- Good luck to Jones at the World cup, but him going and Smalling not going, doesnt make sense.
FA Cup Final
Chelsea 1:0 Manchester United
Wembley
- Kick-off
- Sat, 19 May 2018 @ 5:15pm BST
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
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Oh, come on. Best league position since Fergie (by far), it's even the first time we directly qualified for the group stage through league psotiion. He won three trophies last year. Which is three of the four only trophies we've won since Fergie. (LVG's FA Cup being the 4th), and we're in the FA Cup final again. We're not far off at the moment. Changing the manager would have us starting over again.
have to admit salah would have had a hat-trick...
agree
Oh ok. Your "yes" means "not enough cover".
Agreed. It isn't his fault the players have no heart and drive.Terrible final. Was like watching a typical league game where we can't break a defending team down.Despite our best league position since SAF, it all feels a bit of a damp squid at the moment. City with the PL, and potentially Liverpool with the CL. Cliche, but that game summed our season up. Urgh...
Good, we need to start over. This direction Jose has us going is taking us nowhere.
yes.. which is why i want a clearout...Well last time I checked Jose signed two CBs
My yes means enough cover.Abysmal match. Both teams were just shambolic. As for us, well, I was expecting such perfomance. These players don’t give a shit about anything, bar their Instagram fame. Manager’s tactics, and overall approach to the games has been terrible. We haven’t looked like a proper team throughout the whole season. Just counting on some individual brilliance, and that’s it. No trained patterns in our play, just a total mess on the pitch. Fecking shite.
Jones and Smalling reminds me of the time we used to have Foster and Carroll. They might get some good games then eventually one will mess up big time and the other will take over up until the second player fecks up and the focus moves to the other player. The truth is that we've got too many players who are squad members at best. Jones, Smalling, Young, Lingard, Rashford, Blind, Darmian, Shaw ....you can't win with such crap.
Sugar coat it as much as you like, treat second place like a trophy but we are crap and only getting worse under Jose. Not far off you are kidding right 20 points adrift from City and not far off
Which is why I pointed to the players we bring in being an issue, whats the point of having a clear out to bring in more trash. We need to sort that problem first
Come on, start beating another drum, people keep pointing to players as being so terrible when Jose has hardly played them all season. How can you expect anybody to perform when the closest they get to playing is the bench. I see the same names passing by week in week out and they are all players warming the bench.Sugar coat it as much as you like, treat second place like a trophy but we are crap and only getting worse under Jose. Not far off you are kidding right 20 points adrift from City and not far off
I don't think second place is a trophy, it is still the best we've been able to do since Fergie. City isn't going to grab a 100 points every season, and we already are as solid defensively as they are (27 v 28 goals conceded). We just need to score more goals, and stop dropping points against smaller teams. We really aren't that far off.
The players are a refection of the manager, they are following his instructions. As we all know if you don't follow the manager's instructions you won't play. Blame the players as much as you like, it all starts and ends with the manager.Can’t keep turning up for 45 minutes and keep getting away with it.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, and I am first to bash Mourinho, because I just can't see the supposed progress. We look like complete shite on the pitch, and since Mourinho came in I can count on my fingers the number of times we played well. But at the same time we can't blame him that fecking Rashford or Sanchez can't control the ball properly, and their first touch is just non-existent. Pogba dribbling in his own half doesn't help either. All in all our approach to the games comes from the man on the touchline, as you said.
We are only as solid because we are playing defensive zombie football and have the best keeper in the world to bail us out.
Yep. I'd much rather concede 1 more goal but score what 30/40 more
We are unfortunately miles behind them in terms of coaching.
Ok. Now I remember, you were one poster who wanted us to keep Rooney before he was sold.
I'm flattered that you remember me.I got some lovely free flags at Wembley today....
No I am not blaming Pogba for the game - but I am not blaming Jones for the game either. Hazard was never Jones' responsibility. If Jones had followed Hazard all the way where he got the ball, he would left a huge hole in the center. I am blaming one of our 3 central midfielders for not being anywhere close to where Hazard was. Did Jones react too late - yes - but he was left one on one with one of the quickest attackers in the game - and he never should have beenI'm sure it's been said above many times over, but this match perfectly encapsulated everything about what will be the Mourinho era at United. I'm genuinely really looking forward to the post-Mourinho era.Got to say, that first touch by Hazard was incredible and the 2nd one just destroys Jones. From that moment it’s over.
As the commentator said he was caught off guard completely by Hazard. Then instead of fouling him he kept running after him up until they both entered the penalty box were he got that clumbsy penalty that could easily led to a red card. Its a mistake some 18 year old rookie would do not a 26 year old international.
Defending is the defender or the DMs job.....not our most attacking midfielder option.
Look mate this is not the treble side. Players aren't competing with the likes of Keane, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Stam, Irwin etc but with the likes of frigging Jones, Smalling, Young, Valencia and Fellaini whom shouldn't be at United in the first place. Don't you think that if these players are good enough they wouldn't be given a chance? Of course they would. The trouble is that we've got so much drivel that Mou can hardly pick a side without them and when injuries come things get worse. Take today's game as an example. Lukaku was out and we might as well not bothered playing a striker upfront. Our forward line was literally in-existent.
Its one thing doing well against the likes of Watford or Southampton and its another keeping the likes of Hazard at bay. That's when you need top players to do the job and sadly we have very few of those.
Under the new rules - that was never a red card even if Conte seemed to think so. If a defender genuinely makes an effort to take the ball and ends up fouling the opponent in the box - it's a yellow and a penalty.
Yeah he was caught off guard - he reacted a split second too slow. But ask youself this - why was Hazard allowed to stand all by himself on a counter-attack where he was. It seemed pretty obvious that Herrera's main responsibility in the first half was looking after Hazard - where was he ? And I am convinced Mourinho had instructed United, if Herrera was attacking - someone else stays behind to look after Hazard. And that would normally be either Young or Valencia. In this case - Young as it was his side.
Vidic was a top player - what happened when he was left alone with Torres ? One-on-One with Hazard, noone in our team can stop him - that's why you defend as a team. When they got the penalty - we didn't defend as a team.
The difference is that Jones does this brain farts on a regular basis. Jones is unreliable. He's nowhere near to world class, he's regularly injured and he plays like an enthusiastic 18 year old, with no football IQ. We need better players in the team, defenders who can actually organise the defense rather then simply be part of it and don't expect CM or GK to constantly bail them out.Conte beat Mourinho at his own game, and then came out with a statement after the game that it's hard to break down a team with 9 behind the ball. FFS Mourinho does this all the time.
Had a calamity with cancelled flight connections with airline putting us up in crappy Airport Hotel. Couldn't see match but maybe that was a blessing in disguise. Thanks for info though, much appreciated.
well, of course. But what Iwa saying is if the dead wood isn't at the club, we can't pick them!- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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18%
Chris Smalling
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18%
David de Gea
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12%
Paul Pogba
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6%
Phil Jones
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6%
Ander Herrera
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4%
Ashley Young
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3%
Anthony Martial
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2%
Alexis Sanchez
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1%
Antonio Valencia
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1%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Jesse Lingard
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 367 ratings.
Score Predictions
379,56,39
- Man Utd win
- Chelsea win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 39% Chelsea 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Chelsea 0:2 Man Utd
- 12% Chelsea 0:1 Man Utd
- 8% Chelsea 1:3 Man Utd
- 5% Chelsea 1:1 Man Utd
- 5% Chelsea 2:1 Man Utd
- 3% Chelsea 0:0 Man Utd
- 3% Chelsea 0:3 Man Utd
- 3% Chelsea 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Chelsea 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Chelsea 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Chelsea 2:5 Man Utd
- 0% Chelsea 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Chelsea 0:4 Man Utd
- 0% Chelsea 4:1 Man Utd
- 0% Chelsea 4:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Chelsea
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 33% 67%
- Shots
- 6 18
- Shots on Target
- 3 5
- Corners
- 5 9
- Fouls
- 11 13
Referee
Michael Oliver
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Juan Mata
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replaced by Anthony Martial
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replaced by Romelu Lukaku
