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Manchester United 2:1 Manchester City

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Sat, 14 January 2023 @ 12:30pm GMT
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    lex talionis said:
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    No, I just think in every game there is a designated scape goat who unless they are exceptional will take an unrealistic amount of the flak. Martial, without Maguire, McTominay and Fred playing well is that guy at the moment.
     
    Shakesey said:
    I'm glad Malacia is getting some love on here. Fred as well.
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    Both been fantastic at nullifying their target. We've worked as a team too and just missing that final touch or pass to really punish them
     
    We should have scored at least one. Hope we don't regret it later. And really hope Rashford is ok. Take him off in the second half if necessary.

    Tough match for both sides so far. Pep surely will make changes in the second half. Expect City to go forward harder and take more risk imo. But that also means more chances for us to counter. If Rashford is fine and can play he'll definitely score.
     
    justboy68 said:
    Martial was no where near as bad as people are making out. He had a rough opening ten which set the narrative. Most of our counters after that were possible because he was doing the right thing and he linked up decently. He just lacks the intelligent movement to get in to good goal scoring positions at the end of those counter attacks. People moaning cos he doesn't just sprint at defenders, when there are clear instructions for the team on when to press.
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    He does a lot of good things, but it just looks at times like he's giving only 90%. I guarantee if he was giving it the whole lot, chasing down defenders and being an overall nuisance, people wouldn't complain about him as much. He could really evate his game with a change in attitude and effort. That will always grate on supporters despite the obvious quality he has.

    He doesn't look fully at it today though. A couple of times he hasn't been able to sort his feet out. Usually, that's his strength.
     
    I actually think this has been one of Martial's better games. Hold up play has been good and he was well positioned for the two chances we had. He just did not receive the pass.
     
    Our defence and midfield have been excellent. Especially Fred. Our best player so far.

    Hopefully Rashford comes back out for the 2nd half. We need him.
     
    Greck said:
    The parts about doing more is understandable. Anything about poor link up is a lie.
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    Yeah no he's been fine on that.
    Maybe it's just he's demeanor, but he really doesn't look up for it.
    Putting defenders under pressure, hurrying defenders, getting stuck in.

    Hopefully he can have a better second half, Garnacho can't be expected to do everything.
    Antony will probably be coming on as well, not sure who will get the nod first.
     
    Not to be negative but subbing on Antony is the incorrect call.

    Needs to be Garnacho so we can counter.

    With Antony and Martial we have no counter ability and won't be able to create chances or relieve the pressure like we did in the 1st
     
    Stadjer said:
    He isnt pressing with sprinting around like a dog chasing a ball but other than that he has been decent at the hold up. Made a few runs. Could have scored a tap in if Rashford passed to him.

    He isnt having a fantastic game but Martial is fine. Far from the worst attacking player on the pitch.
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    Confirmation bias. He’s done fine. Our best chances were Rashfords and he didn’t take them. Haaland has done nothing so far.
     
    Mr Smith said:
    I agree, some over the top reactions. He's made a couple of wrong decisions on the ball but for the most part he's done his job, and actually should have received a cut-back once or twice when his teammates opted to shoot instead. He's pretty much doing everything Ten Hag would have asked of him.
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    Pretty much this. And it's also clear he isn't quite fit yet hence why he isn't breaking sprints behind and I'm sure Ten Hag is aware of that. For now he hold up and being release for our defense and midfield has served us well. All our dangerous attacks started with Martial receiving the ball and getting the guys involved, but this place will ignore that and moan without understanding context.
     
    Dannn411 said:
    I actually think this has been one of Martial's better games. Hold up play has been good and he was well positioned for the two chances we had. He just did not receive the pass.
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    He's doing all the right things but about half a second too late imo.
     
    Martial is very good with the ball at his feet, but he's obviously not pressing nor is he busting a gut to accelerate.

    This is likely fitness related but it's still a big problem.
     
    justboy68 said:
    Martial was no where near as bad as people are making out. He had a rough opening ten which set the narrative. Most of our counters after that were possible because he was doing the right thing and he linked up decently. He just lacks the intelligent movement to get in to good goal scoring positions at the end of those counter attacks. People moaning cos he doesn't just sprint at defenders, when there are clear instructions for the team on when to press.
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    Give me a break. I've specifically watched him all game and he just watches the opposite team pass the ball around them with zero urgency to press or do anything. He's beyond lazy and uninspired. In this day and age, you can't play with such a striker. Actually, in any age you can't play with such a striker. Enough with the excuses about him. He needs to be sold.
     
    Bruno has been crap. Having said that, looking forward to see him score or assist in the second half
     
    Santoryo said:
    All this bitching about Martial yet half the reason we even managed some of these attack was due to him holding the ball when released to him and letting other run past him. He's served as a release for us from the back and midfield very well. It's also pretty clear he isn't 1005 fit hence why he doesn't sprint at full pace. He was doubtful for this game.

    People just love to moan without even getting the context. Then again, typical matchday thread.
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    He has been absolutely brilliant so far. I don't really understand what could he have done better than what he did in these 45 minutes.
     
    Walters_19_MuFc said:
    No, its called having the ability to analyse a football game.
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    Sorry to report the news, but Martial hasn’t gotten out of first gear today. We have 9 other outfield players giving it everything they’ve got, with 1 playing jogging around. We all know about Martial’s ability, but ability without effort is of little use to everyone else who are putting in the effort.

    If Martial is unfit, fair enough. But there are no reports that he’s carrying an injury that we’re aware of.
     
    It’s quite clear that Martial isn’t 100% but has agreed to make himself available
     
    Makes complete sense for Martial to be hooked. He can't accelerate whatsoever and he did next to no pressing. Just half jogs.

    Probably injured.
     
    Garnacho makes perfect sense for Rashford, dunno why Antony is coming in instead.

    Edit: got it wrong, thought it was rashy off.
     
    Rashford could have blasted the ball above waist line where chances of saving without a gk in position is very less. In such cases roof of the net is the best option. Hope he can come back and is not injured.
     
    Yet again, another example of why we should have signed Gakpo but apparently we had soooo many options. Clown thinking.
     
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Fred image Fred 29% of 402 votes

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117,64,60
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  • 29% Man Utd 2:1 Man City
  • 14% Man Utd 2:2 Man City
  • 9% Man Utd 1:1 Man City
  • 8% Man Utd 1:2 Man City
  • 7% Man Utd 1:3 Man City
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  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Man City
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30% 70%
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8 5
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4 1
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1 2
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