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    -------------de Gea
    Valencia---Bailly---Rojo---Young
    ----------Matic---Pogba
    ---Lingard---Fellaini--Rashford
    -------------Lukaku

    Zlatan to replace Fellaini, Martial on for Rashford at some point, Mkhitaryan/Mata for Lingard.
     
    More excited about Zlatan being back tbh. I think he'll surprise everyone at 10. So long as he has runners either side of him.
     
    yfoFC said:
    It was a thing on the Caf just a few weeks ago to justify Jose's handling of martial and rashford
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    What's wrong with the way Jose has handled Raahford and Martial? I thought has handled them pretty well so far.
     
    Pexbo said:
    Who's our impact off the bench against tired legs?
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    That’s definitely one of the factors to consider.

    All else being equal, I think “play your best players in the right system” factor simply outweighs the “impact sub” factor. Simple example, MSN/BBC.

    I am not undermining the impact sub factor. Fergie did it with Solskjaer/etc...

    I think Jose’s reluctance to play them both is mainly because of none of them are suited on the right, rather than the “impact sub” factor. He is having dilemma now, as evidenced by alternating them in the starting XI.
     
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    ManuMou said:
    That’s definitely one of the factors to consider.

    All else being equal, I think “play your best players in the right system” factor simply outweighs the “impact sub” factor. Simple example, MSN/BBC.

    I think Jose’s reluctance to play them both is mainly because of none of them are suited on the right, rather than the “impact sub” factor.
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    Personally think the reason is more that our midfield and Mkhi have been shit. Playing two wide attacking forwards when you have no control in the middle is daft.

    Pogba's return may allow us to go 3 in midfield and unleash them both.
     
    Smores said:
    Personally think the reason is more that our midfield and Mkhi have been shit. Playing two wide attacking forwards when you have no control in the middle is daft.

    Pogba's return may allow us to go 3 in midfield and unleash them both.
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    Could be it. I hope you are right simply because I want to see them both in our strongest XI IMO.
     
    Getting really excited especially as we have a lot more options now. Getting the popcorn ready too.
     
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    GM K said:
    What's wrong with the way Jose has handled Raahford and Martial? I thought has handled them pretty well so far.
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    And you have every right to think that way but some (like me) would prefer if martial is given a regular starting berth down the left and/or have both play on the same team with rashford on the right

    I'm not here to debate whether what Jose is doing is right or wrong as we've done that plenty of times in their respective threads so I'm just stating my PoV

    Lastly, I've come to terms with both of them being rotated but if rashford is the clear favorite for the league then I wouldn't like it one bit but there's nothing I can do about it but to state my opinion on the forum.
     
    ManuMou said:
    That’s definitely one of the factors to consider.

    All else being equal, I think “play your best players in the right system” factor simply outweighs the “impact sub” factor. Simple example, MSN/BBC.

    I am not undermining the impact sub factor. Fergie did it with Solskjaer/etc...

    I think Jose’s reluctance to play them both is mainly because of none of them are suited on the right, rather than the “impact sub” factor. He is having dilemma now, as evidenced by alternating them in the starting XI.
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    Another factor to take into consideration:

    Fatigue over a full season. The way Mourinho is managing them at the moment, they both should continue through the whole season fresh and if one picks up an injury the other should be in the condition to cover him for 5+ games.

    Your example of MSN/BBC enjoy the luxury of reduced intensity in a lot of their games over the last 30 minutes and it's usually about controlling the game. We're not there yet.
     
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Herrera and Mkhitaryan left out of the starting team today, but not sure how much the returning trio of Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Rojo will play, if any - Pogba off the bench maybe, the other two I don't know.
     
    ZAGREB RED said:
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Herrera and Mkhitaryan left out of the starting team today, but not sure how much the returning trio of Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Rojo will play, if any - Pogba off the bench maybe, the other two I don't know.
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    I think Pogba will start, he was ready before the break, the other 2 from the bench,
     
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    On the way to the match atm, looking forward to it. Hope to see Pogba and Zlatan get some time.
     
    A big shout out to the mods who do a great job. I had posted a video that I thought expressed how I was setting up for the game. Getting a little worked up seeing the returning players. In retrospect that was of zero value to the thread and forum. Sorry about that guys. Go United.
     
    Mciahel Goodman said:
    More excited about Zlatan being back tbh. I think he'll surprise everyone at 10. So long as he has runners either side of him.
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    I too am excited mostly about Zlatan.
    One problem though is that Ibra tends to come back very rusty and then plays himself into form, so I'm not expecting him to do anything special in the next few games.
    At around 1st Jan, I do expect big things from him.
     
    Darkhorsez said:
    A big shout out to the mods who do a great job. I had posted a video that I thought expressed how I was setting up for the game. Getting a little worked up seeing the returning players. In retrospect that was of zero value to the thread and forum. Sorry about that guys. Go United.
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    You were getting sexually aroused, at the thought of players returning from injury and you made a video of it, posted it and the mods removed it?
     
    A solid win today and it'll give us a massive massive boost. Seeing Pogba, Zlatan and Rojo back is huge. Having a matching impressive win on their return will give us the momentum we need.

    Alternatively, a 0-0 with a Zlatan cameo goal in the last 10 minutes will be equally as satisfying for me.
     
    yfoFC said:
    I know it broke then but was hoping it was a glitch rather than something permanent. So is it now confirmed that rashford is the favorite for the league?

    I would truly hate that as I just came to terms with the rotation policy with the hopes that martial will be able to play his way into more regular starting berths.

    How are we to know if he's any good in the league if he isn't given the chance to prove himself there?
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    Also hoping that to be the case despite me not really liking it(rotation policy). I might not like it but at least it guarantees some game times for Martial in the league, the competition that matters the most.

    I'll wait and see the line up but if Mou is really saving Martial for cup games then shame on him.
     
    GM K said:
    What's wrong with the way Jose has handled Raahford and Martial? I thought has handled them pretty well so far.
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    Well if José doesn't start Martial it would mean that the rotation policy people have used to justify the handling of those 2 would prove to be false and it'll only further prove claims that Rashford is the preferred player for important games(league) while Martial is a cup player. And that of course would really be unfair to Martial.
     
    Santoryo said:
    Well if José doesn't start Martial it would mean that the rotation policy people have used to justify the handling of those 2 would prove to be false and it'll only further prove claims that Rashford is the preferred player for important games(league) while Martial is a cup player. And that of course would really be unfair to Martial.
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    Martial started vs Liverpool.
     
    Santoryo said:
    Well if José doesn't start Martial it would mean that the rotation policy people have used to justify the handling of those 2 would prove to be false and it'll only further prove claims that Rashford is the preferred player for important games(league) while Martial is a cup player. And that of course would really be unfair to Martial.
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    Martial started vs Liverpool , but did nothing that day. Both are getting fair chances.
     
    If Zlatan comes on in the second half, it’s gonna be serious goosebumbs-time!
     
    Excited like a kid a Xmas for Z's comeback.

    Pogba only adds to it.
     
    yfoFC said:
    And you have every right to think that way but some (like me) would prefer if martial is given a regular starting berth down the left and/or have both play on the same team with rashford on the right

    I'm not here to debate whether what Jose is doing is right or wrong as we've done that plenty of times in their respective threads so I'm just stating my PoV

    Lastly, I've come to terms with both of them being rotated but if rashford is the clear favorite for the league then I wouldn't like it one bit but there's nothing I can do about it but to state my opinion on the forum.
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    That one starts over the other does not necessarily mean the one who starts is the favourite. It might just be a strategy thing and according to Jose, the type of game and opponent faced. I think people just read a whole lot of meanings into the rotation thing. Moreover if the manager does indeed see Rashford as a 'favourite', it wouldn't be unusual in football. The important thing is that he gives the other player a fair chance and so far, Martial has had that.
     
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65% 35%
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