I fully understand your point and I don't imagine Jose will allow for any complacency to set in. I just feel that we will be too strong for the other teams at home and therefore a point here puts us well on course for the benchmark ten points. Obviously the quicker we can get qualification wrapped up the better, which allows us to switch our main focus to the premier league.
Champions League Group A
CSKA Moscow 1:4 Manchester United
VEB Arena, Moscow
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- Wed, 27 September 2017 @ 7:45pm BST
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We must win this game but a draw isn't a complete disaster. What can we expect from CSKA? Are they still the same side we faced 2 years ago or has anything changed?Whoscored says Mario Fernandes is out (great!… but their coach says he'll feature if there's any chance) and… that Matić is doubtful?!?
Last edited:I smell a draw.
Will take the 1 point at CSKA 10/10.
This. We'll see more rotation against Palace.
What happened since Soton game? Seems like nobody want to play midfield.Whoscored says Mario Fernandes is out (great!) and… that Matić is doubtful?!?
Lindelof in midfield thenAfter his Burton show, I was kind of hoping Lingard would start, but…If Mario Fernandes is indeed out, that would be fantastic for us. He's a menace to play against as a wing-back.Need a 1-0 Jose special tonight. Though I fear a draw is more likely.1-1.Groups like ours were you have 4 teams all with a chance of taking points from each other are sometimes much more dangerous than they appear.
Ideally, you want a Group like Liverpool's. Two mediocre sides and one so bad everyone will beat them.
With that in mind, we really need to be going for the win tonight. Get qualified as soon as possible so we can coast the last two games---------------De Gea-----------
--Darmian---Smalling---Bailly---Young
------------Herrera----Matic------
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--Mata---------Lukaku------------Rahford
Score Prediction 2-2Having TFM or Pereira around would have been useful tonight.Luckhurst tweeted that Valencia didn't travel. If he is having knee problems then it's even more baffling that we didn't sign Aurier.
Hopefully it's just a precaution and a rest before his hectic schedule with national team.Gonna go all Paul Merson, and since I've not heard of any of their players (apart from that goalkeeper who has played for them forever) I'll assume they're not up to much.
Nah. Not for me, Jeff. Never 'eard of 'em. 0-3 United.
Even more strange that we let TFM go out on loan, although it does seem that he's doing pretty well there (despite Palace playing dreadful).
I'm sure Darmian and Young will be the full backs tonight, even if I'd much rather Tuanzebe got a chance at some point.
I think Tuanzebe is the reason we didn't sign another RB.
Its not strange because Darmian or Young would be played over him anyway. He needs to play regularly and he wouldn't get close to that here. Tuanzebe is currently injured too.
Exactly. That's the part I find strange. I'd say he's at a similar level to both, and with Valencia not able to play every game surely it makes sense for him to fill in.
I can understand Young starting over him against poor opposition just because of his crossing ability, but Darmian is just a stop gap that's taking up game time.Our last away win in CL was against Leverkusen (5-0) in Moyes season.
Since then our results are
Vs Olympiacos - Lost 2-0
Vs Bayern - Lost 3-1
Vs PSV - Lost 2-1
Vs CSKA Moscow - Draw 1-1
Vs Wolfsburg - Lost 3-2
Played 5, lost 4 and drew 1.
I agree with this - a draw tonight wouldn’t be that bad. A win and we’d be laughing obviously.
Hey ya
Ammm sky saying Tony V will be rested... Are they at it again or do we need an update on the team news?
Eurgh. I suppose drawing you away group games isn't a bad result so we've gone in preferring not to lose rather than going for a win. Unfortunately we've been too shit to even do that.Darmian, Bailly, Smalling, YoungDDG
These are no bad side and would be happy to escape with a draw here. Personally I'd have put out an almost full second string. Just to freshen it up. Blind Smalling Lindeloff etc But Jose wont do that and with injuries that seems like a non-runner anyhow. He will go for the win and Hopefully he will again prove why he is the manager and not us.Herrera, MaticMata, Mkhi, Tony M
Lukaku
I gone for the 1-1 to keep us top but I'd not be surprised to sneak a boring 3 points
Im reading Valencia to be rested... Any conformation on this?
Young wont be rested.
He has only had 3 games and he does not play international. He will play these next two and get a two week brak, i expect.
He may go slightly more defensive and play Blind depending if he has come for a smash n grab. But with Youngs speed and crossing I think he sees him as too important in that kind of break out formation.Is Carrick injured? he is not included in the squad!
So Matic and Herrera then, hoped that Jose could rest Matic.Our last 2 visits have both been really tough. Both at 2 different stadiums. Winning 1-0 at Luzhniki (October 21 2009) and drawing 1-1 at Khmki (October 21 2015).
The pitch always seems to be terrible though. Can't see this being a high scorer and wouldn't surprise me if it's 0-0 to be honest.
Thanks, updated.
Careful with what you wish for. Whoscored is giving him as doubtful to play, meaning he might be injured too.De gea
Darmian Smalling Bailly Blind
Herrera Matic
Lingard Mkhitaryan Martial
LukakuI've gone with;
DDG
Blind
Smalling
Bailly
Darmian
Matic
Herrera
Mata
Mkhitaryan
Rashford
Lukaku
Eremenko Jr got caught for cocaine use so he's on a lengthy ban.A win would obviously ideal, but a draw would be a decent result. Not an easy trip to Moscow but Bailly coming back in eases a few of the other injury worries although the midfield obviously doesn't need any more absentees just now. Valencia, Jones, Pogba and Fellaini would probablyall start this game if they were available and Carrick's experience would be handy on the bench so if United can get a point or dig out a 1-0 or 2-1 win under the circumstances, then all good.Predicting a little bit of a curve-ball tonight:
Which will spend most of the game closer to this sort of setup:
De Gea
Lindelof - Smalling - Bailly
Young ------------------------- Darmian
Herrera - Matic
Mkhitaryan -----------------
-----------------Martial
Lukaku
De GeaSubs:
Smalling - Bailly
Lindelof------------------Darmian
----------Matic----
-------Herrera ---------------------
Young ---Mkhitaryan -----Martial
Lukaku
Lingard
Rashford
Mata
Could very well be it, although I still think it's harsh on Lingard to leave him out. Anyhow, minor detail, but no way Bailly plays on the left of Smalling, which opens up doubts. Also, it could be Darmian on the right and Young on the left too, specially if Fernandes is out.I wouldn't mind Matic having a rest as it goes, but we cannot afford that it seems. I wonder whether Mourinho has any thoughts on Blind playing as a midfielder at some stage. I think he's a quality player, with a great attitude. Not as destructive as a Matic, or the all-action Pogs... but he's an intelligent football player, and very competitive.
Be good to see Mata, or Martial, or Miki get a grip of this game and take the match away from CSKA with some magic. We need them to become match--winners.Is Carrick injured or are we just not risking his old legs on that rock hard pitch?
Probably Lindelöf would step first to midfield than Blind.Jones picked an injury? rested?- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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10%
Romelu Lukaku
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3%
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
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2%
Nemanja Matic
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Ander Herrera
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1%
Daley Blind
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 568 ratings.
Score Predictions
550,28,136
- Man Utd win
- Moscow win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 27% Moscow 0:2 Man Utd
- 20% Moscow 1:2 Man Utd
- 16% Moscow 0:1 Man Utd
- 15% Moscow 1:1 Man Utd
- 5% Moscow 0:3 Man Utd
- 5% Moscow 1:3 Man Utd
- 3% Moscow 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Moscow 0:4 Man Utd
- 2% Moscow 2:1 Man Utd
- 1% Moscow 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Moscow 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% Moscow 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Moscow 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Moscow 2:0 Man Utd
- 0% Moscow 3:1 Man Utd
- 0% Moscow 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Moscow 1:4 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Moscow
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 38% 62%
- Shots
- 15 16
- Shots on Target
- 7 10
- Corners
- 3 7
- Fouls
- 10 5
Referee
Jonas Eriksson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Jesse Lingard
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
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