhitaryan
    Lukaku
     
    I think if Ronaldo playing he won't be that ready as he missed all their pre season games.
     
    If we win this, we've officially done the treble. If we lose, oh well, just a glorified friendly.
    According to Mourinho, we won 2.5 trophies last season. Assuming this is another half a trophy, I think you could just about call it a treble.
     
    Team I think he will play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Lingard
    Rashford
    Lukaku

    Team I would play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Mkhi
    Rashford
    Lukaku
     
    Team I think he will play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Lingard
    Rashford
    Lukaku

    Team I would play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Mkhi
    Rashford
    Lukaku
    Lukaku and Rashford both starting now against Real Madrid for a trophy might be a stretch. Although I sure hope Mourinho could be that brave.
     
    Team I think he will play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Lingard
    Rashford
    Lukaku

    Team I would play:
    De Gea
    Darmian
    Valencia
    Smalling
    Lindelof
    Matic
    Pogba
    Herrera
    Mkhi
    Rashford
    Lukaku
    Soo Mkhi instead of Lingard then...
     
    Martial will start. Think the right side is between Mkhi and Rashford, most likely with Mkhi getting the nod. Would love Matic to start and play at least 60 minutes so he's more or less ready to go at the start of the season too.
     
    The biggest question is 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. I've went with 4-3-3;

    ........................de Gea
    Valencia .. Lindelof .. Smalling .. Darmian
    ..........................Matic
    ...............Herrera ...... Pogba
    Mkhitaryan .......................... Martial
    .........................Lukaku

    Bailly in for Smalling and I think this is how we will line up v West Ham.
     
    Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?
     
    Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?
    We played it in our last game. Mhiki and Lukaku up top, Pogba, Pereira and Matic in the middle, Darmian and Valencia on the wings and Blind, Lindelöf and Smalling (I think) in defence.
     
    We played it in our last game. Mhiki and Lukaku up top, Pogba, Pereira and Matic in the middle, Darmian and Valencia on the wings and Blind, Lindelöf and Smalling (I think) in defence.

    Ok fair enough. Didn't work that well then!
     
    Doesn't it feel great to be back in games like this? You only play them when you win in Europe. I hope we'll be back in it more regularly in the coming years. Preferably as Champions League winners of course.
     
    Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?
    Yes we have. First pre-season game for both halves. Second half of the game against Valerenga too...
     
    I don't think our team is quite ready yet and Madrid have game changers who can seal things for them. I also don't like our lack of options at CB.

    Hoping for a close game but ultimately I'll be very surprised if we win this.
     
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  • 17% Real Madrid 2:1 Man Utd
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  • 8% Real Madrid 3:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Real Madrid 2:0 Man Utd
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Possession
64% 36%
Shots
16 13
Shots on Target
6 6
Corners
8 2
Fouls
10 17

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Gianluca Rocchi