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Manchester United 0:3 Bournemouth

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  • Defence and conceding goals has got far worst under Amorim.
    EPL, League Cup & Europa....

    ETH - 13 games 16 goals conceded - 1.23 goals/game
    Amorim - 9 games 17 conceded - 1.88 goals/game

    Approx. 50% worst.


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    How many seasons did ETH have? Whose players are these? JFC is your brain that tiny you can't even think on a larger context?
     
    Once again, two goals in as many minutes. This is not bad luck but crap defending. We need half the team replacing but no money to do it.
     
    Which is why I asked you earlier if this team, player for player, is good enough to beat Bournemouth. If the answer is yes, then regardless of who the manager is, we should be winning. Certainly not losing 3 nil, anyway.
    I would say this team is good enough to beat Bournemouth 55% of the time. Unfortunately, today was that other 45%.
     
    Same crap we saw under ETH, poor final third. Stupid defensive errors. Players out muscled on the pitch
     
    You might as well talk to a dog than post facts like that on here
    The stats don't tell the whole story, do they?
    If most of our creativity stems from one player (which it does), then we live and die off his performances.
    It's a risk and reward thing.
    Bruno has no composure and has been like this for most of his career.
    Difference is he could finish his dinner for the first 18 months, and now he can't score like he used to.
    It's worth considering selling him before he burns out (he's nearly 30), and invest that into someone who doesn't keep giving the ball so needlessly away.
     
    He really shouldn't be taking them. It is a bit like he doesn't get to take freekicks to much for Portugal, so is trying to do everything here instead.

    Indeed. The other side has now been taken over by Amad which is day and night compared to his, We might as well take short corners if we have no one better than Bruno.
     
    Defence and conceding goals has got far worst under Amorim.
    EPL, League Cup & Europa....

    ETH - 13 games 16 goals conceded - 1.23 goals/game
    Amorim - 9 games 17 conceded - 1.88 goals/game

    Approx. 50% worst.


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    He is implementing a new system.

    Ten hag had two years and a huge number of signings and that was the best he could come up with
     
    It was quite obvious to begin with that fitting our players into a 343 wpuld be more challenging than a 433. Hopefully it will work out in the end but it could be a really painful next 6 months
     
    The stats don't tell the whole story, do they?
    If most of our creativity stems from one player (which it does), then we live and die off his performances.
    It's a risk and reward thing.
    Bruno has no composure and has been like this for most of his career.
    Difference is he could finish his dinner for the first 18 months, and now he can't score like he used to.
    It's worth considering selling him before he burns out (he's nearly 30), and invest that into someone who doesn't keep giving the ball so needlessly away.
    So you want to go from being reliant on the best chance creator in the league (this and pretty much every other season he's been here) to being reliant on a combination of the players we have (who create nowhere near as much) and a player you can't name.
     
    It was quite obvious to begin with that fitting our players into a 343 wpuld be more challenging than a 433. Hopefully it will work out in the end but it could be a really painful next 6 months
    It is what it is. This season is a write-off. Have to look to next season now.
     
    Same crap we saw under ETH, poor final third. Stupid defensive errors. Players out muscled on the pitch
    Spot on. Doesn’t seem to make any difference how big or small they are. No strength in any of them. This team needs a complete make over but the coffers are empty.
     
    Reverse back to a back 4.
    Why the feck would we bring in Amorim ? It’s the same old shite then. We’ll have to endure the rest of the season since Amorim wasn’t given a full preseason with the squad and had no say in recruitment. If the players can’t or won’t adapt to his demands then sell them.
     
    Mazraoui effectively snuffed any chance we had of getting something out of this game. 0-1 we can nick a goal, it’s doable. 0-2 and we need a miracle. Heads drop, suddenly we’re 3 down. Game over.
     
    No logical analysis yeah?


    Do you actually watch our matches or just read stats ? But yeah by your logic what an error SAF made by getting rid of RVN, Beckham, Keane, Ince, Hughes, Kanchelkis all vastly superior players to Bruno and actual title winners.
     
    Defence and conceding goals has got far worst under Amorim.
    EPL, League Cup & Europa....

    ETH - 13 games 16 goals conceded - 1.23 goals/game
    Amorim - 9 games 17 conceded - 1.88 goals/game

    Approx. 50% worst.


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    I agree with the concern about Amorim. I was very skeptical before he started at the club and I don't see that we have got a clearer or improved tactic with him. I understand that it is still early days and he should have a fair chance. But I'm really worried.
     
    What’s the point of 5 subs if you don’t use them…
    Yeah I thought that was weird. Down 3-0 and players like Mainoo / Mazroui gassed and not having a good game. Maybe give Collyer his debut or Antony another shot?
     
    So you want to go from being reliant on the best chance creator in the league (this and pretty much every other season he's been here) to being reliant on a combination of the players we have (who create nowhere near as much) and a player you can't name.
    I thought this might be said regarding a 'player I can't name'.
    I'm not a scout mate, however I did suggest we go for Olise though a couple of years ago though and that prediction did turn out great I must say!

    However I don't think it will be very easy to replace him but him being the centre piece of our team is a massive issue.
    Another option, rather than buying one creative player to replace him is to buy two, or buy one and buy a striker who can actually get into good positions *and* finish them.
    Spend our money on cheaper but smarter options than investing in one player would be the way to go.
     
    Do you actually watch our matches or just read stats ? But yeah by your logic what an error SAF made by getting rid of RVN, Beckham, Keane, Ince, Hughes, Kanchelkis all vastly superior players to Bruno and actual title winners.
    Bruno can produce some great stuff like the cutback to Amad today. But, his decision-making and finishing in the final third is not consistently good enough right now. Too many misses that someone of his quality should be putting in. I’m not in favor of getting rid though. Sell Erickson and bring in another creative mid to push him.
     
    I agree with the concern about Amorim. I was very skeptical before he started at the club and I don't see that we have got a clearer or improved tactic with him. I understand that it is still early days and he should have a fair chance. But I'm really worried.

    Previous responders to my post may think I'm having a pop at Amorim.
    I'm not !
    It's early days and he has a huge set of problems on his hands, but the stats don't look good at the moment and are getting worst, game by game.

    In the PL, despite our poor results and league position, we had the joint 3rd best defensive record, based on goals conceded, until only a few weeks ago.
    We're now sliding down that particular pecking order.

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    My wife just said, who is an equestrian and not into football:

    “You can’t turn donkeys into race horses. You can put a bad jockey on a great horse and it’ll win. You can’t put a great jockey on a donkey and expect a result.”

    Let Amorim do the clear out we so badly need.
     
    Why didn't you prefer a 25 year old R9?

    He was equally as likely to sign for us before last season as Levy was to sell us Kane.
    Well...it was more like I felt Hojlund wasn't the right fit. His stats from his previous club was nothing to shout about and I feel that we need someone more proven as the lack of goal was glaring for us. Until we can get a proven striker, someone with possible potential is just not enough.
     
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Score Predictions

128,16,16
  • Man Utd win
  • Bournemouth win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 29% Man Utd 2:1 Bournemouth
  • 18% Man Utd 2:0 Bournemouth
  • 15% Man Utd 3:1 Bournemouth
  • 9% Man Utd 3:0 Bournemouth
  • 6% Man Utd 2:2 Bournemouth
  • 4% Man Utd 1:1 Bournemouth
  • 4% Man Utd 0:1 Bournemouth
  • 3% Man Utd 4:0 Bournemouth
  • 3% Man Utd 1:2 Bournemouth
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 1:0 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 0:4 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 2:6 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 Bournemouth
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Bournemouth
Overall possession
60% 40%
Shots
23 10
Shots on target
7 5
Total touches in the box
45 15
Goalkeeper saves
2 7
Fouls
11 11
Corners
13 1

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Craig Pawson