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Manchester United 2:1 Liverpool

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Sat, 10 March 2018 @ 12:30pm GMT
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    Android1974 said:
    If you wanted to represent a 3-4-2-1 why did you put them along the centerbacks in your little drawing, though? Even so, Pogba never did that position nor Mourinho ever used that system with him there, although he did use 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2 with Pogba in central midfield.
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    Thought it would be quite obvious. My apolgies. Seeing as you are a footballing genius and tearing into everybodies lineup predictions - let's see your 'little drawing'
     
    JJ12 said:
    Thought it would be quite obvious. My apolgies. Seeing as you are a footballing genius and tearing into everybodies lineup predictions - let's see your 'little drawing'
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    Don't sulk. I'm not tearing anything, just discussing it. My guess right now is pretty boring, you don't even need a drawing, the same simple 4-3-3 of Palace's game, with doubts about McTominay or Fellaini as rightcenter #8, and also Lingard or Mata as rightwinger.
     
    Hullyback said:
    I guess you miss stats about how many shots United concede per match, as well as Dr Gea leading the shots saved statistics by a country mile. Your defense is gash and it's made to look good by a genuinely top class keeper. I don't watch United often you're right, but I can still think of about 5 fairly recent matches you'd have lost if not for him and last season there were even more. The dude is responsible for you being in second place, with (is it Romero your back up?) in place I'd bet my savings account you wouldn't even be in the top 4. If LFC had De Gea we'd be miles in front of everyone barring City. That's how much of a difference a world class (probably best in the world) keeper can make and we're stuck with Clown 1 and Clown 2.

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    You're not wrong on much of this, but most teams would look far different if you hypothesised where they would be without their best player. We at least have the reassurance that Romero is a very handy backup, and many including myself considered his performances to be superior to De Gea's last season.

    Personally, I'm quite happy with our defenders and I think our outfield defensive problems this season come from our transitions and deepest midfielders. De Gea has not been called upon to make this level of saves in seasons before. People have criticised this post-Ferguson defensive cohort for an eternity, but there's a reason why we still have a lot of defenders from the Ferguson era. They're unfashionable but actually quite functional:

    Big 6 PL goals conceded post-Ferguson:

    Liverpool 222
    Arsenal 198
    Spurs 189
    Manchester City 175
    Chelsea 171
    Manchester United 166
     
    Contrary to what people think, this game will have a few goals I reckon.
     
    Android1974 said:
    Just say you want 4-3-3 to be dropped, then everybody will understand.
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    To be honest it isn't about the formation. It's about the personnel who were used and their attitude.

    You could have the best formation in the World, but if the players being used either lack the skill level or the attitude to play hard, you won't win.
    This is why we lost in games against Huddersfield, for example. Our players had more skill. Jose's tactics were superior. But the players just weren't interested in playing hard.

    What we saw in the 2nd half at CP, was a team who was determined to win. They didn't know when to quit. And the result was that we overturned a 2-0 losing scoreline, into a win. Something which we haven't done since 2013 (I think).
     
    I think this one is quite easy to pick;

    De Gea
    Valencia Smalling Lindelof Young
    McTominay Matic Pogba
    Lingard Lukaku Sanchez

    Personally I’d be picking Shaw over Young, and I’d make the big call to drop Sanchez for Rashford, but I think Mou is less disappointed with him than some of us. Hopefully Sanchez can have a decent game tomorrow to make this thought look foolish.
     
    Both managers could easily live with a draw, so that’s my prediction. Think both teams will sit back and try and lure the other forward.
     
    Ban said:
    Obviously I'd like us to smash them. But I'd take a draw if it was offered right now.
    Defense must have a top notch performance.
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    I think we all would . I think I'll work tomorrow just to avoid the stress this game brings
     
    The midfield battle is key. Like someone mentioned we're not going up against KDB, Silva, Fernandinho here. It's can, henderson and oxlade Chamberlain. We have the better midfield by a mile and they can't be allowed to dominate us at Old Trafford. If we dominate the midfield then I can't see their attack posing any threat to us.
     
    @RobDawsonESPN

    Suggestions that Paul Pogba had to stop training today because of an injury. Will have a fitness test tomorrow to see if he can play vs Liverpool.
     
    NikSab said:
    @RobDawsonESPN

    Suggestions that Paul Pogba had to stop training today because of an injury. Will have a fitness test tomorrow to see if he can play vs Liverpool.
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    Darn. Hope he plays .
     
    Oh ffs N.O O.O. Pogba must play. Why does everything always conspire against us when we play Utd?! :mad:
     
    For me, Mata absolutely has to play. His record against Liverpool is probably the best of our entire squad.
     
    If Pogba is injured and misses tomorrow, I'll take my chances with a double pivot pairing of Carrick and Matic. Carrick can bust a lung for an hour or so then bring on Afroman or McTominay.

    I'll take the point now knowing Pogba has been downgraded to doubtful, probable at best....assuming these media reports are remotely true.
     
    Guess I'll put Lingard and Mata as starters then. Likely it'll be a double pivot of Matic and Scott.
     
    I hope the many pathetic Scouse narratives emerging from the media and rivals in wake of us facing "the neutral's team" Liverpool are put to bed tomorrow.

    Except the Pogba one. We are worse off without him but I hope it doesn't show.
     
    No pogba will be a huge loss whatever the banter boys say.

    No martial and no pogba is a worry.

    Lingard and mata will have to have big performances and mctominay will certainly need to match his best bits from the chelsea game
     
    It's crazy that apart from the rivalry, the result will be insignificant for both teams, who are certain locks for top 4, barring a gigantic collapse. May cause Klopp to throw any abandon to the winds. Don't see that happening with Mourinho though.
     
    edcunited1878 said:
    If Pogba is injured and misses tomorrow, I'll take my chances with a double pivot pairing of Carrick and Matic. Carrick can bust a lung for an hour or so then bring on Afroman or McTominay.

    I'll take the point now knowing Pogba has been downgraded to doubtful, probable at best....assuming these media reports are remotely true.
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    If Pogba is injured ( :smirk: ) and Jose has already said Fellaini is fit to play, I think he will start..
     
    whatwha said:
    Are you serious?
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    You seriously can't see how shit he's been this season because you support your club and the narrative that Pogba is world class. He might have shown glimpses of being world class, mainly in Italy, but he causes Utd endless headaches for midfield set up. Again, I won't expect you to see this and long may it continue.

    He likes space and zero defending, which is a paradox in a Jose team. With him out Utd's midfield will be a lot more solid which we could do without.
     
    No Pogba?? Well that's bad news but surely that means 3 at the back. Fellaini should NOT start and I think McTominay and Matic alone will be outnumbered by Liverpool's midfield. My guess now is:
    DDG
    Bailly Smalling Lindelof
    Valencia Matic McTominay Young
    Lingard
    Lukaku Sanchez

    Not too bad but still would've been better with Pogba.
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    Dumbstar said:
    You seriously can't see how shit he's been this season because you support your club and the narrative that Pogba is world class. He might have shown glimpses of being world class, mainly in Italy, but he causes Utd endless headaches for midfield set up. Again, I won't expect you to see this and long may it continue.

    He likes space and zero defending, which is a paradox in a Jose team. With him out Utd's midfield will be a lot more solid which we could do without.
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    He's in a slump and lacked confidence recently. But the narrative that we're better off without him is false. It is demonstrably untrue since he joined us.

    Liverpool wums and their excuses.
    "Without DDG youse are mid table"
    "Wahhh Pogba isn't playing so that puts Liverpool at a disadvantage... wahhh"

    Everything always conspires against your club right?
     
    Dumbstar said:
    You seriously can't see how shit he's been this season because you support your club and the narrative that Pogba is world class. He might have shown glimpses of being world class, mainly in Italy, but he causes Utd endless headaches for midfield set up. Again, I won't expect you to see this and long may it continue.

    He likes space and zero defending, which is a paradox in a Jose team. With him out Utd's midfield will be a lot more solid which we could do without.
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    I'm not his biggest fan, so it's not like I'm blind to his faults. But I can also appreciate his qualities.

    How many of United's games do you watch?

    And it's not like our other alternatives in midfield are any better. You can't seriously claim you'd be more apprehensive of facing old man Carrick or McTominay compared to Pogba.
     
    whatwha said:
    I'm not his biggest fan, so it's not like I'm blind to his faults. But I can also appreciate his qualities.

    How many of United's games do you watch?

    And it's not like our other alternatives in midfield are any better. You can't seriously claim you'd be more apprehensive of facing old man Carrick or McTominay compared to Pogba.
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    Liverpool fans for you. We lose one of our most important players and it disadvantages them. True delusion. Or plain wumming. No fanbase is more irritating.
     
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  • 23% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
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  • 12% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
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  • 6% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
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5 14
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