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Manchester United 2:1 Swansea City

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    Varela Jones Mike Blind

    Schneiderlin Basti(c)
    Herrera

    Pereira - - - - - - Memphis

    Martial​
     
    Whatever team we go with, we need to make sure we have width. Mata playing on the right isnt giving us anything going forward, in my opinion. If he cut in, controlled the game and made killer passes like when Silva plays on the right, then i'd understand, but he doesn't.

    Anyone know when Lingard's back? I'd have either him, Young or even give Depay a chance down the right to see how he does.
     
    Watch him shuffle to side about when they have a week of recovery until the next game. Our problems are down to us not buying a striker, end of, not even down to creating chances. It is down to not taking those chances. If we had a lethal striker up front then we would have a lot more points. Mrs hindsight strikes again. :)
     
    Like any fan, I want United to win. But I'd rather lose than draw.

    If van Gaal is going to save his job by "not losing" then id rather we just lose and have him forced out.

    We got to win. No entertaining draws to save him.
     
    I haven't given up hop of top 4 but if fail to win the little optimism I have will disappear. We aren't going to make up 7/8 points on Spurs.
     
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    RedPed said:
    I'm so steamed because van Gaal's smugness has returned after that mediocre display against Chelsea, thinking he's untouchable again.
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    It was a little strange seeing that interview.
    If I didn't know the scoreline, I'd have thought we'd just beaten Chelsea 5-0 or something.
    But, all we did was get another draw and avoid defeat.
    The media seemed to think that he had 2 games to prove himself and it looked like the deal was that he had to lose both games to be fired. 1 point from 2 games was his target and he achieved it.
     
    Feeling strangely bit confident about this one. Maybe law of averages. We have to win a match sometime.
    If we play with the same intensity we played against Chelsea in the first half, we will do them.
     
    sunama said:
    It was a little strange seeing that interview.
    If I didn't know the scoreline, I'd have thought we'd just beaten Chelsea 5-0 or something.
    But, all we did was get another draw and avoid defeat.
    The media seemed to think that he had 2 games to prove himself and it looked like the deal was that he had to lose both games to be fired. 1 point from 2 games was his target and he achieved it.
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    I think that whole two games to save his job was bull and totally made up.
     
    God knows what to expect from this. We tend to lose to Swansea, will that change suddenly now? We can only pray.
     
    Bet we'll revert back to type under LVG. Slow, ponderous, easy to slice open with pace and power while creating jack. This is the time for him to show that he can be versatile with his approach and do what works; building on the performance against Chelsea. If he doesn't, I'll officially declare Woodward and the board lost causes.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    Bet we'll revert back to type under LVG. Slow, ponderous, easy to slice open with pace and power while creating jack. This is the time for him to show that he can be versatile with his approach and do what works; building on the performance against Chelsea. If he doesn't, I'll officially declare Woodward and the board lost causes.
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    Revert back? We had 2 shots on target against Chelsea. Why are people acting like we battered them?
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    We played far better against them than we have in any recent memory. Nobody's saying we battered them. If you can't see that then go watch it again. Far from perfection but a good place to build from.
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    He should be letting this side play again and as you say build on the understanding. Typical of him he will rip it to shreds to rotate the tiny squad we have, even though they have a week to recover. He had the right formation last season but didn't seem to realise it.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    We played far better against them than we have in any recent memory. Nobody's saying we battered them. If you can't see that then go watch it again. Far from perfection but a good place to build from.
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    Something to build from is bollocks. If we had a decent manager we would have that intensity every week, especially against a poor Chelsea side. How that has saved his job shows we are becoming a mid-table club with that attitude.
     
    Offside said:
    Something to build from is bollocks. If we had a decent manager we would have that intensity every week, especially against a poor Chelsea side. How that has saved his job shows we are becoming a mid-table club with that attitude.
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    Holy crap calm your shit. I do agree with you, as do many on this forum. That improved performance shouldn't have been an excuse for him to keept he job, Read all my posts; I've argued that he should've been sacked after Norwich.

    Something to build from, however, if not bollocks if we are to accept that he is staying. He needs to draw from the positives in that game; playing with pace, more movement, and higher tempo. We can only pray that he isn't so retarded and narrow minded not to embrace them.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    Holy crap calm your shit. I do agree with you, as do many on this forum. That improved performance shouldn't have been an excuse for him to keept he job, Read all my posts; I've argued that he should've been sacked after Norwich.

    Something to build from, however, if not bollocks if we are to accept that he is staying. He needs to draw from the positives in that game; playing with pace, more movement, and higher tempo. We can only pray that he isn't so retarded and narrow minded not to embrace them.
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    The thing is that he seemed to have found his best tactics when we had that amazing run towards the end of last season. This season we were supposed to built on that, however, if last season was shit on a stick, now its just shite from a pipe. I will second that he should have been sacked after the Norwich game.
     
    Expecting the likes of Gomis to play like a thoroughbred horse on ketamine rather than his tranquilised elephant game that he churns out week after week.

    Same with Voldemort turning into some nasty game changer with his Elder Wand.

    Game raising cnuts.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    We played far better against them than we have in any recent memory. Nobody's saying we battered them. If you can't see that then go watch it again. Far from perfection but a good place to build from.
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    we already reverted to type in the second half.
     
    Water Melon said:
    The thing is that he seemed to have found his best tactics when we had that amazing run towards the end of last season. This season we were supposed to built on that, however, if last season was shit on a stick, now its just shite from a pipe. I will second that he should have been sacked after the Norwich game.
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    What you have to remember is that our midfield Fellaini, Herrera and Mata were contributing with goals. Carrick was the glue that held it together. He brought in BFS and Schneiderlin. He now doesn't know what combinations to play. He puts Carrick with BFS which is scaringly slow. Puts Carrick with Fellani which is again scaringly slow and crap. In the process marginalising Herrera who should be the tip of a threesome. He hit on what could be the best option against Chelsea, if left to form an understandin. I hope he does, however he seems to be the 2015/16 version of the tinkerman.
     
    Winrar said:
    we already reverted to type in the second half.
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    To me that is either we lack stamina or the manager tells them to do it. I blame him both ways. I am convinced he over trains them too close to a game, instead of building the fitness up over a week.
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    To me that is either we lack stamina or the manager tells them to do it. I blame him both ways. I am convinced he over trains them too close to a game, instead of building the fitness up over a week.
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    I think it's the former. There's no way he told the team to play at a slower pace at HT. However, Pochettino is notorious for working his players and Spirs don't seem to tire.
     
    Adisa said:
    I think it's the former. There's no way he told the team to play at a slower pace at HT. However, Pochettino is notorious for working his players and Spirs don't seem to tire.
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    Then I presume it is how you work them and when. Would be interesting to see if there are any differences between the two training regimes.
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    What you have to remember is that our midfield Fellaini, Herrera and Mata were contributing with goals. Carrick was the glue that held it together. He brought in BFS and Schneiderlin. He now doesn't know what combinations to play. He puts Carrick with BFS which is scaringly slow. Puts Carrick with Fellani which is again scaringly slow and crap. In the process marginalising Herrera who should be the tip of a threesome. He hit on what could be the best option against Chelsea, if left to form an understandin. I hope he does, however he seems to be the 2015/16 version of the tinkerman.
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    Agreed. My main concern is that the team does seem to be scared of playing a wrong pass. In LvG's theoretical world everything is ideal, we should never put a foot wrong, the opposition should give us all the time we need to play a safe pass forward, the opposition is supposed to make a mistake, we should never ever lose a ball. We do not make runs between the lines, we do not play at higher tempo, we do not have different tactics for different opponents. My guess is that if we try to play the way we did last game this time against scousers, they will tear a new sieve on our butts and some of the posters will then justify LvG for playing extremely safe when we were getting 0-0 draws.
     
    Water Melon said:
    Agreed. My main concern is that the team does seem to be scared of playing a wrong pass. In LvG's theoretical world everything is ideal, we should never put a foot wrong, the opposition should give us all the time we need to play a safe pass forward, the opposition is supposed to make a mistake, we should never ever lose a ball. We do not make runs between the lines, we do not play at higher tempo, we do not have different tactics for different opponents. My guess is that if we try to play the way we did last game this time against scousers, they will tear a new sieve on our butts and some of the posters will then justify LvG for playing extremely safe when we were getting 0-0 draws.
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    That is the big problem with his philosophy, he drills and drills them until as you say the opposition make a mistake, but what if they don't? Then what? He has woefully underestimated the quality of the teams in the PL and has to realise that the managers here have the great Louis van Gaals number.
     
    Winrar said:
    we already reverted to type in the second half.
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    We slowed down but there was still a hell lot more attacking intent. I put it down to being out of practice with playing such football, disgraceful as it is to even being in this state.

    Water Melon said:
    The thing is that he seemed to have found his best tactics when we had that amazing run towards the end of last season. This season we were supposed to built on that, however, if last season was shit on a stick, now its just shite from a pipe. I will second that he should have been sacked after the Norwich game.
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    I genuinely believe that he has no clue how to embrace the key aspects of attacking football that has served us best; offensive movement, pace and tempo. He shouldn't be in the job right now because all any good performances do is give him the excuse to validate the shit that he'll serve up next.
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    That is the big problem with his philosophy, he drills and drills them until as you say the opposition make a mistake, but what if they don't? Then what? He has woefully underestimated the quality of the teams in the PL and has to realise that the managers here have the great Louis van Gaals number.
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    This is an interesting point. I thought of this as we, sort of, battered Chelsea for the first 25 or so minutes, on Monday. I genuinely think our preparation against the non-top teams (mid to lower table) has been purposely lacking thus resulting in our lacklustre performances and poor records against those teams. Whereas, we seem to go in with clear plans against the top teams, hence our improved record against them.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    We slowed down but there was still a hell lot more attacking intent. I put it down to being out of practice with playing such football, disgraceful as it is to even being in this state.
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    that really only goes to show how bad we've been right now.

    yes, we were comparatively better but still nowhere near the standards we should be at.

    I'm not talking about the first 30 or so minutes by the way, which was actually surprisingly good to watch for the first time in what feels like forever.
     
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    Winrar said:
    that really only goes to show how bad we've been right now.

    yes, we were comparatively better but still nowhere near the standards we should be at.

    I'm not talking about the first 30 or so minutes by the way, which was actually surprisingly good to watch for the first time in what feels like forever.
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    Oh I agree. Nowhere near good enough. Still, it's a start, and we can only pray that Louis gets it. I don't believe he will though. He's an arrogant moron IMO.
     
    It's all about the finishing, not the intensity or the possession percentage. It can't fall all on Martial, who can't and shouldn't carry the entire scoring load.

    I'm not confident going into this one but we should be able to grind out a 1-0 win.
     
    People thinking we'll get away with a clean sheet. If Louis persists with Blind in defence, no chance.

    1.Gomis will power his way through.
    2. Montero on the wing.
    3. Ayew who is pacey and strong in the air.
    4. Sigurdsson on the set pieces.
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    People thinking we'll get away with a clean sheet. If Louis persists with Blind in defence, no chance.

    1.Gomis will power his way through.
    2. Montero on the wing.
    3. Ayew who is pacey and strong in the air.
    4. Sigurdsson on the set pieces.
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    Rubbish. Blind has already done well against some physical forwards this season. The fact is our defence is much better with Smalling and Blind. We've been shipping goals ever since Jones got back in the starting 11
     
    LeftyBlaster said:
    People thinking we'll get away with a clean sheet. If Louis persists with Blind in defence, no chance.

    1.Gomis will power his way through.
    2. Montero on the wing.
    3. Ayew who is pacey and strong in the air.
    4. Sigurdsson on the set pieces.
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    Bigger problem is the Schmidfield and Herrera allowing attackers to dribble through the middle on counters. I hope Schneiderlin doesn't pick up an early yellow card.
     
    The score predictions are strangely in favor of United on here.

    I thought after 8 games without a win and losing 3 times in a row to Swansea, the pie chart was going to look like the one pre match vs Stoke
     
    Loublaze said:
    Rubbish. Blind has already done well against some physical forwards this season. The fact is our defence is much better with Smalling and Blind. We've been shipping goals ever since Jones got back in the starting 11
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    Gomis had him on toast the last game
     
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  • 20% Man Utd 1:0 Swansea
  • 20% Man Utd 2:0 Swansea
  • 18% Man Utd 0:0 Swansea
  • 7% Man Utd 3:0 Swansea
  • 7% Man Utd 2:1 Swansea
  • 6% Man Utd 1:2 Swansea
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  • 3% Man Utd 0:2 Swansea
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  • 2% Man Utd 5:0 Swansea
  • 2% Man Utd 4:0 Swansea
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Swansea
  • 1% Man Utd 0:3 Swansea
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  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Swansea
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  • 0% Man Utd 4:2 Swansea
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55% 45%
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14 10

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