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Manchester United 1:0 West Ham United

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    Are you being stupid on purpose?

    we can still win and it be a poor performance. Them scoring an own goal doesn’t mean it was good.

    both rashford and Greenwood should have scored and it’s worrying how we keep missing these chances to kill games.
    It wasn’t a great performance but it certainly wasn’t a lucky win either.
     
    You think that was a good performance :wenger: easily pleased these days I guess
    You do realise that at this time of the season with the number of games we are having, then the injuries performances can drop. West Ham did not have one single shot on target. It was not great, but a vital win. At this stage I will take any win.
     
    You do realise that at this time of the season with the number of games we are having, then the injuries performances can drop. West Ham did not have one single shot on target. It was not great, but a vital win. At this stage I will take any win.
    Defensively did well, offensively rubbish. It would have been 0-0 without luck.
     
    So you think making defensive substitutions when we are 1 nil up is a good idea?

    Have you been paying attention at all this season?
    I‘m not going to bother debating with you if you can’t work out in your head how two injured players not contributing as well as they could for 10 minutes is a detriment to the team.

    Honestly saying anything otherwise is complete lunacy. Just accept your wrong and move on. Stop digging a hole.
     
    Our only goal being an own goal sure is lucky, it certainly wasn’t skill!
    We had multiple guilt edged chances to win it, absolutely dominated the game and possession and ultimately fully deserved to win the game.

    I don’t remember Henderson making a single save.

    C’mon man.
     
    We had multiple guilt edged chances to win it, absolutely dominated the game and possession and ultimately fully deserved to win the game.

    I don’t remember Henderson making a single save.

    C’mon man.
    We should have won the game with better finishing yes. I’m not saying it was a poor performance in total but yet again we aren’t finishing games off and it’s going to bite us.

    anyway West Ham deserve it for being so defensive
     
    Typical Utd really. You take the win, not sure what else you can take from that.. although Greenwood played well in fact, what a good footballer he is. West Ham would have been better off playing their normal formation, they may have won.

    Too many managers, including our own, adopt this risk-averse football. It's rubbish. Look at Tottenham earlier.. no ambition until they fall behind with a man down.

    And look around Europe; Inter, City, Bayern, PSG... these teams go out and try and win every, single match by playing their opponents off the park. Not waiting for 'mistakes'.

    I am quite uninspired by much football at the moment.
     
    I‘m not going to bother debating with you if you can’t work out in your head how two injured players not contributing as well as they could for 10 minutes is a detriment to the team.

    Honestly saying anything otherwise is complete lunacy. Just accept your wrong and move on. Stop digging a hole.

    Get down off your high horse. It doesn't suit you :lol:

    You watched the last game we played and what happened when we tried to close out a 1 nil with a three of Matic/Fred/McT with Diallo/Greenwood ahead of them, yes?
     
    That’s a counter factual that neither of us can prove.
    Considering we played 90 minutes and didn’t actually score a goal ourselves id say it’s more likely true but ok.

    we need to be sharper against teams that park the bus you don’t get 5 clear chances every game
     
    Who would they be crossing to? When we have it wide, and we've had it wide a lot, there's rarely a target in the box. Greenwood's not going to be winning it against those central defenders, nor is Dan James. It's Marcus or bust.
    Was too much crossing for my liking tonight, fine if Cavani is there but as you say no target man although Rashford should have scored that header first half.
     
    Considering we played 90 minutes and didn’t actually score a goal ourselves id say it’s more likely true but ok.

    we need to be sharper against teams that park the bus you don’t get 5 clear chances every game
    I accept what you’re saying and you might even be right. But ultimately it wasn’t a lucky win as the side who creates the most chances and has the most shots and the time with the ball closer to the oppositions goal is just more likely to force a mistake.

    Also there was nothing lucky about the way we defended, absolutely brilliant at the back! When you’re that defensively solid you only need one goal.

    That’s my take on it anyway. :D
     
    He doesn't even sound a little bit scottish ffs
    He doesn't even sound a little bit scottish ffs :lol:
    Bad explanation on what i ment in my post.
    :lol:
    That Is funny but I bet he try to speak Scottish now and then in secret...
    I do hear the Norwegian accent in his English, but he speaks English really well.

    I ment the way he try to be in control of intervjus and with the media. When he try to be a bit rough and dominant, it still comes out quite nice or even apologetic.
    For me sir Alex was the person that own the stage when he was on it. And Moyes was for me the one that only responded to the questions without a good plan on what is smart to say and what is not to say. Like he didn't understand how big Man Utd is, and the consequences. Ole do understand the size of the club and what is to say and not. Sometime he trys to answer questions like sir Alex, a bit bossy, but it does not comes naturally, and he end up sounding like Moyes but smarter. He is a nice gay, end I guess sir Alex is rougher on the edges.

    Someone els thought I was wrong be course of the positiv way Ole have, and Moyes didn't have. And that is a good point.

    I like Ole, and I believe he needs to get rougher on the edges. He does not act like a big maneger in a big club, and that could be a reason why many stil question if he belong were he is. Like Moyes didn't looked like he was at a place he felt conformable being at. Some think he was, other including me, that he wasn't, but I do not know the answer to that.

    Ole will gain a lott with a bit more roughness towards the media I think. But I also believe his way of handling players like he does, is much more needed in today's world of football.
     
    Two big chances, two half chances... we are getting there... and Mctominey haven't a shot on goal yet. Waiiiit for it!
    Close enough! he did touch the ball didn't he! :smirk:

    I am absolutely super happy with the result and even the performers. Tuff game and I do believe Moyes played us in the hands a bit by not trying harder to attack. When they did they actually created some minor problem. Rashford stood up for the team one more time playing "half injured". He didn't have the greatest game but I think it still showed how importen he is in our front three. Shaw was again my MOTM. Bruno was really good. Greenwood great, just needs the goals. CB´s was good, especially Maguire. Overall a good performans in a time when we are struggling a bit.
     
    Bad explanation on what i ment in my post.
    :lol:
    That Is funny but I bet he try to speak Scottish now and then in secret...
    I do hear the Norwegian accent in his English, but he speaks English really well.

    I ment the way he try to be in control of intervjus and with the media. When he try to be a bit rough and dominant, it still comes out quite nice or even apologetic.
    For me sir Alex was the person that own the stage when he was on it. And Moyes was for me the one that only responded to the questions without a good plan on what is smart to say and what is not to say. Like he didn't understand how big Man Utd is, and the consequences. Ole do understand the size of the club and what is to say and not. Sometime he trys to answer questions like sir Alex, a bit bossy, but it does not comes naturally, and he end up sounding like Moyes but smarter. He is a nice gay, end I guess sir Alex is rougher on the edges.

    Someone els thought I was wrong be course of the positiv way Ole have, and Moyes didn't have. And that is a good point.

    I like Ole, and I believe he needs to get rougher on the edges. He does not act like a big maneger in a big club, and that could be a reason why many stil question if he belong were he is. Like Moyes didn't looked like he was at a place he felt conformable being at. Some think he was, other including me, that he wasn't, but I do not know the answer to that.

    Ole will gain a lott with a bit more roughness towards the media I think. But I also believe his way of handling players like he does, is much more needed in today's world of football.

    I don't know why you're even comparing the three of them to be honest.

    Fergie wouldn't exactly be benchmark for how to deal with the media in the modern age.
     
    we were lucky with the own goal, and unlucky with hitting the post and a couple of wonder saves from fabianski.

    but we won a game that was about as comfortable as it gets for a 1-0. whilst not the be all and end all, its certainly another step forward.
     
    Considering we played 90 minutes and didn’t actually score a goal ourselves id say it’s more likely true but ok.

    we need to be sharper against teams that park the bus you don’t get 5 clear chances every game

    You can't actually analyse like that. The goal changed the match. If that own goal didn't go in, we'd have likely stayed on the front foot rather than invite pressure so who knows what would've happened. Can't draw conclusions about the 90mins as if there was no goal.
     
    You've seen the bench, have you? Who exactly would you play instead of McFred? Also, I'm not sure I saw Fred misplace a single pass today. People need to drop this autopilot complaint shite.
    Fred didn't misplace a single pass? :D Were we watching the same game? Not only misplaced passed under no pressure he missed the whole playing field and passed out of play at least on one occasion. :)
     
    Fred didn't misplace a single pass? :D Were we watching the same game? Not only misplaced passed under no pressure he missed the whole playing field and passed out of play at least on one occasion. :)

    Well, I could have put that better, but the point I was trying to make is that Fred's passing accuracy in this game was actually something I noted as a positive - often, you can recall at least a couple of really bad ones, but yesterday he was if anything notable for quite accurate passing. And the stats back that up - he had a better passing accuracy than any starting player on West Ham, and behind only Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof and Greenwood on United - 89,9%.

    Manchester United 1-0 West Ham - FA Cup 2020/2021 - Live Statistics (whoscored.com)

    And your preferred alternative midfield combo is?
     
    Well, I could have put that better, but the point I was trying to make is that Fred's passing accuracy in this game was actually something I noted as a positive - often, you can recall at least a couple of really bad ones, but yesterday he was if anything notable for quite accurate passing. And the stats back that up - he had a better passing accuracy than any starting player on West Ham, and behind only Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof and Greenwood on United - 89,9%.

    Manchester United 1-0 West Ham - FA Cup 2020/2021 - Live Statistics (whoscored.com)

    And your preferred alternative midfield combo is?
    It is interesting how statistic can be misleading. One of the players with even worse passing in crucial moments yesterday was actually AWB. :)

    For yesterdays game I would definitely start with Matic instead of Fred. And on the right anything but James. Give kids with potential a run out. Amad/Shola couldn't be worse. Or at the fecking least give them a few minutes ffs. And not with a sub at 85 minute but 75min at least.
     
    Mctom heads it onto his head, those own goals happen often. Dont think we were lucky at all agree hitting post and good saves arnt lucky either.
    I'm not be critical or negative on United. Quite the opposite. I'm not saying that you believe this but most often if the opposition is fortunate it's spun as United have been bad. Look at the AC match. United miss two sitters they're not unlucky but AC scores offside and through a hand ball and they were unfortunate because the right decision was made by VAR.
     
    We had multiple guilt edged chances to win it, absolutely dominated the game and possession and ultimately fully deserved to win the game.

    I don’t remember Henderson making a single save.

    C’mon man.
    I watched the match again. United were dominant.
     
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Possession
62% 38%
Shots
15 7
Shots on Target
4 0
Corners
6 3
Fouls
12 2

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