corse they will bloody win. our strikers cant hit a barn door at the moment, and weve just made that fat shit our skipper after he slapped in 2 Transfer reqs, hopeless club these days we are! FML!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Burnley 0:0 Manchester United
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Even though last night was a shambles, put out a full strength team and smash them to get a bit of confidence back.
I like the look of that. And maybe Kagawa on for RVP 2nd half with Rooney moving upfront.Almost every Madrid-supporter I know of, and many "in-the-know" out there, says that Di Maria can be very frustrating on the wing, magical one game, abysmal the next. Everyone says that he is phenomenal in a midfield 3 in front of a defensive midfielder covering his back. Yet, most on here think he will play out wide on the left (or right). Di maria himself said yesterday that he believe he will play at the same position in United as he did last year in Madrid, to the left of the midfield 3, he never said on the wing.Herrera / Fletcher and Di Maria have all played a 3 man midfield before, so I think that is the way to go.
Hopefully Rafael is back and fit? Rojo playing as a left back will probably be for the best to get him bedded into the league.
Play Rooney RVP and Januzaj as the front 3 and let them roam around, with Di Maria staying slightly wider to the left as a semi-winger when Rooney cuts inside.
I think the 3-5-2 right now is a step beyond our players, we need to go back to something more comfortable and rework it in the future.Meh, feck it. Nothing to lose have we.
Or this?
If all of those players are available we will smash them. Theresnodoubtaboutthat.Meh, feck it. Nothing to lose have we.
De Gea
Rafael Jones Smalling Rojo
Herrera Fletcher DiMaria
Januzaj RvP Rooneycorse they will bloody win. our strikers cant hit a barn door at the moment, and weve just made that fat shit our skipper after he slapped in 2 Transfer reqs, hopeless club these days we are! FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!
De Gea
Jones Blackett Rojo
Valencia Fletcher Mata Herrera Young
Rooney RVP
I can see ADM coming off the bench. He's only had one pre-season game after all.
I really think it's time to ditch the three central defenders. Reverting to four in defence is easier than the original decision to play three.
AdM should be fit enough. He played some of the first RM v Atletico match. Also, United's need is urgent.
He may have phrased it like an illiterate, but it was strange behaviour of the club regarding RooneyI really don't think the issue is the 3-5-2 formation. I don't give a piss about yesterday's game as the first 11 was a joke to begin with (Hernandez, Anderson for example). If I look at the previous game vs Sunderland the 4 players that were utterly shit were Fletcher, Cleverley, Young and Valencia. And to make matters worse they played very important positions in 3-5-2 formation. Valencia and Young should have provided penetration, width and defensive cover on the wings. The only thing Young provided was a poor backpass in the second minute of the game if I recall correctly that almost cost us a goal. Coupled with his fault for losing his marker for a goal vs Swansea he is a big factor in the poor results in the first two league games. Valencia other than the hopeful pass for Mata goal in the first game didn't do anything of note in the offensive sense. He can't get past his man, and he doesn't put a quality cross in. Fletcher was a disaster vs Sunderland in the first 15 minutes of the game I think he lost 5-8 balls under no particular pressure. He and Cleverley other than sideways passing didn't contribute anything in the offensive sense and didn't help the defense either. So the defense was under to much pressure because of shit mid and wingbacks. Te biggest problem was on the left side where Blackett had to deal with his shaky nerves and with Young's defensive incompetence as well. The same was with the attack as the three of them can't take on 8 men behind a ball if the wings and CM's dont contribute anything. So as soon as we put at least two competent CM's in the middle we will be alright (make a pick from Herrera, Carrick, Di Maria, Vidal). Rojo will be a massive upgrade on Young at wingback and I think vs Burnley we can tear their right side apart with Rojo-Di Maria knowing each other well playing on our left side. And we desperately need Shaw and/or Rafael to get back to provide some width. Shaw and Rojo as backup for LWB will be alright, but the right side with Rafael and Valencia is looking light with their injury record. All in all with Rojo and Di Maria in the side I hope we will be able to overcome Burnley.
I mainly liked the "FML!!!!!!!!!!" bit, with the subsequent angry face.
Rooney wasn't my choice of captain either. But if not him, then I don't see who else it could be. We are completely lacking in leaders.
Should have just given it to David De Gea, for being the best human being.--------- De Gea -------------
Rafael --Smalling -- Jones-- Rojo
------Herrera -- Fletcher------
Di Maria --Rooney -Mata
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RVP off the bench, he isn't fit yet.
It actually looks like a very capable team on paper imo. And although being a bit overcrowded in areas can make selection difficult, its gives us options if something simply isn't working in a game.With young and valencia as the wingbacks, you've basically taken out your fullbacks from last year and replaced them with a centreback and an attacking playmaker.
I think even teams like Burnley will fancy scoring goals against that.XI:
de GeaThis is under the assumption that Herrera and Smalling are still not ready to return otherwise the former displaces Cleverley.
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Blackett
Fletcher
Cleverley - di Maria
Mata
Januzaj - Rooney
Subs: Amos, Evans, Valencia, Young, Welbeck, van Persie, Hernandez
1-3 and a di Maria inspired performance.dont wanna see fletcher or cleverley at our midfield.
if herrerra not able to play, I prefer Andreas Pereira.
if we dont sign additional midfield, Give that position to Phil Jones.
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----------Rafael----------Smalling------------Rojo-----------Blackett-----------
--------------------------Jones------------Pereira-----------------------------
-----------------------------------Mata---------------------------------------
-----------------Rooney-----------------------------Di Maria-------------------
----------------------------------Van Persie-----------------------------------
that should be enough to grab our first three point.Last edited:Rafael won't start surely? He hasn't played a game in yonks.I wonder who will get injured this weekend...
This isn't a prediction, but it's fun.
De Gea
Rafael Jones Blackett Rojo
Fletcher
Di Maria Mata Januzaj
Van Persie Rooney
If we use this line-up, i'd rather have Welbeck on the LW and Mata behind RooneyBased on who played on Tuesday:
de GeaSubs: Amos,Valencia,M.Keane,Januzaj,Wilson,Welbeck,Fletcher
Jones - Rojo - Blackett
Rafael - Cleverley - di Maria - Young
Mata
RVP - Rooney
Young shouldn't be anywhere near our first team. We're better off with Rafael - Keane - Jones - Blackett - Rojo (or some version of that)
I'll agree with you on that but like I said my prediction was based on the Tuesday line-up.If it's my choice then sorry, I'd better off with Pereira or Pearson instead of Cleverley.Feeling confident, think we can snatch a point here.
But in all seriousness I think we'll stutter to a draw. It's getting to the point where as long as there is some kind of performance improvement I'll be satisfied.
Fair enough. I was just looking at the back line and noted that Young's first two performances have been shocking too. As for the rest of your selection, i'd agree that Cleverley should be dropped but i wouldn't settle with a midfield two with ADM there, we'll get run over quite easily there. Sad thing is that there's no way to fix that since none of the players we have are strong enough defensively (in a big game, i'd play Jones there if we're desperate).Who's out for this game then?
He is, and I can show you the stats to prove it. Since when did Fletcher and Cleverley have a good touch?? Did you not watch our last game? It is not the most important attribute of a defensive midfielder anyway.
For reference, this is the three of them, and carrick who is better than all 3, compared in defensive stats last season:
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ces/blocks/aerial_duels_won/defence_score#avg
Fellaini has far better defensive stats than Cleverley and Fletcher. Touch is not so important when you are a shield in front of the defence.What players are clearly not playing this upcoming weekend?
Smalling, Shaw, Carrick, Lingard .... Is that it? Maybe Kagawa after the concussion?de Gea
Valencia Jones Blackett Rojo
Fletcher Herrera
Mata
Di Maria van Persie Rooney
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Amos; Smalling; Cleverley, Young, Januzaj; Welbeck, Wilson
Might favour Smalling or Jones at Right Back, or could still persevere with the 352... I'd keep Blackett in the side as he's looked good and Evans had an absolute mare against MK Dons.I think we'll draw there and it won't be a bad result all things considered.Let's play both Januzaj and Di Maria.-----------De Gea---------
Rafael--Evans--Rojo---Blackett---
-----------Jones---------------
-----Herrera----Di Maria-----
------------Mata------------
-----Januzaj-----RVP---------
I would like to see this(a 4-4-2 Diamond) Evans was dreadful last game but he seems a lot more comfortable in a back 4. Jones as a CDM . Herrera and Di Maria our midfielders, with Di Maria being the more advanced(where he is most effective, with a box to box midfielder and a DMF behind him). The change in our play through the middle with this formation would be immeasurable. One of Rooney/RVP dropped. With this formation we need to stretch defenses with at least one of the strikers and Rooney/RVP aren't really capable of this. Di Maria will provide a bit of width on the other side along with Blackett and Rafael moving up the field at the right moments.
What are your thoughts?Last edited:De Gea
Rafael/Valencia
Evans
Jones
Rojo
Herrera
Fletcher
Di Maria
Mata
Januzaj
Rooney
What do you think of the team I have under your original post?
I don't like jones in midfield. He's too clumsy IMO.
I'm not a fan either but our other midfield options don't exactly fill me with confidence either. Jones sole job would be defensive duties here though, with Di Maria and Herrera more than capable of carrying out the attacking duties. Someone like De Jong, or even Carrick there instead would make this formation perfect imo.
Is Herrera fit for tomorrow? I thought he wouldn't be given he just started training. Would be a huge positive.I'm not a fan either but our other midfield options don't exactly fill me with confidence either. Jones sole job would be defensive duties here though, with Di Maria and Herrera more than capable of carrying out the attacking duties. Someone like De Jong, or even Carrick there instead would make this formation perfect imo.
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Runners-up
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16%
Phil Jones
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7%
David de Gea
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2%
Tyler Blackett
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Anderson
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Antonio Valencia
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Ashley Young
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 473 ratings.
Score Predictions
559,189,81
- Man Utd win
- Burnley win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 17% Burnley 1:2 Man Utd
- 12% Burnley 0:2 Man Utd
- 11% Burnley 1:3 Man Utd
- 10% Burnley 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% Burnley 5:0 Man Utd
- 6% Burnley 2:1 Man Utd
- 6% Burnley 1:1 Man Utd
- 4% Burnley 0:4 Man Utd
- 4% Burnley 0:1 Man Utd
- 3% Burnley 2:0 Man Utd
- 3% Burnley 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% Burnley 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% Burnley 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Burnley 3:0 Man Utd
- 2% Burnley 3:1 Man Utd
- 2% Burnley 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Burnley 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Burnley 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Burnley 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% Burnley 4:0 Man Utd
- 1% Burnley 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 5:1 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 5:2 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 3:5 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 4:2 Man Utd
- 0% Burnley 4:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Burnley
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 36% 64%
- Shots
- 9 7
- Shots on Target
- 3 2
- Corners
- 3 6
- Fouls
- 10 14
Referee
Chris Foy
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Anderson
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replaced by Adnan Januzaj
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replaced by Danny Welbeck
