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Leeds United 0:2 Manchester United

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    Imagine needing months to be able to determine if Weghorst is good enough for us...
     
    You laugh but he consistently misses easy chances and concedes chances for them, such as the flick at the edge of our box earlier.

    I laugh because it's one of the stupidest things anyone has ever written - the idea that the most productive PL player in a calendar year is a "terrible footballer" is moronic.

    He should have done better with that chance, yes, and today hasn't been his best game, but your post was way over the top reactionary.
     
    The only players up for it look Fred and Malacia, head and shoulders above anyone else.

    Werghorst doesn't seem all that good all of a sudden. Not his mistake that ETH has a weakness for big slow lads up front.

    Sancho stood out as awful as well.

    Harry Maguire tryna make sure he's not coming back to the side on regular anytime soon. Why on earth he's not recognized pace of the game being so slow in releasing the ball.

    I don't understand, all of the players bar the two i mentioned are step back from the Leeds players.
     
    We can't bring the ball out, because we have no midfield. Avoiding giving the ball to Fred seems to be a tactic. We need Dalot to move up the pitch to create overloads with Sancho. Malacia and Rashford the same. Bruno needs to get his shooting boots on.
     
    How did Fernandes miss that ? Damn - there was a time when it was a goal if he got the ball anywhere near in that area.
     
    Did Maguire even realise that Harrison was closing him down when he got caught out? I don’t think he even looked
    In first minutes he forgot his player on first post. Made a foul which could have been a penalty. Lost a ball as last player in defence.
    Guy just makes mistake after mistake
     
    And to think there were quite a few posters on here who said they were happy to have this shower of shit back in the prem when they came back up. Even I’d forgotten quite how much I dislike them.
     
    Of all our players, he’s probably the easiest to dislike. Constantly whinging at others, dives a lot, makes so many brain dead calls in dangerous positions etc.
    The other thing is how can a supposed world class CAM be such a bad ball player?
    Just compare his ball work to someone like Odegaard ffs.
     
    Doesn’t look like Aboubakar has been doing much at Besiktas so wondering if they would like to take Weghorst back?
     
    Have to say we've been far worse without Casemiro than I thought we would. Though I guess also we miss McTominay, which for all his shit, he is at least closer in style to a normal DM where we would be less open compared to starting Fred and Sabitzer.
     
    Reads like a post from an Arsenal fan.

    We're tired, missing our starting midfield and our best player in it, our starting right winger, our starting CB pairing, Dalot is on his second game back.

    We're not just 'missing a few players'.

    The level of football at this point with the squad should simply be better. I don't mind if we lose while playing ok but we have been absolutely shite today and its unacceptable, regardless of who plays. Hes meant to be all about 'coaching'.
     
    ETHs game plan is clear. Leeds defense will gift you chances, if you don’t give away any goals to them, odds are that you will walk away with 3 pts, especially if you have Rash, Bruno, Sancho and co on the pitch.

    Maguire playing long is also certainly by design. Without Casemiro we would struggle to play up from the back against a hard pressing team like Leeds.

    We need some luck.
     
    Lookin like another draw here. We’re wasting the only chances we get.
     
    That was our worst performance for a while.

    Nobody's playing well and Shaw must be on a bonus on how many times he can pass pointless balls to Maguire.
    Dalot and Sancho must be on bonuses for giving the ball away the most.
    Weghorst looks more and more pointless every time he plays.
    Bruno should calm down and focus on the football.

    Roasting from EtH at half-time.
     
    And to think there were quite a few posters on here who said they were happy to have this shower of shit back in the prem when they came back up. Even I’d forgotten quite how much I dislike them.
    They were even more insufferable under Bielsa. I don’t know why any Manchester United fan ever gave them plaudits
     
    We all expected that didn't we, hope was ETH would come up with a tactical plan to help the midfield battle. If he did have a plan it isn't working.

    Has to change things up rather than just hoping this half will be different
     
    One thing we’ve learned is the Fred/Sabitzer combo in midfield simply doesn’t work. About as much use as McFred, it’s been forced upon us of course which can’t be helped.
     
    Its 5 players. Thats nearly half the team. Most teams will struggle under those circumstances

    I completely accept that but this is more than struggling. This is looking like a team thats never played football before. Its Leeds we are playing FFS. We still have the better players on the pitch than them.
     
    We can't bring the ball out, because we have no midfield. Avoiding giving the ball to Fred seems to be a tactic. We need Dalot to move up the pitch to create overloads with Sancho. Malacia and Rashford the same. Bruno needs to get his shooting boots on.

    Exactly.
     
    Having just seen what Weghorst can do against the Leeds defense on Wednesday, I don't quite understand the logic of starting him again. Rashford on top with Garnacho on the left, would have been preferable.

    And given that we are missing our best midfielders, wouldn't it make sense to play Martinez, who is good at progressing the ball? Rotation I know, but wait until Casemiro is back.

    Both Weghorst and Maguire (Fred either but we have no other options) are exactly the players NOT to play against Leeds' high tempo pressing style of play
    I don't get ETH's team selection
     
    17th vs 3rd. A few player missing does not excuse this performance.
    it’s a derby against leeds not a kick about down the park. if you didn’t expect this to be a fight then you need a reality check
     
    Guess we can expect Garnacho to come on at some point, Rashford to move into middle with Sancho on the right. Maybe Martinez on for Malacia/Shaw as well.
     
    The level of football at this point with the squad should simply be better. I don't mind if we lose while playing ok but we have been absolutely shite today and its unacceptable, regardless of who plays. Hes meant to be all about 'coaching'.
    This is bullshit. You cannot play like we usually do when we don't even have a defensive midfielder to replace Casemiro and Maguire is not a tenth of the CB Varane is.

    Otherwise, we would just field 11 GKs because it's the easiest/cheapest.
     
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Score Predictions

150,22,18
  • Man Utd win
  • Leeds United win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 26% Leeds United 1:2 Man Utd
  • 18% Leeds United 0:2 Man Utd
  • 14% Leeds United 1:3 Man Utd
  • 9% Leeds United 0:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Leeds United 1:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Leeds United 2:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Leeds United 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Leeds United 2:2 Man Utd
  • 3% Leeds United 1:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Leeds United 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Leeds United 2:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Leeds United 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 1:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 3:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 4:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 9:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Leeds United 0:6 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Leeds United
  2. Man Utd
Possession
33% 67%
Shots
16 11
Shots on Target
6 5
Corners
7 3
Fouls
10 13

Referee

Paul Tierney