Probably not wise to put a player with no pre-season behind him against Kroos,Modric etc... Let Herrera, Fellaini Pogba handle them and put Pereira in to make them chase in the 2nd.
UEFA Super Cup
Real Madrid 2:1 Manchester United
Philip II Arena, Skopje, Macedonia
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Played well together, good combination in both defending and attacking from our left back side last game against Sampdoria. Just one game so far though.
Defensively, both players cover each other. Darmian always provides good covering as Blind love to press and tackle hard. Darmian can run up-and-down the left wing all game long with Blind provides the playmaking passes from the back which Darmian lacks. With Blind at LCB he can utilize his trademark long passes. Darmian offers constant immediate width on the left wing with his overlapping runs, and can quickly fall back to help defence with his big stamina and pace, which Blind couldn't. Both also mark opponents well. There is that one occasion last game where Blind interchange position with Darmian, delivering that one good deep cross.
In theory, their combo in 3-at-the-back formation can work splendidly. One game to prove it so far.It will be interesting. I will try to watch it if available on French bein sports2-2. Madrid to lose on penalties
We got this. 2-1 Utd.
Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.
2003: Milan 1:0 Porto
As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.
Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.
Also,
Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.
He has lost 7 Super Cups
2 European Super Cups
One Italian Super Cup
One Spanish Super Cup
3 Community ShieldsMy word this is going to be a bloodbath. Ronnie & co won't know what hit them!Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.
He has lost 7 Super Cups
2 European Super Cups
One Italian Super Cup
One Spanish Super Cup
3 Community Shields
2 European super cups. 1 with Porto and 1 with Chelsea.
Domestic:
2003: Porto 1:0 Uniao de Leiria
2005: Arsenal 1:2 Chelsea
2006: Liverpool 2:1 Chelsea
2007: Chelsea 1:1 Manchester United (0:3 p)
2008: Inter 2:2 Roma (6:5 p)
2009: Inter 1:2 Lazio
2011 (agg): Barcelona 5:4 Real Madrid
2012 (agg): Barcelona 4:4 Real Madrid (Madrid win on away goals)
2015: Arsenal 1:0 Chelsea
2016: Manchester United 2:1 Leicester City
I know you worked it out for yourself but thought I'd post the results for those interested.
Ah yeah, forgot about that.Is Ronaldo playing?What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.
According to Wiki:
European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins
Edit: also, UL???
Champions League: 10
UEFA Cup + Europa League: 7
* Pre-2000 = Cup Winners' Cup vs Champions League or European Cup.
Meh UEFA League Ueropa LeagueAccording to Wiki:
European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins
Edit: also, UL???
Potato Patato
Edit: my fecking fingers won't spell Europa correctly.Will Ronnie be playing? If so we will get twatted if not then im going for penos
Is he even playing though?
By the way, is this fixture counted as a competitive match? I think we can win this, Jose Mourinho is the best manager in a one-off cup final although this could be his sternest test as Real Madrid is clearly a much better team than us and they seem to have won every final they've been in recent years, esp under Zidane.I'm hoping for a Mourinho masterclass. 2-1 to us. Lukaku and Mikhi to score. The only question is whether we play Matic in the starting 11.If we win this, we've officially done the treble. If we lose, oh well, just a glorified friendly.
And it was that game that marked the beginning of the end of Lukaku's relationship with Jose at Chelsea. He lost the all important penalty and never got over it.
Are we about to see the flip side of that incidence tomorrow? I.e Lukaku scores and wins it for United to mark a new relationship with Jose at United.DDG
Lindelof Smalling Blind
Matic
Valencia Herrera Pogba Darmian
Mkhitaryan
Lukaku
Probably not, returned to training yesterday.
Edit: had a look on MARCA, he won't be back for this.Last edited:I think if Ronaldo playing he won't be that ready as he missed all their pre season games.
According to Mourinho, we won 2.5 trophies last season. Assuming this is another half a trophy, I think you could just about call it a treble.Team I think he will play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku
Team I would play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Mkhi
Rashford
Lukaku
Lukaku and Rashford both starting now against Real Madrid for a trophy might be a stretch. Although I sure hope Mourinho could be that brave.
Soo Mkhi instead of Lingard then...Martial will start. Think the right side is between Mkhi and Rashford, most likely with Mkhi getting the nod. Would love Matic to start and play at least 60 minutes so he's more or less ready to go at the start of the season too.The biggest question is 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. I've went with 4-3-3;
........................de Gea
Valencia .. Lindelof .. Smalling .. Darmian
..........................Matic
...............Herrera ...... Pogba
Mkhitaryan .......................... Martial
.........................Lukaku
Bailly in for Smalling and I think this is how we will line up v West Ham.Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?
We played it in our last game. Mhiki and Lukaku up top, Pogba, Pereira and Matic in the middle, Darmian and Valencia on the wings and Blind, Lindelöf and Smalling (I think) in defence.
Ok fair enough. Didn't work that well then!Don't know why this isn't on ITV or something. Not that I'm complaining, I have BT anyway.Doesn't it feel great to be back in games like this? You only play them when you win in Europe. I hope we'll be back in it more regularly in the coming years. Preferably as Champions League winners of course.
Yes we have. First pre-season game for both halves. Second half of the game against Valerenga too...
It did work well.I don't think our team is quite ready yet and Madrid have game changers who can seal things for them. I also don't like our lack of options at CB.
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Man of the Match
Runners-up
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12%
Marouane Fellaini
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11%
David de Gea
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4%
Chris Smalling
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3%
Antonio Valencia
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3%
Romelu Lukaku
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2%
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
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2%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Paul Pogba
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1%
Matteo Darmian
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1%
Victor Lindelof
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 623 ratings.
Score Predictions
402,320,133
- Man Utd win
- Real Madrid win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 30% Real Madrid 1:2 Man Utd
- 17% Real Madrid 2:1 Man Utd
- 9% Real Madrid 1:1 Man Utd
- 8% Real Madrid 3:1 Man Utd
- 6% Real Madrid 2:0 Man Utd
- 5% Real Madrid 2:2 Man Utd
- 4% Real Madrid 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Real Madrid 2:3 Man Utd
- 4% Real Madrid 1:3 Man Utd
- 3% Real Madrid 0:2 Man Utd
- 2% Real Madrid 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Real Madrid 3:0 Man Utd
- 2% Real Madrid 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Real Madrid 3:2 Man Utd
- 1% Real Madrid 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Real Madrid 0:3 Man Utd
- 1% Real Madrid 4:1 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 4:3 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Real Madrid 3:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Real Madrid
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 64% 36%
- Shots
- 16 13
- Shots on Target
- 6 6
- Corners
- 8 2
- Fouls
- 10 17
Referee
Gianluca Rocchi
Man Utd Lineup
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