Manchester City 1:0 Manchester United

red_7 · Oct 30, 2014

4-3-2-1

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
Herrera - Blind - Fellaini
Rooney - di Maria
Falcao

Shark · Oct 30, 2014

I'm actually expecting a result.. why am I doing this to myself? City will inevitably raise their game though and score a goal or two.

Oop North · Oct 30, 2014

red_7 said:
4-3-2-1

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
Herrera - Blind - Fellaini
Rooney - di Maria
Falcao

I'm trying to find a flaw in this lineup and failing.

I would say that if Herrera is not yet 100% then we'll stick with the same starting eleven from the last game.

Crackers · Oct 30, 2014

Oop North said:
I'm trying to find a flaw in this lineup and failing.

I would say that if Herrera is not yet 100% then we'll stick with the same starting eleven from the last game.

It really end up something like this.
De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
- Blind -
Herrera Fellaini
Rooney - di Maria
Falcao

Herrera will be a little further forward when we have the ball, I imagine.

Crackers · Oct 30, 2014

Silva AND Toure are rumoured to be out for this. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/manchester...oure-doubtful-manchester-united-clash-1472370
If this is the case, we've got to take the opportunity.

The Purist · Oct 30, 2014

I think United's best chance will lie in getting at City's backline. Mangala hasn't found his feet in this league yet and continues to look dodgy. City have no top level left backs either and coincidentally they play on the same side. This might be the game to play a more attacking style, especially as City don't have a lot of players firing on all cylinders for them this season, except maybe Aguero and Silva.

My team would be:

De Gea
Rafael right back
Smalling r centre back
Rojo l centre back
Shaw left back
Jones defensive mid
Fellaini similar role to Chelsea -> bring defensive work but play as more of a CM to combat Fernandinho.
Rooney playing out left but rotating in towards the striker position as Van Persie drops (runs in between Kompany/Zabaleta will take Kompany's focus away from the other side of the pitch)
Di Maria playing out right and taking on the left back. He can also put in lethal balls with his left boot and destroyed Germany on the right wing.
Falcao right striker, playing the poacher's role.
Van Persie left striker, dropping back to receive the ball into feet and allowing Rooney to take the attention of Kompany and Zabaleta in order to give himself more space.

Your attack is better than their defence but your midfield is worse than theirs. I think this would be the best way to play.

Eric'sCollar · Oct 30, 2014

@The Purist I can't see Blind there?

I'll get my coat

Nessaja · Oct 30, 2014

The Purist said:
I think United's best chance will lie in getting at City's backline. Mangala hasn't found his feet in this league yet and continues to look dodgy. City have no top level left backs either and coincidentally they play on the same side. This might be the game to play a more attacking style, especially as City don't have a lot of players firing on all cylinders for them this season, except maybe Aguero and Silva.

My team would be:

De Gea
Rafael right back
Smalling r centre back
Rojo l centre back
Shaw left back
Jones defensive mid
Fellaini similar role to Chelsea -> bring defensive work but play as more of a CM to combat Fernandinho.
Rooney playing out left but rotating in towards the striker position as Van Persie drops (runs in between Kompany/Zabaleta will take Kompany's focus away from the other side of the pitch)
Di Maria playing out right and taking on the left back. He can also put in lethal balls with his left boot and destroyed Germany on the right wing.
Falcao right striker, playing the poacher's role.
Van Persie left striker, dropping back to receive the ball into feet and allowing Rooney to take the attention of Kompany and Zabaleta in order to give himself more space.

Your attack is better than their defence but your midfield is worse than theirs. I think this would be the best way to play.

No Blind?
Madness

But.. I get were you're coming from with this - allthough I think we'd see a 48% - 4% - 48% "area-possession-stat"
With the 4% midfield coming from kick-offs...

Cantonas Dad · Oct 30, 2014

We can beat these feckin mugs, stick Fellaini on Toure as nearly every thing goes through him, United to win 1-0

MancFanFromManc · Oct 30, 2014

Can anyone remember wanting to win a (Prem) game more, but with so little hope - reminds me of the last ECL final v Barca

How much will it mean if we do win tho

Yorkeontop · Oct 30, 2014

Now watch City either continue their slump or spectacularly break out of it.

Chuckazulu · Oct 30, 2014

red_7 said:
4-3-2-1

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
Herrera - Blind - Fellaini
Rooney - di Maria
Falcao

I wouldn't mind this line up. It actually looks really good but, unfortunately, I don't think we will change last game's formation.

Frank Grimes · Oct 30, 2014

----------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Rafael-------Smalling-----Rojo-------Shaw-----
----------------------Blind------------------------
---------------Fellaini------Herrera--------------
--------------Rooney-------Di Maria-------------
-----------------------RVP-----------------------

Shark · Oct 30, 2014

Yorkeontop said:
Now watch City either continue their slump or spectacularly break out of it.

This game isn't just all about City. We've drawn our last two games, we need to win this too and if we do win I think it's fair to say that we've actually turned a corner. Last season a draw against Chelsea in the form they're in and then a win at City would have been unthinkable.

legball · Oct 30, 2014

We'll play the same team that started against Chelsea - Only Rooney would come in for Mata. For people dropping out RVP, have a word with yourself, I know Falcao is the new toy but he hasn't really set the world on fire since he signed for us, he missed the last game through injury and thus is lacking in match fitness and momentum, he's not going to start against Man City.

The Purist · Oct 30, 2014

Nessaja said:
No Blind?
Madness

But.. I get were you're coming from with this - allthough I think we'd see a 48% - 4% - 48% "area-possession-stat"
With the 4% midfield coming from kick-offs...

You don't see Blind there because I didn't put him there. I thought he was careless with the ball against Chelski.. gave them a few 3v3s which they didn't capitalise on. Jones has played in many a game like this and would be my trusted option. It's not as mad as you'd think.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 30, 2014

The Purist said:
You don't see Blind there because I didn't put him there. I thought he was careless with the ball against Chelski.. gave them a few 3v3s which they didn't capitalise on. Jones has played in many a game like this and would be my trusted option. It's not as mad as you'd think.

I thought Jones had shin splints fitted, so is he even available?

RedStarUnited · Oct 30, 2014

The Purist said:
You don't see Blind there because I didn't put him there. I thought he was careless with the ball against Chelski.. gave them a few 3v3s which they didn't capitalise on. Jones has played in many a game like this and would be my trusted option. It's not as mad as you'd think.

You thought/think Blind is careless with the ball and therefore Phil Jones should play in his place? That is fantastic logic.

Nessaja · Oct 30, 2014

The Purist said:
You don't see Blind there because I didn't put him there. I thought he was careless with the ball against Chelski.. gave them a few 3v3s which they didn't capitalise on. Jones has played in many a game like this and would be my trusted option. It's not as mad as you'd think.

I apologize if my post came off trying to make your previous post look mad

That wasn't my intention.

Fair enough, no Blind in your setup.
But again, madness...

I think Jones (still injured btw?) can do a decent job as DM, but more so if he has a certain task of taking a player out of the game (Ronaldo / Bale etc) Not sure if thats needed in the same way for this game.

So Blind for me in the DM role, keeps us ticking along nicely!
Gives our CB's way more options in playing out from the back than Jones ever will.

But for shits and giggles:

------ Jones ---- Blind

Di Maria - Rooney - Adnan/Mata

---------Falcao/Van P

But then again, harsh on Fellaini after a couple of decent performances.

BaguetteBoy · Oct 30, 2014

Absolutely hate feeling this confident it usually ends up in tears

TheReligion · Oct 30, 2014

Not sure why people are putting Jones in at CM to be honest given the fact we have a few options in that position now and he has played nowhere but CB all season under LvG. Would be a mistake in my opinion.

I think we will have to see who is fit as aren't both Rooney and Falcao doubtful with Herrera still recovering?

Something similar to the Chelsea game would suit me although I might move Di Maria. Certainly think we should start Fellaini again.

The only questionable positions for me would be that of Mata and Januzaj and that depends on Herrera and Rooney for me.

thejtrain · Oct 30, 2014

Jacob said:
I've come to realize RvP will always play as long as he has two legs with LvG at helm.

Agree, he's started every PL game this season, hasn't he? Not that I'm overly worried about it with Falcao and Rooney missing games thru injuries and suspension.

goin4glory · Oct 30, 2014

Jones isn't starting CM in a million years when Blind has been very good in that role and Fellaini has had two good performances as well. His height could also be a major asset vs a very physical City team. I think we line up the same as vs Chelsea but with Rooney as the 10 instead of Mata.

ManRed · Oct 30, 2014

We have to go with the same line up as Chelsea..with maybe Rooney in for Mata. The team played exceptionally well and kept its shape throughout the game. The only thing we were missing was a spark in the attack which happened on the rare occasions.

I am really up for this game..if we can get in City players faces and keep Aguero quiet we can win this one. Tired of being negative, since last year just felt negative in all big games. But not anymore, LVG is a big game manager and the team has been playing well generally.

Gerald G · Oct 30, 2014

Not putting Blind there because you think he was careless in possession, so instead you would start the injured defender Phil Jones in the middle? Brilliant.

Anyway we need to keep the momentum going. The only player I would replace is Mata. Keep it going.

NJM78 · Oct 30, 2014

If Silva is out (pray he is) I'd play the same team except for swapping Rooney and Mata.

With Falcao fit on the bench ready to call upon.

I'm looking forward to it more than I was 4 or 5 weeks back, nice little unbeaten run we are on and although still having the occasional mare with our defensive shape the lads look passionate and committed. The reaction to Van Persie goal shows this, with Di Maria's being particularly pleasing considering that was he worst game for us since joining and he knew it.

I would happily take a point despite their current form but the most important thing for me is we turn up and provide a solid test to Man City and show the rest of the world we are ready to challenge the best teams in England and Europe next season!

Brightonian · Oct 30, 2014

chriswt said:
Might not be what you want, but probably true. Not a chance RVP is getting dropped after that goal last week, and that's before you even consider the fact that Rooney and Falcao are supposedly having fitness doubts. Also doubt that our next-choice LCB which is Blackett will be selected ahead of Rojo, given the nature of the game.

sullydnl said:
As for Rojo, LvG has said on several occasions that he doesn't like playing a right footed player at LCB which essentially means Rojo is nailed on at the moment too given the lack of alternatives.

You could be right about RVP. I wasn't saying Rojo would be dropped, just that Smalling wouldn't.

PickledRed · Oct 30, 2014

Shark said:
I'm actually expecting a result.. why am I doing this to myself? City will inevitably raise their game though and score a goal or two.

City will raise their game? They're champions who are mostly good or very good with the odd blip.

The raised game argument is really only relevant when discussing a lesser team giving a bigger side a good game. Not really something that fits City's current situation.

Brightonian · Oct 30, 2014

PickledRed said:
City will raise their game? They're champions who are mostly good or very good with the odd blip.

The raised game argument is really only relevant when discussing a lesser team giving a bigger side a good game. Not really something that fits City's current situation.

Presumably he means raise their game compared to the shambles they've been since half-time in the CSKA match.

gooDevil · Oct 30, 2014

DeGea
Rafael Smalling Rojo Shaw
Blind
Fellaini diMaria
Rooney
Falcao vanPersie

Mark Toure with Fellaini.

2 man midfield · Oct 30, 2014

We're either going to capitalise on City's poor form or receive a backlash.

Actually i guess that's kind of obvious, i guess what i'm saying is it won't be boring.

Everest Red · Oct 30, 2014

Oop North said:
I'm trying to find a flaw in this lineup and failing.

I would say that if Herrera is not yet 100% then we'll stick with the same starting eleven from the last game.

No RvP. Our trainer coach never drops him

Decotron · Oct 30, 2014

gooDevil said:
DeGea
Rafael Smalling Rojo Shaw
Blind
Fellaini diMaria
Rooney
Falcao vanPersie

Mark Toure with Fellaini.

That would be my team as well. City have been so poor recently. reverting to limp 442 where both Toure and Dzeko have been woeful.

AgentP · Oct 30, 2014

MancFanFromManc said:
Can anyone remember wanting to win a (Prem) game more, but with so little hope - reminds me of the last ECL final v Barca

How much will it mean if we do win tho

No way the gap is that huge! Last year was an exception man. We are winning this. I can feel it!

PickledRed · Oct 30, 2014

Brightonian said:
Presumably he means raise their game compared to the shambles they've been since half-time in the CSKA match.

Possibly. It just grates on me when fans qualify opposition performances in such a way. It's like you're pre-empting a potential defeat by saying it's only down to an opponent trying harder coz they're playing us!

In reality, City winning on Sunday wouldn't necessarily be a consequence of then being 'game raisers'. They're a top side who win a lot.

Dimistar · Oct 30, 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ite-Manchester-Citys-current-rocky-spell.html

I wonder why we even bother to take the bus and go play that game.

The-Natural · Oct 30, 2014

Not going to start calling this as a win for us despite a positive performance against Chelsea. The last year has been characterised by an inability to get any momentum going with good performances usually followed by a disappointing result. We have to match if not better the intensity levels of last weekend if we want something from this.

Bwuk · Oct 30, 2014

Is Silva out for sure this sunday? He'll be a massive loss for them. Nasri/Navas just aren't anywhere near as effective as him!

caisenma · Oct 30, 2014

Rooney should be fit to play, according to ESPN.

http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-un...ey-fit-for-derby-vs-city-sources-tell-espn-fc

Ole Gunner Scholes · Oct 30, 2014

legball said:
We'll play the same team that started against Chelsea - Only Rooney would come in for Mata. For people dropping out RVP, have a word with yourself, I know Falcao is the new toy but he hasn't really set the world on fire since he signed for us, he missed the last game through injury and thus is lacking in match fitness and momentum, he's not going to start against Man City.

Falcao is not a toy, he is beautiful & handsome man

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