Our players look absolutely fecking gassed.
FA Cup 5th Round
Manchester United 3:1 West Ham United
Old Trafford
- Kick-off
- Wed, 1 March 2023 @ 7:45pm GMT
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
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Don't want to lose the momentum we're building up. We're on a real roll at the moment and getting knocked out the cup would be a small blow to that. On the other hand, I accept the players are human and there's got to be a give at some point as we can't just ask the same key players to keep going every 3 days.
Some of: Varane, Shaw, Casemiro, Fred, Fernandes and Rashford are probably the ones who most need to be managed. But we can't manage without too many of them without the performance suffering. So I'd probably rest Varane and Shaw because of their injury history, but without them I'd be happier having Casemiro in front so Fred can be the one rested for Sabitzer. Rashford depends on how his knock reacts to today's game. I'd probably go with...
De Gea
Dalot
Maguire
Martinez
Malacia
Casemiro
Sabitzer
Antony
Fernandes
Sancho / Rashford
WeghorstI have an annoying feeling Bruno starts. Realistically we should go with McT, Sabitzer, and Sancho at the 10. Rest Varane and Shaw. Probably Weghorst up front (or maybe Martial finally gets his monthly run out if he's fit?)
Rashford shouldn't even be in the squad if I'm honestNeed to make changes here. Can’t keep playing a core 11 every few days.
De Gea
AWB Lindelof Maguire Malacia
Sabitzer Casemiro
Sancho Bruno Garnacho
WieghorstFor the first time in a long time, we have a squad that we can easily rest every player and still be very competitive
Heaton
AWB Maguire Lindelo Malacia
Sabitzer McT
Mainoo
Sancho Elanga GarnachoShaw, Varane, Bruno, Rashford and Fred need to sit this one out. Maguire and Lindelof were good enough to finish second a couple of seasons back so they should be enough against a sorry West Ham. Sancho, Antony and Garnacho are also good enough especially with Werghost as a target man. Then Sabitzer and Casemiro.
A lot of players will be playing for their United careers in this game if ETH chooses to rotate.
Obviously I don't want to lose. But the players looked really tired today. Just want some of the starters rested. Let me put it this way, out of the 4 games in this run, this is the one I'd be willing to sacrifice if it meant winning the rest. Ideally we would win all 4, but the squad isn't there yet.I'd play Dalot since it looks like he needs the minutes to get back to sharpness. Otherwise rotate the feck out of everyone except maybe De Gea and Casemiro (I'd love to see how he and Sabitzer do in a full game together).
Play the right back we don't intend to start at Anfield.
Potentially give Lindelof a start too.
Same with Garnacho
Stick with Casemiro as he had a recent 3 game rest.Can we please side a full B team for this? We won’t be able to go the full distance in the FA cup AND EL anyway, that alone would be like 15 games. If it’s not winable with rotation I‘d rather go out than risk injuries or burn out the key players.De Gea
Malacia
Lindelof
Maguire
Dalot
Sabitzer
Casemiro
Garnacho
Sancho
Elanga
WeghorstRest rashford, casemiro and varane.----------------------DeGea---------
AWB---Lindelof-----Maguire---Malacia
---------------------Casemiro------------
---------------McT---------
------------------------Sabitzer-------------
Sancho----------WW---------Garnacho
subs: Rashford or Elanga, Mainoo or Fred, Antony, Fernandes depending on how it goes
2:0 United EZTime for some rotation
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Dalot—Lindelof—Martinez—Malacia
———McTominay—Sabitzer
Sancho———Bruno———Garnacho
———————Martial
Casemiro could even play as he’s had a bit of a break recently. Hopefully Martial makes it. Not sure we have adequate cover for Bruno at the moment with Eriksen outWe don't need to rest everyone. This is the last 16 of a massive major cup, which we have a big chance of winning.
Yes, it's a lot of games, but this is to be expected when you're successful.
No doubt they'll be a few changes, but I don't think ten Hag will go crazy.
West Ham will be buoyed following their big win against Forest and they'll no doubt be up for this game.
Win this and we're in the quarters!
Weghorst
Sancho Bruno Antony
Sabitzer Casemiro
Malacia Shaw Maguire Dalot
De Gea
Garnacho, McTominay, RashfordRest Shaw, Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Fernandes and Rashford please.
I'd probably play Weghorst though
Yet the opposition look worse in every match right now. I’d be worried if we were finishing matches not having exerted ourselves.
Cas doesn’t need resting, he’s just had 3 games out around the Barca games, and given his 1 a game contractual yellow card habit he’ll get another FA mandated rest soon enough!
Can rotate a fair amount here:
Heaton
Dalot
Lindelof
Maguire
Malacia
McTominay
Sabitzer
Sancho
Fred
Garnacho
Weghorst
I’d probably play Martinez or Lindelöf, resting Shaw, but otherwise the same.
ETH has managed it all fantastically tbh. 16th match of 2023, and we keep putting in good performances. Absolute credit to the manager and the lads.Surely the first XI are getting a few days off this week.
Monday Tuesday, Thursday Friday and SaturdayAfter beating Barca and winning the cup not sure if most of those players that started today will have energy for this one. Rest whole defence and midfield + Rashford.
De Gea, Dalot, Lindelof, Martinez, Malacia, McTominay,
I'd put Martinez instead of Shaw and McTominay for Casemiro. Rest the same. Would be best if we can rest Bruno after today as well but we're short in that position with Eriksen and van de Beek injured.
I just get anxious at the thought of losing our Brazilian god to an unnecessary injuryCas doesn’t need resting, he’s just had 3 games out around the Barca games, and given his 1 a game contractual yellow card habit he’ll get another FA mandated rest soon enough!
Yeah, that's the team I went for (with Martinez CB and Shaw rested).I’d play a heavily rotated 11, with some big guns on the bench. They’ve had 3 big games in 7 days already and we’ve got Liverpool away next weekend. They’ve got to rest sometime, and the games only get bigger from here on.
——————-De Gea————
Dalot—Lindelof-Maguire-Malacia
———McTominay-Sabitzer————
Sancho——Weghorst——Garnacho
———————Martial?———————-
Should have enough to squeeze past West Ham
They pretty much do minimal training because of all these matches. You tend to rest/minimal workout on the day after the match, and ditto the day before a match. They won’t be exerting themselves and will be averaging only one full day of training a week currently. This is exactly why ETH needs to keep that continuity in his selection, as this is the only opportunity for him to engrain his philosophy in the team.Full strength!
I get the necessity for some squad management throughout the season, but I do get frustrated when people post about resting players for domestic cup games because we've got 'big' games coming up.
A last 16 FA Cup game against PL opponents is one of those big games. If we can squad manage by rotating some players that need resting then fine, but only if it doesn't come at the cost of losing a 'big' game like the FA Cup 5th round.
Yes, ETH needs to manage his squad over the final 3 months. But I'm glad he recognises the domestic cups - and the EL - as also being 'big' games so he'll only rotate to a level that he thinks won't prevent us winning another of those big games on Wednesday night.
Yes but just playing names who are tired is more risky than playing quality form the bench. You may have the comfort of the team sheet but legs on the pitch could be a problem.
Managers just don’t rotate for fear of injuries but trying to preempt poor performances as a collective as well.You rest Shaw, Varane, Casemiro, Fred, Bruno and Rashford and play the best team possible with the rest.With West Ham’s league position I suspect Moyes won’t go full strength either. Rotation but enough to win the game. Would be nice to win more than one trophy this season.
De Gea
Malacia
Martinez
Maguire
Dalot
Sabitzer
McTominay
Fred
Garnacho
Weghorst
Sancho
Many of our fans absolutely deserved to have Pochettino here: top four and nothing to show for it.
Yeah, absolutely. And that's ETH's call. But I imagine he'll only do that if and when, and really can't see him making anywhere near as many changes as some call for.
Because he's still prioritising trying to win the game and while, yeah, he'll occasionally see a fresh reserve as likely to put in a better performance than a tired first teamer, it's obvious that there's some players - the ones some want resting for games like this - that there's a huge drop off in quality if they don't feature and I expect to see him go with some of those v West Ham as we just can't afford to rest all of those key players in one go and still expect to win.
That's the kind of 'squad management in moderation' that I prefer, and that helps sides still win plenty of trophies - by giving key players occasional rests spread across different games, rather than blanket changes in a match to in effect 'throw' cup games and waste trophy opportunities.DDGThat team should be good enough to beat a struggling West Ham at home.
Dalot - Maguire - Lindelof - Malacia
McTominay - Sabitzer
Antony - Sancho - Garnacho
Weghorst
Casemiro, Bruno, Rashford on the bench if needed.Could really do with Martial fit for this one (and the next one tbh).
Our bench is actually quite good now. Nice to see. Or do I view these players as better than they are now due to Ten Hag's coaching?- Status
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Score Predictions
179,12,9
- Man Utd win
- West Ham win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 32% Man Utd 2:0 West Ham
- 23% Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
- 13% Man Utd 1:0 West Ham
- 10% Man Utd 3:0 West Ham
- 10% Man Utd 3:1 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 1:2 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 1:1 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 4:0 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 0:1 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:0 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 9:0 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:9 West Ham
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- West Ham
- Possession
- 60% 40%
- Shots
- 22 10
- Shots on Target
- 8 7
- Corners
- 8 1
- Fouls
- 12 5
Referee
Michael Salisbury
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Lisandro Martinez
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replaced by Fred
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replaced by Casemiro
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replaced by Raphael Varane
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
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