Champions League Group F

Manchester United 3:2 Atalanta

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Wed, 20 October 2021 @ 8:00pm BST
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    I’d go with:

    DDG
    Bailly Lindelof Shaw
    Wan-Bissaka Matic Telles
    Bruno VdB
    Greenwood Ronaldo

    A 3-1-4-2, if you like. Maguire and Pogba were our worst players on Saturday, and both haven’t been too great this season as well aside from Pogba’s first 4 games. When Ole says something needs to give, I’d hope it would be underperforming players dropping out, the 4-2-3-1 getting binned and VdB finally getting a go. We saw how Ajax played last night; Donny thrived in the exact same system just 2 years ago. He’s one of our best technical players, which for some reason, Ole can’t see.

    Anyway, 3-2 United, with Atalanta dominating the ball and us scoring on the counter. I hope, anyway. DDG, Mason and Ronaldo are my only sources of hope.
     
    laughtersassassin said:
    Surely even a win here and loss versus Liverpool should see him gone.

    You can't go 4 Prem games without a win.
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    I doubt it.

    I reckon as long as he wins the Atlanta games, 2 points out of Liverpool, Spurs and City will keep him safe.
     
    ::sonny:: said:
    They have other players of the same level

    You will see tonight maehle looking like overmars and zappacosta looking like figo

    The matter is cm, they play with 4 quantity cm (freuler, de roon, malinovsky, pasalic), united with Matic-Pogba, McFred?

    They have the complete control of the midfield
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    I wouldn't be surprised if we put an extra body in midfield tonight, as a tester for how he will set out against Liverpool on Sunday.
     
    Jaxa said:
    I love this kind of shithousery, who knows if it really makes a massive difference but petty and hilarious nonetheless
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    Of course it does. They couldn't sleep properly. I hate this type of stuff, it's cheating.
     
    Anyone who has Donny starting, forget it. He will play who he trusts and the players that have got him out the shite before. Expect some big names on the bench as Ole knows pampering people's egos will ultimately get him the sack. This is might even mean Ronaldo being on the bench.....
     
    No Fred apparently?



    I guess that means Pogba and McTominay nailed on to start in the Pivot? Don't think Ole trusts Matic to play twice in a week, nor does he trust VdB to play twice in a season.
     
    RUCK4444 said:
    Oh feck, not Paul and Matic again.
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    Maybe we can try Scott and VDB! I am lost on how many iterations we tried with VDB but I really want to know if a 4231 with them two can work
     
    RedDevilRoshi said:
    It’ll probably be a McTominay-Matic midfield.
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    Think Matic will start after playing 80 mins against Leicester?

    Dunno about that. Especially with Atalanta being such a high pressing, high energy team.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it was Fred and Donny y'know.

    EDIT: just saw Fred's not ready for tonight.

    feck knows.
     
    Since been said that Fred is not yet allowed to travel with the team having recently returned from a red-list country. More than likely he meets up at the stadium tonight.
     
    VP89 said:
    Maybe we can try Scott and VDB! I am lost on how many iterations we tried with VDB but I really want to know if a 4231 with them two can work
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    VDB and Fred is one I want to see but who knows.
     
    Just bench Bruno and go with Matic,Donny and Pogba. Take the midfield control. Please don't do a 2 man midfield with Pogba on it. Atalanta is a brilliantly coached high pressing high intensity team. You need players who can pass it through high press.
     
    I hate to say it, but this is as much about Atalanta as us. Their record in the CL is pretty patchy for a team that's so impressive in the league, which suggests nervousness when it comes to European games. If they turn up with their best game, it could be a tough old night for us. But if we turn up the volume at home and our team comes out swinging, I really think they could fold under the pressure, which might be enough to cover up any other inadequacies we show on the pitch.
     
    I don't see how we can win this game other than being very lucky like we were at Villarreal. They are a better team than us currently.
     
    bond19821982 said:
    Just bench Bruno and go with Matic,Donny and Pogba. Take the midfield control. Please don't do a 2 man midfield with Pogba on it. Atalanta is a brilliantly coached high pressing high intensity team. You need players who can pass it through high press.
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    Put your sensible tactical adjustment away. We just need to play the same way we've been playing throughout our piss poor 3 years but just with more passion. That's what will really see us win tonight. Passion and more legs.
     
    VP89 said:
    Maybe we can try Scott and VDB! I am lost on how many iterations we tried with VDB but I really want to know if a 4231 with them two can work
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    He's not really a CM in my opinion at least. In this game it would be a huge risk. I think Scott has been poor for us for a long while now as well.

    Would like to see Rashford from the start. Would like to see the below

    Rashford - Ronaldo - Cavani

    With Mason coming on early if things aren't working. Cavani used to play off the wing for PSG and we need his energy and endeavour on the pitch. I have no idea with midfield but Bruno needs to drop deeper and help out and make it more of a 4-3-3 if we are going to have any control.
     
    Ole must win this, no excuses!
    He must pull us out of this slump and fast.

    We seem incapable of keeping clean sheets so we will most likely conceed here.Hopefully we can outscore them..
    I just want a good performance, attacking play and 3 points.

    Lose here and we go into the Liverpool game on a low and we will probably get spanked.There is a chance of that anyway , but with a good performance and win today i think we have a chance at the weekend.
     
    God I hope we win this. Whatever about wanting Ole sacked, being dumped out of the CL in the group stages again would be seriously fecking depressing.
     
    JustinC00 said:
    He won't be gone until top 4 is no longer possible. glazers only care about the cl money
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    I mean Mouriniho got binned mid-season and we found our way into the top 4 after he’d gone, but he still went when it was practically impossible to make it and only a crazy run from us got us close, and we still didn’t make it. So I concur Ole’s job is safe until December, and we need to be a good 10 points off the top 4 at that point for him to go. This won’t happen as we’re definitely one of the best 4 teams.
     
    Massive Spanner said:
    God I hope we win this. Whatever about wanting Ole sacked, being dumped out of the CL in the group stages again would be seriously fecking depressing.
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    Twice as bad if we go into the Europa.
     
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Cristiano Ronaldo image Cristiano Ronaldo 29% of 315 votes

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Score Predictions

153,68,58
  • Man Utd win
  • Atalanta win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 20% Man Utd 2:1 Atalanta
  • 11% Man Utd 1:1 Atalanta
  • 10% Man Utd 1:2 Atalanta
  • 9% Man Utd 2:2 Atalanta
  • 8% Man Utd 2:0 Atalanta
  • 8% Man Utd 3:1 Atalanta
  • 6% Man Utd 1:0 Atalanta
  • 5% Man Utd 0:2 Atalanta
  • 4% Man Utd 3:0 Atalanta
  • 4% Man Utd 1:3 Atalanta
  • 4% Man Utd 3:2 Atalanta
  • 3% Man Utd 0:1 Atalanta
  • 2% Man Utd 4:1 Atalanta
  • 2% Man Utd 4:0 Atalanta
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Atalanta
  • 1% Man Utd 0:3 Atalanta
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Atalanta
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Atalanta
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Atalanta
  • 0% Man Utd 5:1 Atalanta
  • 0% Man Utd 3:3 Atalanta
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Atalanta
Possession
56% 44%
Shots
22 13
Shots on Target
9 6
Corners
8 5
Fouls
10 12

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Szymon Marciniak

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