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Newcastle United 1:4 Manchester United

St. James' Park

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    Not sure about this lineup at all.

    Hopefully Mata can link up well with Fernandes but I can see James getting hooked at halftime if he keeps going the way he has been.

    Strange Greenwood didn't make the bench. Is he injured?

    Looks like he's keeping some players back for Tuesday tbh.
     
    Pardon me but I have to laugh at that, midweek CL game in mind when we have looked so horrible in the league? :wenger:
    Yeah we've been shite in the league so what do you want Ole to do? Stick with the same tactics as he has so far?
     
    You expected Ole to completely change our formation with 2 days of training?
    Each an every "expert" over here pretends that he dictates team selection.
    If not, he ll start slagging off team selection.
    If we lose they ll say they were right
    If we win, they ll say we were lucky

    Caftards over here always right...
     
    Christ what a waste of a signing van der beek has been with no place in the starting 11 once again despite neither pogba or matic playing
     
    I agree with this. With the circumstances of Martial, Cavani and Greenwood unavailable, Pogba in poor form and Telles a new signing who only started training on Thursday with us going to Newcastle on the Friday, that team is close to the best we can currently field unfortunately. Rather this than persisting with Pogba.
    Makes the decision to buy Van de Beek and not go all out for Sancho even more ridiculous. We have absolutely feck all on the wings. Zero quality.
     
    Yeah we've been shite in the league so what do you want Ole to do? Stick with the same tactics as he has so far?

    100% sure the tactics will be exactly the same. Its just the lineup thats different. So less talented players trying to carry them out
     
    Christ what a waste of a signing van der beek has been with no place in the starting 11 once again despite neither pogba or matic playing
    4 games in and we are already calling it a wasted signing
     
    Not sure about this lineup at all.

    Hopefully Mata can link up well with Fernandes but I can see James getting hooked at halftime if he keeps going the way he has been.

    Strange Greenwood didn't make the bench. Is he injured?

    Looks like he's keeping some players back for Tuesday tbh
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    Given how bad the so called 1st choice was, maybe this lot can actually go out and play for the shirt.

    And you answered your own question
     
    Why sign Sancho when you can play Daniel James and send all the money you saved to Tampa via dividends.
     
    Christ what a waste of a signing van der beek has been with no place in the starting 11 once again despite neither pogba or matic playing
    A bit strange this isn’t it. I’d have him in over James or Mata.

    Seems Ole sees him only as rotation for Bruno.
     
    If VDB is playing it has to be for Fred or McT. He is not playing a wide winger, be it on the left or right
     
    We've lost the midfield battle against everyone we've come up against this season in the PL. Hopefully, the introduction of Fred and McTominay, who were both fantastic for large parts of the year last season will bring that much-needed urgency and dynamism to our midfield.

    As for people calling for VDB to start, it's clear Ole sees him as a 10. Maybe as a roaming winger. He's not better than Bruno and Mata has stolen the headlines every time both of them have lined up together in the Carabao, therefore the inclusion of Mata over VDB makes sense.
     
    As soon as two of our starting attackers are out we, the drop in quality is staggering. Pressure on Rashford and Bruno to get us goals because nobody else in that lineup is going to do it. This just highlights our stupidity in not bringing in Cavani sooner. Although, I think it's rather stupid not to play Ighalo today. Games like today is the reason we brought him in.
     
    Normal cafe rule is the more a lineup looks woeful the better we do right?

    Hope so.

    if Van Beek can't even get a look in when Pogba is benched, and there's no Martial or Greenwood, it makes his signing look even odder.

    Where is Greenwood?!
     
    Those that charge 15 quid for people to watch this team tonight should be charged with fraud as that isn´t even a remotely fair pricing. It´s really sad that for a club of this size that is the line up for a league match. This club deserves to fail for being completely inept at running the football side of the club.
     
    100% sure the tactics will be exactly the same. Its just the lineup thats different. So less talented players trying to carry them out
    Based on the line-up he's switched from a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1. 2 defensive midfielders in central midfield versus the 1 that we've started with so far.
     
    Makes the decision to buy Van de Beek and not go all out for Sancho even more ridiculous. We have absolutely feck all on the wings. Zero quality.
    For sure, I'd rather us have gone all out for Sancho but it is what it is. Complaints of playing James and Mata but there's literally no alternative unless you want to see Lingard back.
    Where is Greenwood?!
    Obviously injured.
     
    We've lost the midfield battle against everyone we've come up against this season in the PL. Hopefully, the introduction of Fred and McTominay, who were both fantastic for large parts of the year last season will bring that much-needed urgency and dynamism to our midfield.
    Am I dreaming that we played them together this season and got s**t output in that game?
     
    Normal cafe rule is the more a lineup looks woeful the better we do right?

    No, that's a myth that got debunked long time ago. Look in the matchday threads when the Cafe was unhappy about the line-up. We lost most of these matches.
     
    The line up is so shit that there is unfair criticism that is bound to be directed at the players.

    The manager has no clue, no tactics, and no plan. We love you Ole but time is up
     
    OGS pre match - “ we need to stop them
    Playing, they have players who can hurt us”

    Newcastle FFS!!! Totally out of his depth and tactically done!
     
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Score Predictions

173,101,55
  • Man Utd win
  • Newcastle win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 22% Newcastle 1:2 Man Utd
  • 12% Newcastle 0:2 Man Utd
  • 9% Newcastle 2:1 Man Utd
  • 9% Newcastle 1:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Newcastle 1:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Newcastle 2:2 Man Utd
  • 4% Newcastle 3:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 3:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 5:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 2:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 2:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 5:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 3:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 4:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 4:3 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Newcastle
  2. Man Utd
Possession
36% 64%
Shots
7 28
Shots on Target
4 14
Corners
0 7
Fouls
9 12

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Craig Pawson