Manchester United 1:6 Tottenham Hotspur

TsuWave · Oct 4, 2020

Genuine question, do you guys see a manager at Real, Bayern or Barca surviving this? Or is it that we need +£100M investment to look semi organised?

I’m trying to see something.

reddevil80 · Oct 4, 2020

Looks like Donny might be telling Ole he wants go back to Ajax to me

snowkarl · Oct 4, 2020

Commentators are literally laughing at Ole and the club now... holyyy

Ranchero · Oct 4, 2020

Superunknown said:
We have done zero preparation for Spurs' attacks. Son and Kane are just doing what they've been doing in their others games.

I'm just watching Shaw's positional play on their fourth goal and I have no idea what he's doing or trying to do. He gets everything wrong. Every single one of our back four has been pure shite and they look like they've received no instruction beforehand.

But has happened all three games this season, both full backs are pulled out of position, and consequently on the goal you are talking about Maguire is covering. The defensive shape is all over the shop. There IS no shape. I have been reluctant to call for Ole's head, but the coaching is down to him. SHUT UP SHOP, now?
OMG. So white flags now.

United Hobbit · Oct 4, 2020

This could have been a similar scoreline against Brighton. We could at this stage have 0 points let that sink in

The_Midfielder · Oct 4, 2020

mu4c_20le said:
Matic needs to come off, midfield non existent now

This
Matic and Pogba

Superunknown · Oct 4, 2020

I semi-understand the modern day managerial approach where they are sat at the sidelines, as it's mostly down to the players when they're on the pitch. Buuuuuuut, there were at least 20 or 30 occasions in that first half where Sir Alex would have been laying into that back four. The positional play on all of the goals has been shocking. I don't see anything wrong with letting the players know this whilst the game is going on, especially as there is no crowd and the players will clearly be able to hear the manager.

I disagree with the notion that managers can't impact on a game from the sidelines. They most certainly can, imo.

Drawfull · Oct 4, 2020

Random Task said:
Nobody else feeling a second-half comeback like in the old days?

Turns out the most-optimistic fan in the world isn't in the Sancho thread

Utdstar01 · Oct 4, 2020

Bruno off instead of Pogba :lol:

sillwuka · Oct 4, 2020

Cancel the Smalling transfer and play him next game.

mitchmouse · Oct 4, 2020

how the hell is pogba still on the park? how can he stay ahead of bruno (unless he's just resting him)

Alemar · Oct 4, 2020

VDB and Fred on for Matic and Bruno. Who will take the penalty now?

John Keiler · Oct 4, 2020

Amerifan said:
You must be new around here. Anything bad that happens is indicative of fundamental flaws at every level of the organization that can only be solved by sacking everyone.

This game is a disaster, no question. But it hardly means our guys are relegation fodder.

Oh yes we are. Quite obviously so unless we change.

Orestetes · Oct 4, 2020

Ranchero said:
Yup, I have made this point before. There is no way that Smalling should be leaving our club when you see what we have. Yet we will conspire to lose him for buttons.

Jones and Rojo on the other hand... not trying to get rid of these at all. But probably our best defender, Smalling? Yep he has to go.

Sparky Rhiwabon · Oct 4, 2020

Damage limitation subs

Enfant terrible · Oct 4, 2020

Drainy said:
when have I said it wasn't?

I said that Maguire should have not a) given the foul away & b) should have prevented the quick free kick.

That is not the question, for some reason people are thinking that that means that Bailly gets off scot free for falling asleep.

Do you play for the u10s, your logic that only player should be blamed for any goal makes it seem like it.

edit : Saha is now agreeing that both are to blame..

Ok

In Rainbows · Oct 4, 2020

elmo said:
His rubbish antics off the pitch with his brother and agent coupled with his inconsistent performance despite almost starting every damn game he's available.

We don't need a player who can play 9/10 for 2 games out of every 10 games and go 3/10 for the rest of the games, that's the kind of player he is despite supposedly being in his prime.

Honestly amazed some of you have turned this into a Pogba witch hunt when the defense has been the clear reason for today's collapse.

What is any player supposed to do when the defense put in that kind of performance? Now you can say Pogba had some contribution to that (probably like on 2 occasions he should have been more alert). You can say the same about Matic and Bruno being too up front.

The point is, the back 4 are the clear reason why this match collapsed the way it did.

hungrywing · Oct 4, 2020

My only Eric said:
This is on Ed because he's a cnut and Ole.

Everyone knows Ole's formation is 4231 and the two DM's are either too slow or just poor at tackling, so they can be exploited.

All you have to do is drag pogba out of position and run behind Matic. Every team we've played this season in the league has used this against us successfully.

If I and every manager in the league can see this, why can't Ole?

Going back to the tail end of last season a few games after Pogba returned.

It really is insane. Opposition managers aren't about to stop doing it.

Ranchero · Oct 4, 2020

snowkarl said:
Commentators are literally laughing at Ole and the club now... holyyy

It makes you pine for the days when we had Jose Mourinho.

Salus Populi Suprema Lex · Oct 4, 2020

SuperiorXI said:
Who's gonna sack the board?

We the fans need to chase them out for their criminal negligence and incompetence. Put as much pressure on them as possible. For a start, every fan please join MUST.

Globule · Oct 4, 2020

How big a defeat would it take for Ole to walk and for the board to throw everything we have at Dortmund for Sancho?

DavidDeSchmikes · Oct 4, 2020

Fred and McTominay for Matic and Fernandes.

Drainy · Oct 4, 2020

MikeUpNorth said:
Is Maguire the worst United signing ever, pound for pound?

a lot of competition in recent years!

Nick7 · Oct 4, 2020

United Hobbit said:
This could have been a similar scoreline against Brighton. We could at this stage have 0 points let that sink in

We should have 0 points in all honestly. We did not deserve anything against Brighton.

downunder red · Oct 4, 2020

Ole has to show some variety with players and systems. His 4 2 3 1 is getting picked apart by other managers. Same team same players every week.

Man-United · Oct 4, 2020

4-1 down and you smile...

DomesticTadpole · Oct 4, 2020

Inigo Montoya said:
We’ve backed Ole because we like him not because he’s ever proved to be a good coach. Let’s be honest

Exactly. He is a legend, he is a nice guy but my god he is an awful coach/manager whatever it is. Isn't Mike Phelan supposed to be a coaching genius.

Amadaeus · Oct 4, 2020

I fear for ole now. Mourinho would want to absolutely destroy and embarrass us. He will be ruthless. Only hope is that we park the bus

Delano · Oct 4, 2020

Bruno off? Must of lamped someone in the dressing room.

Judas · Oct 4, 2020

Taking Bruno off is bizarre, why wouldn't you take Pogba off?

mitchmouse · Oct 4, 2020

Alemar said:
VDB and Fred on for Matic and Bruno. Who will take the penalty now?

maguire... who will fall over and hit it past ddg

pseudo_canadian · Oct 4, 2020

How the feck has Pogba escaped a sub? fecking fuming. feck him, useless lazy sack of shit.

starman · Oct 4, 2020

Nitewolf said:
Definitely watching a different game here mate.

Yeah, I am not bias, you have clearly tried not to blame Bailly for anything

PoTMS · Oct 4, 2020

Mourinho wants to embarrass Ole.

pratyush_utd · Oct 4, 2020

Utdstar01 said:
Bruno off instead of Pogba

Well he did deserve to go off

Drawfull · Oct 4, 2020

What?! I know, let's take off one of the few competent players. feck my actual life.

United Hobbit · Oct 4, 2020

Fred... for Bruno.

Really..
Least hes made a sub i guess

el3mel · Oct 4, 2020

What the feck, Bruno off ??

0le · Oct 4, 2020

Matic and Bruno off for Fred and McT. Lamela off, Moura on.

VeevaVee · Oct 4, 2020

Damage limitation. Which could ironically make things worse, depending how it goes.

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