DatIrishFella
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Another win me thinks. 1-3. Weghorst double and Rashy to contonue his streak
I agree. This match has banana skin written all over it. I'd start him and hopefully try and build a lead and then sub him off.What if we don't win without him and lose to Arsenal away with a full strength side? We can't risk not beating Palace is my gut feeling.
If it were any other player, I'd agree with you, but the drop-off from Casemiro to McTominay is so steep (particularly given McTominay's recent form) that I'd be very worried about dropping points.That's not technically true if you think United has a chance of winning the league though; if we're going to lose one of these games then the better 3 points to take are versus Arsenal, so that they also drop points. If we lose versus Palace and beat Arsenal we gain 3 points on them (albeit they still have their game in hand versus City to come), but if we beat palace and lose to Arsenal then the gap remains the same, plus whatever Arsenal get versus City in their game in hand (so potentially they extend their lead over us by 3 points).
Obviously the optimal solution is to win both games and gain 6 points on them (with an extra game played of course), and I think even with resting Casemiro we've got enough to beat Palace - we're the form team in the league and Palace have been poor, particularly at home.
That's not technically true if you think United has a chance of winning the league though; if we're going to lose one of these games then the better 3 points to take are versus Arsenal, so that they also drop points. If we lose versus Palace and beat Arsenal we gain 3 points on them (albeit they still have their game in hand versus City to come), but if we beat palace and lose to Arsenal then the gap remains the same, plus whatever Arsenal get versus City in their game in hand (so potentially they extend their lead over us by 3 points).
Obviously the optimal solution is to win both games and gain 6 points on them (with an extra game played of course), and I think even with resting Casemiro we've got enough to beat Palace - we're the form team in the league and Palace have been poor, particularly at home.
If it were any other player, I'd agree with you, but the drop-off from Casemiro to McTominay is so steep (particularly given McTominay's recent form) that I'd be very worried about dropping points.
I'd imagine that depends on Martial's fitness.Can’t see Weghorst being put straight in.
More likely to come on as a sub I’d say
NO. He was not the reason. The entire team was the reason FFS. It's like people are not paying attention. We played badly regardless of who was in the team.If Scott was anonymous at home against a League One side, Palace away would be terrifying with him at 6. He was the reason teams like Palace were able to slice us open last season.
Don't see why it has to be a "Weak" and a "Strong" side, I think different things are needed, Crystal Palace will be extremely physical and play deeper than Arsenal so with that in mind I'd go:
Vs Palace
Dalot Maguire Martinez Malacia
Mctominay Eriksen
Antony Bruno Garnacho
Weghorst
Vs Arsenal
DDG
AWB Varane Martinez Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony Bruno Rashford
Martial
As weird as it sounds, I'm more worried about this game than the City one.
With the big games you always feel you have a chance, especially recently with our confidence back.
With teams like Palace, unless you pull away early you'll have to grind out a result for 90mins. Also with the heavy fixture list, I'm guessing there'll be some changes to the starting 11. Another potential banana skin.
NO. He was not the reason. The entire team was the reason FFS. It's like people are not paying attention. We played badly regardless of who was in the team.
Can’t risk any injuries or suspensions tonight when we need our best players against arsenal.
Ye we shouldn’t be playing a weakened team but we can still rotate a few players. Like give martinez a game and rest Shaw. Give garnacho a game and rest rashford.But at the expense of dropping points tonight? Palace are not a walkover. If we play a weakened team we’ll likely scrape a draw tonight.
Yeah, that's always my concern as well.Beating City (or Arsenal) is of no use if we lose to Palace... whatever resting of players we do will need to be carefully thought out.
Depends which article you readHow tall is this wighorse fella, quite tall, ain't he?
It's nothing to do with resting and everything to do with avoiding suspensionThe Arsenal game is 4 days after Palace. Then United play Forest twice and Reading.
The time for resting can come after Sunday!
Casemiro is a vastly experienced player, I'm sure he can play 70-90 minutes without getting booked.
We cannot risk Casemiro and hope McT and Fred do the job. Palace have too many dribblers in Olise, Zaha and Eze who will draw fouls and Casemiro might get sucked into one too many, regardless of how professional and experienced he is.
Fred as well, we need him against the Gooners IMOCouldn't have put it better myself and that's my biggest fear about him being on pitch too long
His first big test was after game 2 of the seasonFirst big test for Ten Hag
Getting players to play out of their skin after a big derby comeback win, against a team in the other half will be tough.
Robert Jones