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Manchester United 1:0 Tottenham Hotspur

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    But that was quite a weird lineup, one most people would consider now very defensive to start with, something like a 4-4-2 with Young and Valencia as wingers, or, if you prefer, a 3-5-2 with no playmakers whatsoever and Lingard and Rashford upfront.

    Chelsea's played from the back and it was very important to press david luiz aggressively up front to stop them playing from the back and get into pockets behind wingbacks on the ball. They did the job perfectly that day.
     
    Without a proper midfield and with poor attackers in Mata and Mkhi...yet, I have this gut feeling we will win for some reason.

    We do have a good record against this lot at home. Last season, they were in excellent form when they came to OT, yet Jose stifled their play and we won due to Mkhi's goal.

    Go 3-4-2-1 for this and beat them 1-0 on the counter.
     
    Our work rate needs to be really high in this game and the ball circulation tempo too needs to be brought up a notch.

    3412-343 hybrid would be great for this one with mkh doing both the roles as a 10 and as rw whenever he likes. I guess tottenham will set up the same way with 3 at the back so we will need to have a higher or atleast equal amount of work rate and energy relative to tottenham team. Lukaku needs better movement in this match too to do damage. Lingard's two goals in the midweek is good for his confidence if he comes of the bench. Herrera and matic needs to be really sharp in winning second balls this game to avoid deli ali win those and shoot from long distances. Bailly and valencia really have a job to do stopping erikson and ali linking up with harry kane as i feel smalling is vunrable to leak a goal down the centre.

    Could later become a 352 if we are leading comfortably with fellani or tuanzebe comming on i feel.
    Smalling has leaked less goals in the center than any of our other CB's, probably including Bailly. He was shit vs Chelsea last year and made a mistake against Leicester the season before but other than that he doesnt leak much goals.
     
    Smalling has leaked less goals in the center than any of our other CB's, probably including Bailly. He was shit vs Chelsea last year and made a mistake against Leicester the season before but other than that he doesnt leak much goals.

    But against kane if he goes one on one he could leak one.
     
    I only trust Bailly to deal with Kane. Herrera to nulify Alli. If only we have Fellaini. Gosh we need him.
     
    Be an idiot like Klopp hoping to win by playing open expansive football at Wembley, or be smart to play nullifying football and take a point or snatch a cheeky win.

    But i'd rather see us having the "Cojones" and control the game. Won't happen though.
     
    Go with a 343 with Valencia and Young as fullbacks and Rashford,Lukaku and Mikhi as a front 3. Still don't think Herrera and Matic complement each other at all, but it's not like we have a choice.

    Spurs played well agaisnt Pool, but all the goals they scored were because of poor defending from Liverpool. I don't think that will happen to us, if we go with Smalling, Jones and Baily.

    Hoping Jose has a proper plan like he did with Chelsea last season. Should be a very interesting match. Feel we can nick a win here, given we are playing at home.
     
    These are the games I love. The media have been praising the opposition all week, whilst we have been been getting a lot stick, then we get to go out and show them up.
     
    I would probably take a point right now. Can't see our defence keeping Kane out, need De Gea to probably have one of his great games. Also need Lukaku to take the fecking chances that come his way. 3-4-2-1, Mata not Mikhi please.
     
    Three at the back seems likely, but if Bailly isn't actually fit then I'm not sure Lindelof will be trusted (he's more likely to play against Benfica again). Smalling & Jones are both starting regardless. I don't think Martial & Rashford both start, it's one or the other. I was thinking the same for Mkhitaryan/Mata, especially if 343, though Lingard has given himself an argument to start over them. I feel as though Mkhitaryan and Mata have been poor for about a month now, since we strolled past Palace at Old Trafford at the end of September.

    de Gea
    Bailly Smalling Jones
    Valencia Herrera Matic Young
    Mkhitaryan Lukaku Rashford
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    Romero; Lindelof, Darmian, Blind; Mata, Lingard; Martial​

    Might be a bit harsh on McTominay and Tuanzebe not getting in the squad at all, could replace Darmian/Blind but I think José would like them as an option in this kind of game.

    Need to make a statement and win this one.
     
    We have to go at them, we're the home side. But you just know Mourinho is going to show them too much respect and try to grind it out...
     
    have a feeling this could be a nervy 1-0 win for us - we will need to be on top form

    tough team to play as excluding the excellence of Kane it can be hard to pick up Alli and Erickson

    think I'd play

    ------------------------------DDG--------------------------
    ---------SMALLING---BAILLY--JONES----------
    TONY V------HERRERA--MATIC------YOUNG
    ----------MHIKI--------------------RASHFORD-------
    -------------------------LUKAKU---------------------------

    I'd get Herrera to keep an eye on Erickson and trust one of our back 3 to pick up the runs from Alli

    Really hope Lukaku can make life hard for the Spurs defence
     
    But that was quite a weird lineup, one most people would consider now very defensive to start with, something like a 4-4-2 with Young and Valencia as wingers, or, if you prefer, a 3-5-2 with no playmakers whatsoever and Lingard and Rashford upfront.
    3-5-2 is the way to go with imo.
     
    Lads its spurs.....

    Well its not those spurs now, is it. They still havent won feck all but are probably the best they have in last 15-20 years. Jose will spring up a tactical surprise for sure like he does against other competitors.

    This is what i would go for but very sure jose wont -

    ------------DDG------------------
    ---------Smalling--jones---bailley------
    --valencia----Matic---herrera----Darmian---
    ----------------Martial/Pogba/fellaini---------------------
    ---------Lukaku---------Rashford-------

    Jose will go with a strategy where 1 goal wins the match, Like he did against Liverpool. He wont give a shit about the media or the spectacle he wants to win and that is what he will aim for even if one goes in via 7 deflections of lukaku's manhood.
     
    3 at the back seems to be in vogue at the moment, can someone explain why people think it's better suited to us than than 4 at the back?
     
    A draw against their current form would be a good result and most people who agree. But when we draw, the entire country including our own fans will be up in arms about how we played anti football.

    No winning...
     
    No way Mkhi doesn't start.
    A draw against their current form would be a good result and most people who agree. But when we draw, the entire country including our own fans will be up in arms about how we played anti football.

    No winning...

    You do know we can end up drawing without playing anti football ?

    If we set out like we did vs Liverpool, people will have a go at us (and rightly so)
     
    A draw against their current form would be a good result and most people who agree. But when we draw, the entire country including our own fans will be up in arms about how we played anti football.

    No winning...

    Yeah, draw against Spurs at home is a poor result. Doesn't matter which team and form, we should be winning our home games if we are serious about title challenge.
     
    Doesn't have to be a poor result, what matters is how we set out to play.

    We are not Arsenal, how we play is important but what we get from the game is even more important. .
     
    Yeah, draw against Spurs at home is a poor result. Doesn't matter which team and form, we should be winning our home games if we are serious about title challenge.

    Agreed. One of the justifications for our approach at Anfield was that Jose prioritises not losing away against big teams - so that we beat the lesser teams and then leave ourselves with the home advantage. Well we lost to Huddersfield, and have Chelsea away at the bridge next, so I think it's absolutely crucial that we win in this game. I'm not worried about set up because I'm sure Spurs are going to come here with the intention to dominate us, so by default if we want to win we have to take a certain amount of risk and have an attacking intent.
     
    3 at the back seems to be in vogue at the moment, can someone explain why people think it's better suited to us than than 4 at the back?
    I think neither 3-5-2 nor 4-2-3-1 suits us perfectly. People probably suggest 3-5-2 because it gets around a couple of issues:
    1) we don't actually have a right winger, we regularly play no 10s there
    2) in a 3-5-2 we can actually play one of those 10s at number 10 or we can play one of our young strikers as a second striker instead of a winger
    3) we don't really have a good left-back but Young, at a pinch, can be OK as a wing-back

    Now, the glaring issue with 3-5-2 is we have barely any midfielders available right now so...
     
    Yeah, draw against Spurs at home is a poor result. Doesn't matter which team and form, we should be winning our home games if we are serious about title challenge.

    This. We are 5 points behind, and level with Spurs. A win keeps us in touching distance of City and lets us pull away from Spurs.


    I'd take the most monumental of bus-parking 1-0 smash and grab with 25% possession and 15 De Gea worldies right now, and after the game the pundits will cry about how we are ruining football and in his post match interview, Mourinho will take a swig of a mug of Souness' salty tears.
     
    Set out to play

    We're not Stoke either.

    If we go all out to park the bus like we did against Liverpool, it's frustrating either way.

    I don't remember us parking the bus at Old Trafford in the league.
     
    Agreed. One of the justifications for our approach at Anfield was that Jose prioritises not losing away against big teams - so that we beat the lesser teams and then leave ourselves with the home advantage. Well we lost to Huddersfield, and have Chelsea away at the bridge next, so I think it's absolutely crucial that we win in this game. I'm not worried about set up because I'm sure Spurs are going to come here with the intention to dominate us, so by default if we want to win we have to take a certain amount of risk and have an attacking intent.

    Yeah, also winning home games is very important and we have seen many examples of that. We won league in 2010-11 by dropping only 2 points at home (thank you VDS for the feck up). Spurs last season had brilliant home record and got second place.

    We played very well against Arsenal last season and also in one of Van Gaal's season, both matches ended 1-1, I for one surely didn't enjoy the game as we dropped points.

    This. We are 5 points behind, and level with Spurs. A win keeps us in touching distance of City and lets us pull away from Spurs.


    I'd take the most monumental of bus-parking 1-0 smash and grab with 25% possession and 15 De Gea worldies right now, and after the game the pundits will cry about how we are ruining football and in his post match interview, Mourinho will take a swig of a mug of Souness' salty tears.

    Exactly. as it is we have dropped points already in the last 2 weeks, it's very important to get 3 points and remain in touching distance from first place.
     
    This. We are 5 points behind, and level with Spurs. A win keeps us in touching distance of City and lets us pull away from Spurs.


    I'd take the most monumental of bus-parking 1-0 smash and grab with 25% possession and 15 De Gea worldies right now, and after the game the pundits will cry about how we are ruining football and in his post match interview, Mourinho will take a swig of a mug of Souness' salty tears.

    Yeah basically this. Though maybe not as defensive a win as you suggest. I'd like us to try and play some sort of football too...
     
    Smalling to stick to Kane.

    Rashford and Lukaku to play but Martial to miss out.
     
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6 3
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