Cavanis movement and attitude were good but he was rusty which was to be expected. Still better than the rest of our attackers
FA Premier League
Newcastle United 1:1 Manchester United
St. James' Park
- Kick-off
- Mon, 27 December 2021 @ 8:00pm GMT
- Status
-
Closed
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
-
- Status
Ole is a useless coach. Please dont compare his chops to Rangnick. Honestly, dont even go there.
We did have Greenwood and Rashford in very unfamiliar positions though - thought he got the set-up wrong from the start
Well we've got issues then. We are in a no win situation. Whatever we do, whether it's playing them or not playing them, they'll just be shite for whatever reason.
This is what Gary neville is saying. Ronaldo seems to have caused some issues in the dressing room
Too early to say but I rate Conte higher than Rangnick who hasn't managed in a while. Spurs played well against Pool while we stutter against Norwich and Newcastle. Ole had a much better start
Theyre learning new roles. For what its worth I agree this system doesn't suit us. I reckon Rangnick doesnt see it as a long term solution either but he probably saw it the best way to fix us up defensively.
It might be because he is one of the top 3 managers in world football and we could have hired him, whereas we have no chance of getting guardiola or klopp
I agree, I wanted Ole gone long ago, last season. But what have we seen so far to back up your point? I don't care about the past, it's all about here and now. We don't look like scoring, that's worrying. Top 4 is looking more and more unlikely for me, we left Ole far too long and RR hasn't hit the ground running like we hoped. Are we writing this season off?
What do you mean so far? Its 3 fecking games. Anyone looking to see immediate impact is asking for too much. But id take 2 wins 1 draw and only 1 conceded while we get to where we want.
Sorry but that's nonsense if you stick every within a 10 metre square if the pitch they are obviously going to find it harder to pass the ball. Also if you ask mcfred to try and thread tricky through balls that is obviously going to be an issue
Of course they did - but no excuse for lack of fitness - which I don’t believe as the cause of tonight. The shape was wrong, players not in their natural positions, the whole formation was wrong. That and complacency, seemed to me they just had to turn up and win. This squad is good enough, but not the team out there tonight. No wonder DVB, Lingard, Martial want outBruno has gone to the dogs as well. Shockingly out of form.
He's only here for 6 months, time is not on his side. Those 2 wins were not great wins, a pen and a great shot from Fred. We don't create enough chances to win games with ease and we're not keeping clean sheets against teams that have decent attack, like Newcastle today.
I will get behind him, but we need to something from him. Now that most of the players are fit, lets see the teams he selects.
We had an interim interim manager, now we have an interim manager who will move upstairs in the summer
the answer to this question is obvious, surely?
Decent I'd say, especially compared to our last game. Problem was Newcastle came with the fire we were hoping to see. That energy of ours pretty much disappeared in the second half anyway.
Doesn’t matter how long he is here, we won’t do anything without proper centre midfielders
Pep would do nothing with Fred Mctom and matic as his choice
Teams can just mark the obvious threat from our 2 wide players and then let Fred and Mctom mess up the rest
Please don't bring Pep into this, Pep would find a way around the issue. That's what the best managers do, they find a way to hide the teams shortcomings.
Tonight was not just on the midfield by the way, it's the whole team, besides DDG. When everyone is poor, I look further than the players.
Mate our midfielders are average at best, you can’t control a game with them, we always had a great midfielder in our team.
Now we haven’t even got a player that would start for villa
Former management is to blame here for not sorting it out and the board
Looking back on the game as a whole now, I would agree. I made that comment at half time where I felt we did some things off the ball that we didn't against Norwich and forced some turnovers in possession. Didn't happen as much in the second half so was pretty inconsequential in the end.
Maybe the case against the best teams, but Newcastle have won 2 games all year, that excuse doesn't wash.
Agree about Ole being a massive issue, wasted years and money. But that doesn't hide RR's shortcomings so far, you have to work with what you have.Which word does Gary Nev say hundreds of times every time he is on MNF?
Meanwhile, Fred makes me sad.
I had to put the game on pause at half time and only just finished watching (3 hours after kickoff), and if Maguire doesn’t have another 10 pages of hate mail I will be shocked and disappointed.Last edited:
Right and it’s his like 4th game? Changing tactics in players another manager built
And he’s only a short term manager until the summer
In shit weather against a team treating it like a cup final
Shit happens, I think you need to adjust your expectations for the season, it’s a write off
How can you write off a season this early? With this squad, we should be getting top 4. If we don't then that's on Ole and Rangnick.That was some ugly shit.
Varane and Maguire both were abject. If Maguire were any slower he’d be a literal statue. It’s not only his “running” that is slow, it’s his speed of thought, his decision making, it’s so labored and obvious. Newcastle had him completely worked out today. I honestly don’t see what people rate him for, he’s average at best.
Shaw needs to play.
We need at least two central mids.
Bruno does better further back.
Ronaldo was a luxury passenger today.
Rashford, dear lord, what has happened to him? Are we seriously saying a youth player wouldn’t do at least as much as Rashford did today? He is so far out of form I don’t know what can be done.
DeGea MOTM.Last edited:
telles has played 3-4 games in a row now, He’s not getting any better and shaw has a much higher level.
You sort of make my point though, why is Shaw in jail when those 2 are even worse every week?
I disagree massively.
We looked disjointed and rusty, passing was particularly sloppy, and we faded as the game hit the 80 minute mark.
All signs of lack of match sharpness.
ah fair enough. Hope we get some energy fast!!!!Rashford continues to top the leader board as the worst player, in the Caf’s post match ratings.
He won the title last season and is well on course to repeat the title this season.
Pressing. Not having sideways passing and try to pass forward to reach the opposition goal in about 8 seconds? There were attempts to implement this, but when we started losing the ball very often, I think the team started to lose confidence. The number of turnovers was stunning. But this is also an attempt to play to the new system.
It really pains me as my namesake, but he really is one-dimensional. He has no ability save to run past defenders using his speed. I am really disappointed because I thought his loss of form over the recent years was due to playing with an injury. That excuse is no longer there as he has resolved that issue.
Car with my kids and nephews (I mean adults)
Rang I know needs to drop the useless players. First one that gave been in his regular XI us Marcus Rashford. Be waits for the so often and his ousting has been terrible. He might have had one eye in the next match, but Sancho and Cavani need to start. He probably should give Donny a go as well.Too early to say but I rate Conte higher than Rangnick who hasn't managed in a while. Spurs played well against Pool while we stutter against Norwich and Newcastle. Ole had a much better start
I think that he already answered that question in an indirect way. Rangnick likes to bring in players on their 1st-2nd contracts. These are players who are hungry for success, they would listen and has the legwork needed to succeed in his system. He is not interested in players lining for their final pay cheques or known quality. That's pretty much in line to the true United way, you know, the one SAF brought and actually won trophies.
Pellistri is on loan while Diallo was injured for a long time. You're ignoring 3 factors here
A- This is not Rangnick team. It was expensively built by an amateur who spent 415m on it, he never bothered coaching it, he won nothing with it and fecked off on a holiday in the middle of a crisis. Its evident that its terribly unbalanced, its lazy and quite frankly it has too many players who are heading towards the latter part of their careers. Three factors Rangnick hates.
B- Politics plays a huge part of football. Knock 3-4 senior players out of the first team and the manager would have a revolt in his hands so he'll have to move slowly and wisely.
C- Rangnick has inherited this crap in the middle of the season. He had no preseason training, they haven't been properly coached for years and to make matters worse they were hit by covid now.
Rangnick is already making some steps to the right directions.
a- he had already replaced the fullbacks with modern fullbacks who can actually attack
b- he'll probably get rid of some of the prima donnas Ole left behind. This huge squad is simply unsustainable.
c- he'll probably add a CM or two
This lazy side with most players having low football IQ would struggle in gegenpressing. Its a shame we spent 415m to build it. Imagine if we let someone with experience doing that.Last edited:
Because the centre of the pitch isn’t good enough, absolutely not top 4 material and the attitude of the players isn’t good enough
They don’t look up for the fight for top 4Shocking performance, worst this season, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because they haven't played for 16 days.
If the next game is laboured like this one its just a fecking mess again.
Rashford ball was slowed down everytime he got it, he didn't even try to take someone on. Maguire and Varane were error prone. Dalot and Telles static nothing going forward no width at all. Fred and Mctom that's enough said. Ronny no balls to feed off when he did snatched at most . No control of the game no idea of how they were set up . And again easy to pick off on counter attack. Nothing has changed . The first half against Palace was it .Most of the team is mentally too slow, they need to much time to figure out where to pass and even if they see the hole, they prefer the save and easy pass. Combined with the fact that this team is just not able to move, it is hard to watch.
Ralf has the problem he has not enough time to train how to move, pass as a modern team- Status
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 298 ratings.
Score Predictions
177,10,6
- Man Utd win
- Newcastle win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 26% Newcastle 0:3 Man Utd
- 21% Newcastle 0:2 Man Utd
- 13% Newcastle 1:3 Man Utd
- 12% Newcastle 1:2 Man Utd
- 5% Newcastle 0:4 Man Utd
- 4% Newcastle 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Newcastle 0:5 Man Utd
- 3% Newcastle 1:1 Man Utd
- 3% Newcastle 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 2:5 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 1:5 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 4:0 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 2:1 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Newcastle
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 30% 70%
- Shots
- 13 13
- Shots on Target
- 8 4
- Corners
- 2 4
- Fouls
- 11 8
Referee
Craig Pawson
Man Utd Lineup
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
replaced by Jadon Sancho
-
replaced by Nemanja Matic
-
-
-
replaced by Edinson Cavani
