Champions League Group A

Bayern Munich 4:3 Manchester United

Allianz Arena

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Wed, 20 September 2023 @ 8:00pm BST
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    I have been fully behind ETH so far, but this is completely on ETH. Yeah he can't do anything about Onana mistake but how do we keep doing this?



    How does he keep playing Eriksen? If even we can see this?
     
    Poor mistake from Onana for the first, he gets done by the deflection and the spin it puts on the ball, but he should still save it really. Schoolboy defending for the second goal lindelof and Casemerio drawn to the ball, eriksen nowhere and Martinez and Regulion both marking Kane. Laughable really.

    Other than that we have arguably been the better side. But if you don't take your chances and make mistakes like that teams like Bayern will eat you up.

    If get one back we have a chance of getting something out of it but a third goal for Bayern and it's good night.
     
    Disappointing how we just collapsed after conceding such a terrible goal. We had started so well.
     
    Even if Bayern needs a more balanced approach, I feel Bayern with Tuchel is regressing too much. Especially in spirit, where's the adventurous and bold element? Too much emphasis on security is making Bayern less mobile and slow.
    Kane needs time to integrate into the collective, for now he's barely getting involved.
    Also, where's the high pressure?!
     
    I’m sick of hearing this game could be different if such a goal went in… was the same against Brighton. If that goal stood we could have won. We need to move on from not scoring and try to score the next possible chance! Can’t live on what ifs
     
    AndySmith1990 said:
    Says the person who said we'd beat Brighton easily. All you do is mindlessly spout predictions about us winning everything and nothing ever going wrong
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    And we would, we ate them in first half. Keep being miserable though, good luck with that.
     
    In Rainbows said:
    The defense had an in form Casemiro and Martinez, along with healthy Shaw and Varane. Why are people ignoring this.

    Can't we just say Onana has been crap without bringing up de Gea?
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    That's as true as them also having trust in their keeper. It was a team thing. We saw it last season many times.

    We have broken that unit and it's fallen apart. I'm not saying De Gea was the lynchpin but that the trust between them all just worked.

    They don't have that now.
     
    Dazzmondo said:
    Yep, I know he got a pretty bad injury but I'm very concerned by his drop off. Varane was by far our best cb this season and as expected he got injured. Without him we've been horrible.
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    Probably because he’s playing alongside Lindelof. Because Maguire is the scapegoat, Lindelof has got off lightly. Another player which should have been sold and replaced a long time ago.
     
    We were actually looking ok but when your keeper let's a pea roller in you have no chance.

    Second half is a try and get out with no worse than a 3 nil defeat job turn the game off, go to sleep and hope we do better v Burnley, or we're in a real crisis zone.
     
    Crimson King said:
    There's no one we could get that would do any better. I'd rather they persevered with him until they could actually get someone in with a long term strategy in mind, not just a reactionary appointment.

    The only clock you'd be resetting is on the whole team ever being successful again.
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    Maybe true but you have to have standards. Can't regress like this.

    If it keeps going it's unsustainable
     
    Imagine van Nistelrooy being presented with the chance Pellistri had. Ruud would have put the ball, Davies and Ulriech in the net and ran off celebrating like a madman.
     
    sixdwarf said:
    What gets me is Bayern don't have to play that well to be two up.
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    It's got me worried about Burnley and Palace. I thought we'd have plenty even with our issues, but I don't think they will be much worse than Bayern.

    Fluctuation0161 said:
    Too early to be sure. But so far, who can argue with that.

    I can say he looks great on the ball. But shot stopping on big nights is key.
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    I don't think he even looks great on the ball. Better than De Gea, but I've seen plenty of keepers who look better.

    JagUTD said:
    Nah, pointless. Things are fecked and it's about a lot more than the manager. He's got an impossible job with everything going on and a few minor mistakes plus failing to get a proper keeper to sign a contract can't be used against him as if this is all his fault.
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    Didn't Ten Hag withdraw DDGs contract after he'd signed it?

    Hakara said:
    I already said it. Upa isn't a bad defender.
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    He's not done anything wrong so far, but he looks a disaster waiting to happen to me.
     
    Wednesday at Stoke said:
    it was Martinez that fecked up for Gnabry goal. Lindelof hasn’t done much wrong today.
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    Rio saying it should have been Martinez, but I think your both wrong.
    Martinez is keeping tight on Kane who would be unmarked in front of goal if he’d pulled away and run over to Gnabry.

    Gnabry made an unchallenged 20 yard run into the space, with Casemiro sucked over towards the ball and Eriksen lost in midfield, not spotting Gnabry.
     
    DJ_21 said:
    I’m sick of hearing this game could be different if such a goal went in… was the same against Brighton. If that goal stood we could have won. We need to move on from not scoring and try to score the next possible chance! Can’t live on what ifs
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    This. Still 45 mins let's have a go!
     
    Walters_19_MuFc said:
    Lindelof is an easy target.

    Actually, Sane has got in behind countless times because Martinez and Reguilon have been caught out of position.
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    Reguilon seems to have the remit to go forward though and Eriksen is ending up in the box as well, so I’m not sure what the defensive plan for that flank is.
     
    Marcelinho87 said:
    No? I got the complete opposite, the team were shit scared with him in goal as he wouldn't claim a damn thing.
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    Go back and watch the reactions to when the defence or keeper did a routine thing. They all celebrated it as a small win. They fought for everything.

    Everything now is disconnected
     
    Jeffthered said:
    Onana is a proven, top keeper. Let's not suggest that this was expected. He'll be ok, it's just unfortunate and the way everything is going right now. I'm not worried about him, and we ALL wanted a new keeper. Every keeper drops a clanger or two during a long season. I don't expect him to make this the norm, so let's settle down a bit.
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    He is not. He had one very good season with Inter, good performances with Ajax but nowhere near the assurance to be a top keeper. Not saying that he won't find consistency with United or won't be great eventually but you didn't get a prime Oblak or Courtois.
     
    fps said:
    Every run and sprint they make it feels like that’s the last one they’ve got in the tank. I’ve felt this for ages. Like they’ve got a chip on the shoulder whenever they have to run.
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    I think it’s a combination of laziness and the way we play football. Everything’s done at 100mph, there’s no composed build up play, it’s just hoof it forward as quick as possible then we lose possession high up and get countered and have to bust a gut to get back, rinse and repeat. It doesn’t help we’re terrible at retaining possession so we constantly have to chase the ball down and press the opposition which tires us out even more. 30 minutes into a game and we look fecked and matters are made even worse by the fact we have 2 players in the middle of the park in Casemiro and Eriksen whose legs have completely gone.
     
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  • Man Utd win
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Possession
60% 40%
Shots
19 9
Shots on Target
9 4
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7 3
Fouls
8 8

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