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Manchester United 2:0 Crystal Palace

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    GailWynand said:
    So were Wes Brown, Fletcher and O'Shea. I am not saying he is great but he's not the worst; At least he is consistent.
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    No they weren't. They were decent first teamers. Even good actually. They were exceptional youth players. Fergie was considering playing Fletcher at 16. McTominay is barely a decent u23 player. He isn't even close to the 3 of them and it's madnesses to suggest he is. He literally is the worst of the lot and probably one of the worst players to be an u23 regular in recent years. And consistent based on what? Where have you pulled that from?
     
    I'd be amazed if Rooney didn't come on after an hour. Should get a great reception. Shame De Gea won't get anything like that.
     
    limerickcitykid said:
    No they weren't. They were decent first teamers. Even good actually. They were exceptional youth players. Fergie was considering playing Fletcher at 16. McTominay is barely a decent u23 player. He isn't even close to the 3 of them and it's madnesses to suggest he is. He literally is the worst of the lot and probably one of the worst players to be an u23 regular in recent years.
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    He's been in the squad for a while now. I think you're being harsh, the kid is decent. I am excited for the match whatever the outcome. I'm not comparing them btw, they all made it from the academy/reserves and weren't considered to be the brightest in terms of what the academy had produced before. Lingard for one, decent squad player but not considered by a few.
     
    :23KEY EVENT
    Has Fosu Mensah given a team news hint?
    He was snapchatting from home last night which could mean he’s had an injury set back. Or it could mean that the squad didn’t follow usual routine and didn’t stay at the Lowry hotel before the game.

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    DomesticTadpole said:
    :23KEY EVENT
    Has Fosu Mensah given a team news hint?
    He was snapchatting from home last night which could mean he’s had an injury set back. Or it could mean that the squad didn’t follow usual routine and didn’t stay at the Lowry hotel before the game.

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    Is that Bailly with him, or his dad? :nervous:
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    :23KEY EVENT
    Has Fosu Mensah given a team news hint?
    He was snapchatting from home last night which could mean he’s had an injury set back. Or it could mean that the squad didn’t follow usual routine and didn’t stay at the Lowry hotel before the game.

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    From DailyMail today

    Due to the youthful nature of his squad and the potential for pre-match nerves, Mourinho has altered United’s normal routine. Instead of staying at the Lowry Hotel, as they usually do for the night before home games, players have been encouraged to stay with their families.
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    GailWynand said:
    He's been in the squad for a while now. I think you're being harsh, the kid is decent. I am excited for the match whatever the outcome. I'm not comparing them btw, they all made it from the academy/reserves and weren't considered to be the brightest in terms of what the academy had produced before. Lingard for one, decent squad player but not considered by a few.
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    He has been in the squad because our squad is thin and our u23s are packed with below average players none of which are actually good enough to ever have a chance of making it.
    What? Brown was rated ridiculously high, he won youth player of the year two years in a row. As I said fergie wanted to play fletcher but he was like legally too young or something. Fletcher and O'Shea both won reserve player of the year. Lingard was also highly rated in the academy his size was just alway an issue. McTominay isn't in the same class as any of these. It isn't even close. There is no way you have watched McTominay regularly and then seriously just tried to put him in a bracket with fletcher and brown. He isn't even comparable to someone like Ben Pearson.

    And you keep saying decent and consistent but not what it is actually based on.
     
    So as I understand it, none of Willock, Harrop, Mitchell, McTominay, or Dearnley is rated highly?

    Gomes is a great talent but only 16 and 'needs to bulk up'?
     
    limerickcitykid said:
    He has been in the squad because our squad is thin and our u23s are packed with below average players none of which are actually good enough to ever have a chance of making it.
    What? Brown was rated ridiculously high, he won youth player of the year two years in a row. As I said fergie wanted to play fletcher but he was like legally too young or something. Fletcher and O'Shea both won reserve player of the year. Lingard was also highly rated in the academy his size was just alway an issue. McTominay isn't in the same class as any of these. It isn't even close. There is no way you have watched McTominay regularly and then seriously just tried to put him in a bracket with fletcher and brown. He isn't even comparable to someone like Ben Pearson.

    And you keep saying decent and consistent but not what it is actually based on.
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    Read what I wrote again before ranting; I'm not comparing them. fwiw, I hope he starts today. You can't be in the United reserve set-up being woeful - he's not that great but the picture you're painting is trash. I just said he's one to look out for in my opinion and so it stands.
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    So as I understand it, none of Willock, Harrop, Mitchell, McTominay, or Dearnley is rated highly?

    Gomes is a great talent but only 16 and 'needs to bulk up'?
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    Harrop has great technique and ability but is small so it'll depend on how he can cope with first team football.
    Demi was a very highly rated winger but suffered a lot of injuries and been pushed back to LB. great attacking but we'll see how he develops defensively. He has potential.
    Dearnley also suffered a lot of injuries but rated quite highly and is a direct winger.
    Willock decent bit of skill sometimes but not good enough.
    McTominay not good enough either.
     
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    GailWynand said:
    Read what I wrote again before ranting; I'm not comparing them. fwiw, I hope he starts today. You can't be in the United reserve set-up being woeful - he's not that great but the picture you're painting is trash. I just said he's one to look out for in my opinion and so it stands.
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    Cus you're talking absolute bollocks. There have been many in our set up who are woeful at first team level. He isn't one to look out for no matter how much you say it. You clearly have never even watched him play.
     
    The squad didn't stay at the Lowry
    Willock was Instagramming from home last night. The squad didn’t have their usual pre match stay at the Lowry.

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    Cathy Ferguson said:
    So as I understand it, none of Willock, Harrop, Mitchell, McTominay, or Dearnley is rated highly?

    Gomes is a great talent but only 16 and 'needs to bulk up'?
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    Along with Gomes, I rate Harrop incredibly high. I like Willock and Mitchell as well, and think there's a slim chance they're good enough to make it, but Harrop's on a different level, in my opinion.

    McTominay is average and I haven't seen enough of Dearnley to comment.

    Well, basically what @limerickcitykid said!
     
    I'm guessing we'll start with 3 senior players: Bailly, Pogba and Lingard. Tuanzebe and TFM are the semi-seniors. Rest all reserves.

    Carrick and Rooney to come on at some stage.
     
    Ixion said:
    I'd be amazed if Rooney didn't come on after an hour. Should get a great reception. Shame De Gea won't get anything like that.
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    That's what I think, too.
    UNLESS, he is being saved for the EL Final!
     
    limerickcitykid said:
    Cus you're talking absolute bollocks. There have been many in our set up who are woeful at first team level. He isn't one to look out for no matter how much you say it. You clearly have never even watched him play.
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    He is so in my opinion. I disagree ofc and I admit I haven't seen him 'live' but that doesn't mean anything: more like an opportunity for you to gloat; He's a kid who has impressed me from what little I've seen of him, but you sound like someone who knows exactly how a youngsters career is going to pan out so do continue your tirade. He's not that rubbish no matter how much you spout nonsense.
     
    Strange the team didn't stay at the hotel, I gather that would've improved the younsters experience of this game overall.
     
    SirMattBugsby said:
    True, but I felt one of him or Rooney might play today. I'm not sure José will play a front four of only youth.
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    I think Rooney will start and that he'll be subbed off to a well deserved standing ovation after 60 minutes. A true United legend even though he has been in decline for the last couple of seasons.
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    So as I understand it, none of Willock, Harrop, Mitchell, McTominay, or Dearnley is rated highly?

    Gomes is a great talent but only 16 and 'needs to bulk up'?
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    A 16 year old "bulking up" :eek:
    A 16 year old should be growing into a man, without being forced to "bulk up" unless he is entering a bodybuilding competition.

    More generally, the ideal footballer should be lean/slim/light and waif like. Ronaldo (and Maradona before him) is probably the only top footballer on the planet carries a lot of muscle. The other 99.9999999% of top footballers, do best when slim or playing at their natural bodyweight....cue the Rooney/fat jokes
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    I think Rooney will start and that he'll be subbed off to a well deserved standing ovation after 60 minutes. A true United legend even though he has been in decline for the last couple of seasons.
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    This would be logical, but since when has Jose followed logic?
     
    sunama said:
    A 16 year old "bulking up" :eek:
    A 16 year old should be growing into a man, without being forced to "bulk up" unless he is entering a bodybuilding competition.

    More generally, the ideal footballer should be lean/slim/light and waif like. Ronaldo (and Maradona before him) is probably the only top footballer on the planet carries a lot of muscle. The other 99.9999999% of top footballers, do best when slim.
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    I was being ironic in the sense that a few 16 year olds are physically mature (Rooney and Torres) for instance, but that some need many more years to develop. Gomes seems to be in the latter category.
     
    sunama said:
    McTominay probably is decent. But should a decent footballer ever play for MUFC first team?
    I want great!
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    Agreed, was excited to see our options in CM/CAM for this one. Never called him great - just one to look out for as he's developing well.
     
    Cathy Ferguson said:
    So as I understand it, none of Willock, Harrop, Mitchell, McTominay, or Dearnley is rated highly?

    Gomes is a great talent but only 16 and 'needs to bulk up'?
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    Dearnley and Mitchell are highly rated. Harrop is pretty good too.
     
    sunama said:
    This would be logical, but since when has Jose followed logic?
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    He doesn't want or can't afford to be blamed for Rooney's departure. Giving him a farewell would be his decision. There's your logic.
     
    12:53
    Defence leaked?
    According to the Mail, the back five will be Joel Pereira, Demetri Mitchell, Timothy Fosu-Mensah, Eric Bailly and Axel Tuanzebe.

    That would make sense ahead of Wednesday’s final.

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    12:58SAMUEL LUCKHURST
    No squad numbers released so far
    There is no indication of squad numbers for players like Dearnley, Gomes, Harrop or O’Hara, which has frustrated some United employees who want to compile the team news graphic for the game.

    What seems likely is the back four will comprise of two teenagers in Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe. Chris Smalling nor Eric Bailly trained on Friday and Phil Jones will almost certainly not be risked, so there could be a possible defensive dilemma at centre half today.

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