Manchester United 4:1 Istanbul Basaksehir

jderbyshire · Nov 22, 2020

Think we'll see some rotation, but we've gotta win this really to make up for the defeat in Istanbul.

Could see something like this:

Henderson
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
McTominay Fred
Van De Beek Fernandes
Cavani Martial

Although I'd like to see Williams given a chance at right back to provide more attacking width.

sunama · Nov 22, 2020

Need to get a penalty if we are to beat these guys.

croadyman · Nov 23, 2020

Yeah our performances just feel meh at the moment and need to pick it up considerably

Strelok · Nov 23, 2020

jderbyshire said:
Think we'll see some rotation, but we've gotta win this really to make up for the defeat in Istanbul.

Could see something like this:

Henderson
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
McTominay Fred
Van De Beek Fernandes
Cavani Martial

Although I'd like to see Williams given a chance at right back to provide more attacking width.

I want to see Williams as well, this match is a perfect opportunity for him to get some game time, and rest Telles for the weekend.

And please don't start Bruno, we really need to manage him carefully.

Imo:
Henderson
Wan Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Williams
McTominay
Van De Beek Pogba
Greenwood Cavani James

This side should be enough I think.

SATA · Nov 23, 2020

They are a worse team than West Bromwich so i think we'll win 2-0. Maybe 3 if we get another penalty

Member 90887 · Nov 23, 2020

I feel that we will destroy them. We are always meh after international breaks, we got that game out of the way with a win so that's good.

Hopefuly we return to form in this game and can kick on for the rest of the season.

We are not far in the league as well, people are raving about Jose but win our game in hand (which we should) and we are 4 points of first with one of our worst starts ever.

Footy van de Geek · Nov 23, 2020

Cavani

Rashford--------vdB-----------James

Fred-----McTominay

Williams-----Maguire----Tuanzebe----AWB

De Gea

2-0 win. I'd rest Bruno and Telles for Southampton. Bruno can always come on if needed. Martial need to be dropped for a game or two. Let's see what Cavani can do. I'd give James a start after his good performance for Wales last week. He might be more confident after that. We'll need a better performance from Tuanzebe this time if he does start. That was a shitshow in Istanbul a few weeks ago.

Lay · Nov 23, 2020

SATA said:
They are a worse team than West Bromwich so i think we'll win 2-0. Maybe 3 if we get another penalty

Not too sure about that

Havak · Nov 23, 2020

We get 5 Subs in these games, so I'm not sure they'll be a massive amount of changes.

Depends on who's back and fit also, as the only changes I can see are maybe Tuanzebe for Lindelof, McTominay or Donny for Matic, Greenwood for Mata etc.

I'd like to see:

de Gea
Wan-Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred
van de Beek Bruno
Greenwood Cavani Rashford

Hopefully subbing off Wan-Bissaka, Fred, Bruno, Rashford, Telles to wrap them up for the Southampton game if we can put another home win on the record.

jderbyshire · Nov 23, 2020

SATA said:
They are a worse team than West Bromwich so i think we'll win 2-0. Maybe 3 if we get another penalty

"If" we get a penalty :lol:

good one.

Gasolin · Nov 23, 2020

Yagami said:
Surprised at the line-ups here. Bruno will surely play. Not only because it's a must win, but I'm sure he's one of those players who's never happy to sit on the bench. I don't think Ole will take this game for granted and leave him out.

We have to rotate him, and Ole will make this point clear. We need a strong midfield of Bruno/Fred/Scott against Southampton to counter press quickly and create occasions. And for that, we need Bruno to rest.

Gasolin · Nov 23, 2020

Lay said:
Not too sure about that

Why? We had 7 shots on target against WBA, and we only score a penalty, which means that the keeper did 6 or 7 saves. Even if we score 33% of them, it's already 3:0. More likely to be 4:0. We will be fine as long as we create occasions to shoot on target, as we did against WBA, and finish them off this time.

Chaky_Best · Nov 23, 2020

Unfortunately since we lost the first game, we absolutely need to play our (supposed) strongest XI here. Our players are absolutely tired and I don't see how we can rotate now since we still have two huge game against PSG and Leipzig after this one, and we are far away in the PL.

My team :

De Gea

Wan Bissaka
Maguire
Lindelof
Telles

Mc Tominay
Fred

Mata
Bruno
Rashford

Martial

TrustInJanuzaj · Nov 23, 2020

Wouldn’t mind him playing Pogba on the wing again. A front three of:
Greenwood-Cavani-Pogba

groovyalbert · Nov 23, 2020

If we win this, and assuming PSG beat RBL, what would we need from our remaining fixtures to go through?

Would that be a case of not losing by more than 5 v RBL when we play them?

Hughes35 · Nov 23, 2020

Think we will fly out of the block in this one.

We have to avenge the previous result, so I think the players will be really up for it and play right at the top of their game. 1-0 Fernandes (pen).

McGrathsipan · Nov 23, 2020

Red00012 said:
First real test for Ole

this is not funny any more!

McGrathsipan · Nov 23, 2020

Hughes35 said:
Think we will fly out of the block in this one.

We have to avenge the previous result, so I think the players will be really up for it and play right at the top of their game. 1-0 Fernandes (pen).

When is the last time United flew out of the blocks against anyone.

This shower are worse than WBA probably but we will make them look like prime Barca.

DWelbz19 · Nov 23, 2020

Cavani will bag in this one

Bestietom · Nov 23, 2020

I don't think Ole will take any chances. He will play his strongest team.

Wilt · Nov 23, 2020

Hughes35 said:
Think we will fly out of the block in this one.

We have to avenge the previous result, so I think the players will be really up for it and play right at the top of their game. 1-0 Fernandes (pen).

AngeloHenriquez · Nov 23, 2020

Pogba and Cavani need minutes, we need a strong lineup as well though thanks to losing the last game against them, I would go with:

Henderson (needs outings)
Williams Axel Maguire Telles
Mctominay
Bruno VDB
Greenwood Cavani Pogba

Chaky_Best · Nov 23, 2020

groovyalbert said:
If we win this, and assuming PSG beat RBL, what would we need from our remaining fixtures to go through?

Would that be a case of not losing by more than 5 v RBL when we play them?

When you try to forecast what will be the potential results, you see that we lost a huge game at Istanbul.

If we win and PSG beat Leipzig tomorrow, the table will be :

United 9
PSG 6
Leipzig 6
Istanbul 3

Then, we receive PSG, worst case scenario, we lose and Leipzig beating Istanbul, meaning :

PSG 9
United 9
Leipzig 9
Istanbul 3

With the last game to play at Leipzig, with PSG hosting Istanbul, meaning a point away will qualify us thanks to our goal difference (currently +5 and Leipzig -2)

PSG 12
United 10
Leipzig 10
Istanbul 3

Inigo Montoya · Nov 23, 2020

Chaky_Best said:
When you try to forecast what will be the potential results, you see that we lost a huge game at Istanbul.

If we win and PSG beat Leipzig tomorrow, the table will be :

United 9
PSG 6
Leipzig 6
Istanbul 3

Then, we receive PSG, worst case scenario, we lose and Leipzig beating Istanbul, meaning :

PSG 9
United 9
Leipzig 9
Istanbul 3

With the last game to play at Leipzig, with PSG hosting Istanbul, meaning a point away will qualify us thanks to our goal difference (currently +5 and Leipzig -2)

PSG 12
United 10
Leipzig 10
Istanbul 3

I think there’s a draw in there somewhere for us.

10 points seals it but it’d be great to win the group

Meep · Nov 23, 2020

Cavani
Rashford Pogba Greenwood
McT Fred
Telles Maguire Tuanzebe AWB

Goalz..
VDB for Rashford
Bruno for Pogba
Martial for Cavani

Defs..
Matic for McT
Lindelof for Cavani
Bruno for Pogba

VP89 · Nov 23, 2020

Chaky_Best said:
When you try to forecast what will be the potential results, you see that we lost a huge game at Istanbul.

If we win and PSG beat Leipzig tomorrow, the table will be :

United 9
PSG 6
Leipzig 6
Istanbul 3

Then, we receive PSG, worst case scenario, we lose and Leipzig beating Istanbul, meaning :

PSG 9
United 9
Leipzig 9
Istanbul 3

With the last game to play at Leipzig, with PSG hosting Istanbul, meaning a point away will qualify us thanks to our goal difference (currently +5 and Leipzig -2)

PSG 12
United 10
Leipzig 10
Istanbul 3

Cheers. Think if we win tonight and manage PSG with a draw we will be good to go. It's doable, PSG look like a team starting their campaign slow.

wolvored · Nov 23, 2020

Don't know how he will line up probably be a max of 3 changes, but any team he puts out should be able to beat them easily, otherwise we are in the wrong competition. 3-0 I'll go for with the goals coming in the last 15 mins. Istanbul was a freak game and we won't ever defend like that again

Gator Nate · Nov 23, 2020

DeGea
AWB - Tuanzebe - Maguire - Telles
Fred
VdB - Pogba
Bruno
Martial - Rashford

Subs: He's got five. Everyone gets to play.

It's supposed to be a 4-4-2 diamond, but it's really a 5-3-2. 2-0 for lead in the group, only need a draw after this to advance.

theklr · Nov 23, 2020

Luckily we are playing at home and 5 days until the next fixture so he doesnt need to take to much consideration of rotation.

joedirt87 · Nov 23, 2020

At least we know exactly how Istanbul will play. No excuses this time. Will really have to question Ole if we let them beat us the same way.

Gator Nate · Nov 23, 2020

joedirt87 said:
At least we know exactly how Istanbul will play. No excuses this time. Will really have to question Ole if we let them beat us the same way.

Ole won't let them beat us the same way. He's much more creative than that. And our players are, too. There are SO many other ways we can lose. :lol:

Seriously, though, I don't expect us to lose this time. I don't even expect us to let Istanbul into it.

bosnian_red · Nov 23, 2020

So assuming we win this game (obviously no guarantee after the last one), we'll need 1 draw from the last 2 games, regardless of the other result. Annoying that we put ourselves in this situation by losing to the worst team in the competition.

Inigo Montoya · Nov 23, 2020

bosnian_red said:
So assuming we win this game (obviously no guarantee after the last one), we'll need 1 draw from the last 2 games, regardless of the other result. Annoying that we put ourselves in this situation by losing to the worst team in the competition.

No that was Arsenal

Nicoseth · Nov 23, 2020

We seem to be able to turn it on in the CL (last game apart). Revenge will be on the agenda - 4-0. Cavani to start and score hopefully.

dal · Nov 23, 2020

Bruno badly needs a rest so that means Ole will play him 100 percent.

hence I’ll go with:

————————DDG
AWB—Tuanzebe-Maguire-Telles
—————Mctominay—Fred———
—————————Bruno
Greenwood——-Cavani——Pogba

Mibabalou · Nov 23, 2020

Rest Bruno please!

We should have enough with VDB to beat them.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Nov 23, 2020

Mason Greenwood and Pogba seen in training.

Ollie Derbyshire · Nov 23, 2020

Think we can rest and rotate in this one,

.............Henderson
AWB...Lindelof...Maguire....Telles
.................Fred
........VdB......Pogba
Mason....Cavani.....Martial

Bruno, Rashford, James to come of the bench if needed.

RedDevil@84 · Nov 23, 2020

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Mason Greenwood and Pogba seen in training.

Yes, time to bring our bench players in

jamesjimmybyrondean · Nov 23, 2020

Henderson
Awb Lindelof Maguire Telles
Pogba Fred
Greenwood VDB Martial
Cavani

I think we will dominate and beat them easily

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