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Newcastle United 1:0 Manchester United

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    It’s must win but I can’t see it happening. Lose and Ole won’t be sacked but given the run of games that follow he’ll be close to point of no return.

    The narrative will really start to change if we don’t win, the statistics and position in table will all start to start pushing the club towards sacking him.
     
    De Gea
    Young Lindelof Maguire Tuanzebe
    McTominay Fred
    James Pogba Rashford
    Greenwood​

    Not sure if everyone here is fit. Think so. 1-0 win?
     
    0-0

    I really wanted Olé to do well. A small unconvincing part of me still thinks that he may do given time. But this is awful.

    Lose here and the first serious questions will be asked about Olé
     
    Newcastle will win, we drop into the relegation zone but still back Ole
     
    starman said:
    DDG
    AWB Lindelof Maguire Young
    Dalot Pereira Mctominay
    Greenwood Rashford James​
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    fecking hell.

    For real that is a relegation level side. If that team played 38 games they’d be in trouble. Nothing against you, I realise we have injuries and the squad is in the shit but seeing that on paper is scary.
     
    Castia said:
    fecking hell.

    For real that is a relegation level side. If that team played 38 games they’d be in trouble. Nothing against you, I realise we have injuries and the squad is in the shit but seeing that on paper is scary.
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    Take out Pereira for Pogba, Martial for Rashford and Young for Shaw, its probably the best and most balanced team, imo. I really want to see Dalot in midfield, regardless of injuries
     
    De Gea
    AWB--Lindelof--Maguire--Young
    McTominay--Pereira
    Greenwood--Pogba--James
    Rashford​
     
    The Newcastle fans will be well up for this...this is their biggest match of the season. I always think we will win but with not an ounce of creativity, desire or class...I really think we will be out-thought, outwitted, outfought and outclassed...by Big Stevie B. feck.
     
    Hayden is suspended so that’s one positive at least.

    DDG
    Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Young
    McTomminay Pogba
    Rashford Pereira James
    Greenwood
     
    Gotta change formation. We currently don't have a use for wingers and need more bodies in midfield. So have two players behind Rashford with the option on drifting wide but naturally trying to link the midfield to Rashford. Plus if Rashford drops deep they can break forward (thinking James here with Gomes possibly picking out his run) I'd deffo love to see the maguire-tuanzabe partnership tried out.

    Rashford​

    James Gomes​

    Fred Matic Mctominay​

    Young Maguire Tuanzabe Dalot​

    De Gea​
     
    I can see us losing this one. This Newcastle team has some players that can hurt us.
     
    Red00012 said:
    Name suits . Bigger chance of me getting a game Sunday than him getting sacked.
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    Our next games are Liverpool at home and then 3 away games. No way ( even with Ed in charge) that he will allow him to save his job on those games. It will be win or sack on sunday
     
    jackal&hyde said:
    Imperative that we win.
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    We haven't won away for 6 months and we don't look like scoring more than 1 goal a game in average.

    Good chance Pogba and Martial are still out too.

    A draw at best. I expect us to lose though even against an awful Newcastle side. If we don't win this one it's time to let Ole go.
     
    Nou_Camp99 said:
    We haven't won away for 6 months and we don't look like scoring more than 1 goal a game in average.

    Good chance Pogba and Martial are still out too.

    A draw at best. I expect us to lose though even against an awful Newcastle side. If we don't win this one it's time to let Ole go.
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    And replace him with whom? No, he has to stay till the end of the season and then we decide if the rebuilding has legs or not.
     
    jackal&hyde said:
    And replace him with whom? No, he has to stay till the end of the season and then we decide if the rebuilding has legs or not.
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    What is up with this phrase? There are dozens and dozens managers on the market. Most of them much better than Ole( based on their careers). 99% of them will come if club big and rich as Man Utd come for them.
    Klopp, Pep and couple of others are out of reach. Others...we just need to pick one
     
    No doubt in my mind that we'll lose this; the only question is will it be 1-0 without us having a shot on target or will we make Newcastle look like the Scousers and get thumped (I have an awful feeling it might be the latter). Hint: it isn't fecking working Ole -- whatever it is
     
    Watch our inept midfield make Shelvey and Longstaff look like Xavi and Iniesta.
     
    Andycoleno9 said:
    What is up with this phrase? There are dozens and dozens managers on the market. Most of them much better than Ole( based on their careers). 99% of them will come if club big and rich as Man Utd come for them.
    Klopp, Pep and couple of others are out of reach. Others...we just need to pick one
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    I’m going to need names here.

    We can’t even poach the Spurs manager at this point.

    OgS can be bettered but who would risk their reputation by joining this s*** show 2/3 months into a season.

    Klopp was out of work; unless Allegri would have the same impact; which I doubt, we’d have to go all out mid-season for a manager & we can barely complete 3 transfers in a summer.

    OgS must go, but him being this bad really puts us in the worst of positions.

    OgS shouldn’t have been extended & the new manager should have been in situ months ago, now would be a terrible time to ask someone to come in
     
    mitchmouse said:
    frankly, I 'd almost take Moyes :lol::lol: but seriously how about Allegri?
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    He's a pragmatic manager. Do we want to have a certain philosophy and continuity with that philosophy or chop and change styles and players every year when it's not working? We tried this and it doesn't work with United even when those managers were PL "proven" or world class like LVG and Mourinho. We need a clear structure and philosophy of play imo before discussing managers.

    Also, i don't see the general play being any worse then it was under Mourinho or LVG. That should tell us something more about the players rather then a manager's experience or quality.
     
    Brucie always loses against us.

    Let's see if that changes. If it does we're beyond trouble.
     
    Surely with injuries etc we need to move Young back to RW?

    Have AWB with Young ahead, Williams on the left with James ahead...
     
    AFC NimbleThumb said:
    I’m going to need names here.

    We can’t even poach the Spurs manager at this point.

    OgS can be bettered but who would risk their reputation by joining this s*** show 2/3 months into a season.

    Klopp was out of work; unless Allegri would have the same impact; which I doubt, we’d have to go all out mid-season for a manager & we can barely complete 3 transfers in a summer.

    OgS must go, but him being this bad really puts us in the worst of positions.

    OgS shouldn’t have been extended & the new manager should have been in situ months ago, now would be a terrible time to ask someone to come in
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    https://www.redcafe.net/threads/united’s-next-manager.450443/page-21
    Here is your reply. My post with names is there
     
    Andycoleno9 said:
    https://www.redcafe.net/threads/united’s-next-manager.450443/page-21
    Here is your reply
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    Thanks for a wishlist of managers that pretty much every fan would list but “99%” of that list isn’t coming to United if we sack OgS today.

    Allegri, is out of work so you would assume is immediately gettable but I was asking for a list of the 99% you mentioned. 5 of your 6 are in contracts & we struggle to negotiate transfers for Swansea teenagers.

    We agree that OgS shouldn’t be in charge, the men you’ve listed should be in consideration as his replacements but I doubt we’d be able to choose from the managers you’ve listed.
     
    AFC NimbleThumb said:
    Thanks for a wishlist of managers that pretty much every fan would list but “99%” of that list isn’t coming to United if we sack OgS today.

    Allegri, is out of work so you would assume is immediately gettable but I was asking for a list of the 99% you mentioned. 5 of your 6 are in contracts & we struggle to negotiate transfers for Swansea teenagers.

    We agree that OgS shouldn’t be in charge, the men you’ve listed should be in consideration as his replacements but I doubt we’d be able to choose from the managers you’ve listed.
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    Except Tuchel they all would come certainly. You want to say that Nagelsmann or Howe would reject Man Utd? You think that clubs would keep them on force? Come on...

    About 99%; you can just pick any manager and hire him. My point was that there are managers out there. A lot of them. Would all of they be good solution? I don't know but certainly they would be better than Ole. Most of current PL managers would be better choice than him.
     
    Andycoleno9 said:
    Our next games are Liverpool at home and then 3 away games. No way ( even with Ed in charge) that he will allow him to save his job on those games. It will be win or sack on sunday
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    Delusional to even think that, there’s no hint of him getting sacked.
     
    jackal&hyde said:
    He's a pragmatic manager. Do we want to have a certain philosophy and continuity with that philosophy or chop and change styles and players every year when it's not working? We tried this and it doesn't work with United even when those managers were PL "proven" or world class like LVG and Mourinho. We need a clear structure and philosophy of play imo before discussing managers.

    Also, i don't see the general play being any worse then it was under Mourinho or LVG. That should tell us something more about the players rather then a manager's experience or quality.
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    and yet everyone here clamoured for Jose's removal. I know what you are saying but if it isn't working, it isn't working and it's clear that Ole hasn't got a back-up plan
     
    passing-wind said:
    Then you best get fit mate because it's just as likely he'll be sacked pending a loss at Newcastle
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    But it’s not likely. Maybe you just want him sacked but even if we lose he’ll be still be sat on the bench Sunday week.
     
    mitchmouse said:
    and yet everyone here clamoured for Jose's removal. I know what you are saying but if it isn't working, it isn't working and it's clear that Ole hasn't got a back-up plan
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    I understand what you are saying and my point i suppose is that i'm not saying that Ole is going to be a world class manager but rather that any other manager in the game would not be able to make our mid or attack better with the players that we have; that is why i mentioned Mourinho and LVG. We all called Moyes out of his depth, LVG past it, Mourinho past it and now Ole sh3te. Maybe all of that is true, or maybe we need new players and not expect miracles from some SAF like genius.

    We will all agree that Klopp is a much better manager then Ole, and yet he finished 8th in his first season and was given time and the players he wanted; after a couple of seasons we see the results. Is it fair to expect Ole to do better in his first full season then an established WC manager? I don't think it is. I first want to see new players in for our mid and attack before i can make a judgment on the current manager or any other.

    We have to accept that regardless of the manager, it is going to take about 3 years of consistent training in one philosophy and a lot of work in replacing most of the senior players in the squad while waiting for the younger ones to mature. If we don't have this patience, we will be exactly like Liverpool before Klopp, before they allowed a project to be brought to fruition.
     
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    jackal&hyde said:
    I understand what you are saying and my point i suppose is that i'm not saying that Ole is going to be a world class manager but rather that any other manager in the game would not be able to make our mid or attack better with the players that we have; that is why i mentioned Mourinho and LVG. We all called Moyes out of his depth, LVG past it, Mourinho past it and now Ole sh3te. Maybe all of that is true, or maybe we need new players and not expect miracles from some SAF like genius.

    We will all agree that Klopp is a much better manager then Ole, and yet he finished 8th in his first season and was given time and the players he wanted; after a couple of seasons we see the results. Is it fair to expect Ole to do better in his first full season then an established WC manager? I don't think it is. I first want to see new players in for our mid and attack before i can make a judgment on the current manager.
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    Agreed. Which is why I've said her twice that there is no way I'm calling for Ole's head. But I have also said that come the end of the season, he will quit given that he' a hugely decent guy. What angers me is he should never have been given the job in the first place. The board said they'd wait til the end of the season and yet they jumped the gun. Which means a club legend will get the blame and (to some extent) his legendary status at the club will be harmed. Picking former club legends as manager failed at Liverpool, Leeds and Newcastle (to name but a few) and the arrogant board thought they new better
     
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