Champions League Group H

Manchester United 1:3 Paris St Germain

Old Trafford

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Wed, 2 December 2020 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    RedSky said:
    He got the ball though to be fair, so ultimately it was the refs fault. But either way, we had more than enough chances to be ahead at that point.
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    The ref was lenient in the first half he could and probably should have gone for the head movement. I dont agree with it but its the laws of the game. Not on the ref at all.
     
    RonaldoVII said:
    It made zero difference conceding that goal, what are you on about?
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    It did. We will finish second if PSG beat Istanbul.

    Only reason why we're still first is because all three teams are on 9 points so it creates a minileague that is grouped by GD. That obviously won't be the case when the next matchweek is over and we have an inferior H2H with PSG.
     
    Random Task said:
    He wasn't lunging in the player, though. He miss controlled the ball, then stretched to reach it as it drifted away from him. It wasn't even a foul, let alone a yellow.
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    He lunged in, as in threw himself to stretch for the ball, which is clearly a risky move on a yellow. He might've got the ball that time and it was an obvious mistake by the referee, but it shows that he wasn't risk averse despite the fact that he could've been sent off twice in the first half (straight red for headbutt, second yellow when Paredes was booked)
     
    Cantona in disguise said:
    He got sent off because he had an awful touch and ended up chasing it, looked worse than it was. He gave the ref a decision to make by lunging in. Clutching at straws blaming the ref mate.
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    Oh come on, you can't hold Ole accountable for a bad refereeing decision. The ref cheated, basically.

    I get that leaving Fred on the pitch was risky from Ole (I wouldn't have done so myself), but you can understand why he did leave him on. He wanted to show faith in his player, which was repaid with an improved performance in the second half.

    Then the ref happened.
     
    Fred,outside of his red, was absolutely awful with his distribution in forward passes yet again.
     
    Recurring theme for me is that I want Ole, Pogba and Martial out and its always one of them whos at fault always. Tonight it was Ole and Martial.
    Just furious.
     
    Volumiza said:
    How do you see it? Fred was very lucky to stay on the pitch in the first half.
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    He never touched the guy. Who I might add instigated the whole thing including put his head in first.
    But it changes nothing, it was never a second yellow. Fred took all of the ball and caught the man after. Textbook tackle. Ref bottled it the same way he bottled everything else in the game. All he had to do was take a second to think about it like he did in the first half, but no he had ten bitches from Paris in his ear and caved.
     
    Inigo Montoya said:
    I get that but Fred is a walking error if ever I’ve seen one.
    Soton; error leads to a goal
    Tonight should have been off in the first half, stays on and plays like he doesn’t care.

    Shouid have been subbed on 60 if anytime or at HT.
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    I would have hauled him off at HT. Herrera coming on you just knew what was going to happen. We loved Ander for some of his stuff, so they can't say they didn't know what he does.
     
    boxykronikle said:
    The onus is on Ole. Late to react to sub out Fred. You have 5 subs FFS.
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    Simple Fred for VdB. That's it. But w
    Raees said:
    I don’t think we should be too disheartened from today. PSG lost to us and have come back from it. We just need to do the same against Leipzig. We have the better team just need to show it one more time.
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    I agree. We should be positive in that game. My problem is that we went into this game thinking we were inferior, by playing two defensive midfielders. We cannot go into the Leipzig game thinking a draw is enough. Go out there and win the game. Simple. But Ole is not as positive as he would have us believe.
     
    UnitedSofa said:
    Is it feck,

    Martial missed 2 sitters!

    How on earth is it anything to do with Ole?

    Why waste a sub on getting subbing an experienced player who should know better?
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    Everyone knew it was risky keeping Fred on. There’s literally no point keeping him on after halftime, and we have an abundance of midfielders to put on. It makes no sense why he was still on the field
     
    Gasolin said:
    They won, we missed our big chances. It's a moment for Martial to learn about the need to bury our chances. We played to win, we lost, but we still have a chance to qualify. But yeah, the game for City is going to be a problem.
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    It is a moment for Marial to sulk on the bench. He is a waste of space this season.
     
    PoTMS said:
    It did. We will finish second if PSG beat Istanbul.

    Only reason why we're still first is because all three teams are on 9 points so it creates a minileague that is grouped by GD. That obviously won't be the case when the next matchweek is over and we have an inferior H2H with PSG.
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    There's so many things that can happen before worrying about a potential last 16 game.

    You could also argue it's more advantageous to play away 2nd and we're better away from home.
     
    Random Task said:
    Oh come on, you can't hold Ole accountable for a bad refereeing decision. The ref cheated, basically.

    I get that leaving Fred on the pitch was risky from Ole (I wouldn't have done so myself), but you can understand why he did leave him on. He wanted to show faith in his player, which was repaid with an improved performance in the second half.

    Then the ref happened.
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    I'm not blaming ole for the defeat or missed chances but he was brainless for leaving fred on the pitch my missus is a div and even she said why isn't he taking Fred off when he came out for the 2nd half. The ref didn't cheat I would say he looked at that head movement at half time and thought he'd made a mistake, he was looking for an excuse to put it right.
     
    Nou_Camp99 said:
    We went 2 1 down when he was still on though so it might have not mattered.

    Bad finishing cost us that game. Martial was good last season. He's been shit this year.
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    This is true. But we were not going to get and equaliser with one less player, although my god we didn't half make a fist of it. Unlucky? I don't think so. We started the game on the back foot and from the start we were playing catchup. We cannot keep handing the impetus to the opposition.
     
    meh, deserved it with the chances we missed tbh, baffling to keep Fred on - huge game versus RBL now which we will no doubt bottle to continue our banter era
     
    big rons sovereign said:
    He never touched the guy. Who I might add instigated the whole thing including put his head in first.
    But it changes nothing, it was never a second yellow. Fred took all of the ball and caught the man after. Textbook tackle. Ref bottled it the same way he bottled everything else in the game. All he had to do was take a second to think about it like he did in the first half, but no he had ten bitches from Paris in his ear and caved.
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    That is besides the point mate, he could have easily been sent off. He was lucky.

    I actually agree with the rest of your post but I still say feed shouldn’t have come out for the second half.
     
    Inigo Montoya said:
    But he should have tested the keeper in the first half but chose to pass. He was not effective
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    Oh don't get me wrong, he was terrible, but somehow he wasn't nearly the worst player for United.
     
    [/QUOTE]Jesus really. He was lucky in the first half to not get another yellow. I thought that Ole would take him off after the first half.
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    First half incident have no relevance. None.
    You wouldn't have mentioned this if the referee didnt make that moronic mistake, and Martial had been HALF decent and scored on his two 100% chances. That why it annoys me that Ole gets blamed for something that only matter now when the ref made that wrong call while it wouldn't if he didn't.
     
    Leipzig are going to get some proper revenge over us.
    Well done United, fecking idiots.
     
    Cantona in disguise said:
    I'm not blaming ole for the defeat or missed chances but he was brainless for leaving fred on the pitch my missus is a div and even she said why isn't he taking Fred off when he came out for the 2nd half. The ref didn't cheat I would say he looked at that head movement at half time and thought he'd made a mistake, he was looking for an excuse to put it right.
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    I think the ref took the opportunity to set right his previous error, but hey, I can't prove it so whatever I guess.
     
    Dec9003 said:
    You know we have another match that we don’t even need to win don’t you?
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    I will be more confident if it was a must win. We were in the same situation tonight and we did not know what to do at first. This team is better with his back on the wall. They have no idea how to manage a result
     
    Ole went with the wrong players. McTominay + VDB would have been a better pairing.

    Ole takes a lot of the blame for mismanaging the game, but you can't plan for players missing open netters like Martial did. How Fred came out for the 2nd half is a mystery. It was obvious Fred was walking the tightrope and he fell and killed our hopes of winning this.
     
    iammemphis said:
    He also fecked PSG by not sending him off in the first half?
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    Meh. The "headbutt" wasn't a headbutt, and it was correctly at worst a yellow, not a red. The tackle Paredes got booked for was like 50/50 foul for both sides but shouldn't have been a yellow for either. We were dumb not taking him off as he always plays on the edge, but they didn't get fecked over by a blatantly bad call.
     
    Volumiza said:
    That is besides the point mate, he could have easily been sent off. He was lucky.

    I actually agree with the rest of your post but I still say feed shouldn’t have come out for the second half.
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    Lets be clear, Paredes is a little c*nt on the pitch. But Fred could have easily been out in the 1st half when the ref gives Paredes a yellow and in fact it was Fred who stomped his ankle.
     
    Volumiza said:
    That is besides the point mate, he could have easily been sent off. He was lucky.

    I actually agree with the rest of your post but I still say feed shouldn’t have come out for the second half.
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    True, but you can't just sub players because they've been booked, the scums plan was to get somebody sent off, they were trying it all over the park and he gave them.everything.
    Who would he bring on, matic? We'd have been dead in the water with him there.
     
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Edinson Cavani image Edinson Cavani 29% of 217 votes

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  • Man Utd win
  • PSG win
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Detailed Results

  • 27% Man Utd 1:1 PSG
  • 21% Man Utd 2:1 PSG
  • 9% Man Utd 1:2 PSG
  • 9% Man Utd 2:2 PSG
  • 7% Man Utd 0:2 PSG
  • 6% Man Utd 1:0 PSG
  • 6% Man Utd 2:0 PSG
  • 5% Man Utd 3:1 PSG
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 PSG
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:3 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 4:0 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 4:3 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 PSG
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  1. Man Utd
  2. PSG
Possession
44% 56%
Shots
12 13
Shots on Target
5 6
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3 5
Fouls
20 10

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Daniele Orsato

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