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Middlesbrough 1:3 Manchester United

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Sun, 19 March 2017 @ 12:00pm GMT
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    Chill . We are not playing like this when fresh

    What the?

    So because, we're tired (A problem who is there because Mourinho only use the same players in ALL tournament and thereby a trouble he has self caused), we should just threw every standard, this mighty club has for three points?

    It's beyond me, that Mourinho can think about doing this.
     
    That smalling error for the goal is incredible.

    So clumsy

    One of my pet peeves. He obviously wanted to play it with his right foot. ie avoid his left foot I don't know why there are so many players who can't function with both feet. They all come through professional academies and yet I don't see too many players who can function well with both feet. For all the 'notes' and 'write up plans' these academy coaches do, they produce a lot of one footed players. We should expect more from professional players.
     
    Jesus some of you guys are fecking dire, lighten up a bit

    Great win. Happy with that
     
    What the?

    So because, we're tired (A problem who is there because Mourinho only use the same players in ALL tournament and thereby a trouble he has self caused), we should just threw every standard, this mighty club has for three points?

    It's beyond me, that Mourinho can think about doing this.

    What is the point in hiring managers if they have to conform to playing a set way? Why not just have the CEO run the matches?

    If Mourinho wants to set up defensively then so be it, he is the manager.
     
    For half a second there I wasn't sure Valencia was going to score. It looked like he would wood leg it over the line with that first touch but he managed to pull back. Idiot.

    Yeah, idiotic from Valencia - failing to score in your imagination. Maybe you could give him an imaginary bollocking and fine him an imaginary week's wages.
     
    What the?

    So because, we're tired (A problem who is there because Mourinho only use the same players in ALL tournament and thereby a trouble he has self caused), we should just threw every standard, this mighty club has for three points?

    It's beyond me, that Mourinho can think about doing this.
    Yes, unthinkable that he dos anything he can to get 3 points , how dare he.
    Get a grip.
     
    Tunnel bust-up
    Might’ve been over Gestede and Bailly.

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    only redcafe match threads can complain about 0-0, 25 shot draws and then whinge about 3-1 defensive win.

    There is no "right" position on this thread. Everything we do is shit according to someone.
     
    Guys spare a thought for Valdés. This is going to be replayed again and again. It will go into YouTube compilations of the worst GK errors. It was really unfortunate and the guy will have to live with it for a very long time, possibly the rest of his career. I really feel for professional athletes when they get unlucky like this. He was embarrassed and humiliated, made to look like a clown. Very unfortunate incident.
     
    The crosses came in because the Boro team finally stopped passing it around and started kicking it long. Every team does that in the dying minutes. Don't need the opposition to drop back in order to hoof the ball in from half way line.

    We can't do this in big games because the big teams will havr far more ammunition at disposal than just lumping the ball in penalty area. Don't this Mourinho will go for it in such games.
    I think if we pressed they would have rather passed sidewards or loose the ball too . Okay no worries 3 points were most imp today.
     
    Totally ridiculous to play 6 at the back whatever the result, but Mou did play it well tactically in general so let him off.
     
    Bullshit. You are seeing the result and us scoring a goal and reacting to that. Whatever the result it does not justify making the game into their attack vs our defense.

    That towards the last 15 mins was pathetic in my opinion. Just because you have more defenders doesn't mean you are more secure. Just invited them to put balls in...in the end that's how they scored. That goal is entirely due to us changing the pattern of play by taking Mata off and putting Rojo on.

    I guess we will never know then unless we go back in time and keep Mata on or bring on a positive sub. Also the goal wouldn't have come had Smalling hadn't had a brainfart and tried to clear the ball with his right food when he could have easily done with his left. Now you're gonna say the ball wouldn't have come in had we not brought a defender on. And no one can argue with a logic like that. Just saying that the sub would have brought us a clean sheet had Smalling not messed up. We were surely nt going to keep a clean sheet with Mata on.
     
    What the?

    So because, we're tired (A problem who is there because Mourinho only use the same players in ALL tournament and thereby a trouble he has self caused), we should just threw every standard, this mighty club has for three points?

    It's beyond me, that Mourinho can think about doing this.
    What the actual feck are you talking about you massive drama queen?
     
    What is the point in hiring managers if they have to conform to playing a set way? Why not just have the CEO run the matches?

    If Mourinho wants to set up defensively then so be it, he is the manager.

    Because that is not the spirit of Manchester United. We shouldn't be a pragmatic club because Mourinho is a coward and a pragmatic human being.

    Like I said. I could accept if it was the 2nd leg of the semi finals of Champions League, and we were 10 minutes from getting into the final and we were playing at Allianz Arena, Santiago Bernabeu or Camp Nou. Then I could understand it, but this .... Against M'Boro? As team who barely can score a goal and in bad shape and form? I mean, how on earth can this even be possible to do?
     
    Even if you don't plan to attack anymore, you don't want every single clearance to come straight back, certainly not with 20+ minutes to go. You need bodies in front of the defence to accomplish that. And seriously, do we really need 4 nominally central defenders on the pitch to negate the attacking threat of Middlesbrough?
    You don't but I don't think the reason for that was us sitting back, but them inevitably throwing everything forward and attacking us in the final 30 anyway. Especially with this team today, we didn't have the players to play possession game, more to counterattack.

    I get where you're coming from and it's a valid concern but I'm a fan of Mourinhos defensive tactics when needed. I would rather playing it safe than risking anything. If having 4 CB is what's needed to do that then so be it.

    Imo, it's more difficult to score another goal than not to concede one.
     
    As soon as Mata came off and he brought a defender on the entire game changed, and not for the better. We invited pressure and inevitably conceded. Not sure how anyone could back that substitution after those last 20 minutes against a side who hadn't scored in over 8 hours.
    You are right. That is the perfect time to bring a defensive midfielder to kill the game, but we didn't have any midfielders in the bench. Only defenders and wingers.
     
    Guys spare a thought for Valdés. This is going to be replayed again and again. It will go into YouTube compilations of the worst GK errors. It was really unfortunate and the guy will have to live with it for a very long time, possibly the rest of his career. I really feel for professional athletes when they get unlucky like this. He was embarrassed and humiliated, made to look like a clown. Very unfortunate incident.

    Good.
     
    What the?

    So because, we're tired (A problem who is there because Mourinho only use the same players in ALL tournament and thereby a trouble he has self caused), we should just threw every standard, this mighty club has for three points?

    It's beyond me, that Mourinho can think about doing this.

    what are you on about - "the united way". stop this shit please. as if we always played attacking football under SAF. its all about winning, today was a hard game against a team fighting for survival. after this weeks a tactically superb display. this forum gets weirder and weirder - when we lose everything is shit, now we win and we dont win in the right way. dont be so miserable
     
    Jones I would keep.

    Smalling needs to leave.

    Smalling had a miskick on Boro's goal, yes. But Jones had a crap flying clearance that went high but barely to the edge of his box. Bailly got beat in the aerial duel, then Smalling couldn't get his feet from under him and really should have flicked his left boot, not right. Smalling defended strongly and did his part. Just because players make individual errors, don't forget their overall contribution to the game. And if you're going to single out Smalling, Bailly and Jones didn't cover themselves on glory either for the Boro goal.
     
    Because that is not the spirit of Manchester United. We shouldn't be a pragmatic club because Mourinho is a coward and a pragmatic human being.

    Like I said. I could accept if it was the 2nd leg of the semi finals of Champions League, and we were 10 minutes from getting into the final and we were playing at Allianz Arena, Santiago Bernabeu or Camp Nou. Then I could understand it, but this .... Against M'Boro? As team who barely can score a goal and in bad shape and form? I mean, how on earth can this even be possible to do?

    What fecking difference does it make what match it is? A win is a win! We needed a result much more than we needed a performance today.
     


    It was probably an FU to Middlesbrough for the way they sacked his good friend and former assistant Karanka. Rumors that it was player power that caused it. Karanka phoned Mourinho a few hours after the sacking and Jose was quite upset about it in his pre game interview. Love the celebration!
     
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Score Predictions

309,41,103
  • Man Utd win
  • Middlesbrough win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 23% Middlesbrough 0:2 Man Utd
  • 20% Middlesbrough 0:1 Man Utd
  • 15% Middlesbrough 1:2 Man Utd
  • 13% Middlesbrough 1:1 Man Utd
  • 9% Middlesbrough 0:0 Man Utd
  • 5% Middlesbrough 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Middlesbrough 1:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Middlesbrough 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Middlesbrough 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Middlesbrough 2:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Middlesbrough 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 2:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Middlesbrough 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Middlesbrough 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Middlesbrough 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Middlesbrough 1:5 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Middlesbrough
  2. Man Utd
Possession
64% 36%
Shots
10 14
Shots on Target
3 6
Corners
8 3
Fouls
9 8

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Jonathan Moss