Inigo Montoya
Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!
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Looks like a 6th former telling a year 7 that he’ll give him a quid if he runs up and chats up that bird!Mason Greenwood and Pogba seen in training.
Looks like a 6th former telling a year 7 that he’ll give him a quid if he runs up and chats up that bird!Mason Greenwood and Pogba seen in training.
Uniteds record in Turkey has been poor for decades, most annoying thing was gifting them two goals. To only need 4 points from the last 3 games is still a decent position to be in from what is the group of death in this seasons Champions league.So assuming we win this game (obviously no guarantee after the last one), we'll need 1 draw from the last 2 games, regardless of the other result. Annoying that we put ourselves in this situation by losing to the worst team in the competition.
Agree, mate. The flip side is, if we lose, we undo all the work we did in the first two games and likely need 4 points against RBL and PSG. This really is a must-win game.Uniteds record in Turkey has been poor for decades, most annoying thing was gifting them two goals. To only need 4 points from the last 3 games is still a decent position to be in from what is the group of death in this seasons Champions league.
This is the way.We shall lose this game then win the next games against PSG and RBL.
And then fail to break them down, lose 0-1 and make the PSG and Leipzig wins redundant as we crash out in bottom spot in a few weeks time.Good game to use the squad I think.
----------------------------Henderson
AWB--------Tuanzebe-------Maguire--------Telles
-------------------McT----------Pogba
------Greenwood---------VDB---------James
-------------------------------Martial
We will regardless fail to break down any team that is remotely close to a well organized outfit at OT.And then fail to break them down, lose 0-1 and make the PSG and Leipzig wins redundant as we crash out in bottom spot in a few weeks time.
This is a ridiculous idea. We have to play a strong team to win tonight and go through. If you want to rest players in important CL games, we might as well play in the Europa like Arsenal.
Playing push-and-run Dan James over Rashford, lazy Pogba over Bruno and off-form Martial over Cavani sure isn’t going to helpWe will regardless fail to break down any team that is remotely close to a well organized outfit at OT.
We gotta rotate at some point, and the side posted is strong, maybe James out for Rashford.And then fail to break them down, lose 0-1 and make the PSG and Leipzig wins redundant as we crash out in bottom spot in a few weeks time.
This is a ridiculous idea. We have to play a strong team to win tonight and go through. If you want to rest players in important CL games, we might as well play in the Europa like Arsenal.
My main gripes were James and Pogba. James for obvious reasons, and Pogba because I think it’s clear by now that he just does not want to play for Manchester United. Also, if we have to rotate, surely Martial has to be dropped for Cavani. He’s the one who’s started the season the worst out of anyone in the squad bar Pogba.We gotta rotate at some point, and the side posted is strong, maybe James out for Rashford.
Martial has had plenty of rest though so not the one rotated and needs to get into form, I do agree regarding pogba, but I’m hopeful he will at least play for a transfer next summer.My main gripes were James and Pogba. James for obvious reasons, and Pogba because I think it’s clear by now that he just does not want to play for Manchester United. Also, if we have to rotate, surely Martial has to be dropped for Cavani. He’s the one who’s started the season the worst out of anyone in the squad bar Pogba.
Of course he has but we have an experienced pro on the bench with more career goals than we can count, chomping at the bit to take the place of an off-form Martial. Surely after Martial’s recent games, he has to be dropped? WBA ought to have been the game where he regained form. He was awful.Martial has had plenty of rest though so not the one rotated and needs to get into form, I do agree regarding pogba, but I’m hopeful he will at least play for a transfer next summer.
It’s very annoying. I would have preferred a super defensive team going for a draw in the last match. I’ve never understood the priority to reach top4 and advance to next season’s CL, over the CL that is taking place right now.So assuming we win this game (obviously no guarantee after the last one), we'll need 1 draw from the last 2 games, regardless of the other result. Annoying that we put ourselves in this situation by losing to the worst team in the competition.
We should really be able to beat Istanbul with that lineup. It also ensures that we don't have players like Bruno struggling for fitness in games where we will need him more. The side you quoted isn't exactly a very weak team either. - It has Pogba, VDB, Martial, Greenwood, Maguire, Telles, etc. Players who should technically be good enough to outplay Istanbul.And then fail to break them down, lose 0-1 and make the PSG and Leipzig wins redundant as we crash out in bottom spot in a few weeks time.
This is a ridiculous idea. We have to play a strong team to win tonight and go through. If you want to rest players in important CL games, we might as well play in the Europa like Arsenal.
Good game to use the squad I think.
----------------------------Henderson
AWB--------Tuanzebe-------Maguire--------Telles
-------------------McT----------Pogba
------Greenwood---------VDB---------James
-------------------------------Martial
Aye, but this is Istanbul mate, both teams will be parked up in their half for most of the game so I think he can play in a midfield two in a game like this one.Pogba has to be played in an attacking position, we need to make him look good in order to sell him. He's awful in a 2 let's be honest.
Team I would play is:
Henderson
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Bruno McT VdB
Greenwood Cavani Rashford.
No Dan James unless we have no other options. I love him as he’s a good lad, but he is just not good enough to play for us.
Was thinking about that for sure, but I just can’t bear to see him strolling around the halfway line without a care in the world anymore, playing the odd worldie Hollywood ball but largely giving it away and not tracking back. As we all say, his head is already in Madrid or Turin.Would go with this but Pogba for Bruno.
Ties are broken on head to head results, not GD. We are almost certainly going to have the head to head advantage over Leipzig, and likely over PSG as well given our two away goals.When you try to forecast what will be the potential results, you see that we lost a huge game at Istanbul.
If we win and PSG beat Leipzig tomorrow, the table will be :
United 9
PSG 6
Leipzig 6
Istanbul 3
Then, we receive PSG, worst case scenario, we lose and Leipzig beating Istanbul, meaning :
PSG 9
United 9
Leipzig 9
Istanbul 3
With the last game to play at Leipzig, with PSG hosting Istanbul, meaning a point away will qualify us thanks to our goal difference (currently +5 and Leipzig -2)
PSG 12
United 10
Leipzig 10
Istanbul 3
Must win.
We can start with a weakened team, but if we're not leading before 50 minutes then we must throw in the big guns ASAP.
We are on top in our group, but have fecked our chances???Goes without saying we need to win but I think we fecked our chances with that game in Turkey
Ovidiu Hategan