Arsenal 2:0 Manchester United

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

Esquire said:
I hear you mate. That's why I'm more disappointed than upset. Boy we better win on Thursday...

We better win the final too. Putting all eggs in one basket is a huge risk now . Celta would have no pressure a old Trafford ,we brought it on ourselves even in a lead.

Enigma_87 · May 7, 2017

Dr. Funkenstein said:
Unbeaten runs are nice for midtable clubs, consistently earning one point is not good enough. That's not caused by improvement but by defensive tactics.

It's a good foundation to have a solid defence. IMO we don't have the same quality as the rest of the top teams going forward. A lot of our forwards are under performing. Jose should address that in the Summer no doubt.

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

Reaferia said:
Agree, but I'm sure that has to do with our limited defensive options, after Ashley Young get injured, and Valencia is fatigued, reserved for the second leg EL.

No proper wingbacks for 343, so might as well try with the wingers playing more defensive and provide the paces during attacks.

It kinda works for a short while during the first half, but Arsenal adapted to it quickly. Our players are fatigued may also play a big part in that too.

I would have stuck darmian and olosunde as wingbacks, a balanced team is much more better than a team who needs to work hard or sit deep.

GM K · May 7, 2017

prtk0811 said:
They were playing 343 so we should have matched it , a 4 man defense full back can never overlap a wingback

Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 against a 3-4-3. Think about it, our problem today was our players. Rooney's contribution was poor. Same can be said of Mikhi and Martial. That's like minus three players. Carrick was Average, same can be said of Herrera and Mata. Minus Valencia (and Bailly and Rojo to good extent), our defenders offer zero to attacks and that has a lot to do with their capabilities. We had no player dominating the game. That's what we missed and we have been missing.

Dr. Funkenstein · May 7, 2017

Enigma_87 said:
It's a good foundation to have a solid defence. IMO we don't have the same quality as the rest of the top teams going forward. A lot of our forwards are under performing. Jose should address that in the Summer no doubt.

You can keep buying expensive players until Brexit devaluates the Pound, but the team that plays better football will always beat the team with the best players if the differences in class aren't that great.

The Brown Bull · May 7, 2017

antohan said:
Two in hand as we haven't played today yet.[/QUOTE

As I was saying.....

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

GM K said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 against a 3-4-3. Think about it, our problem today was our players. Rooney's contribution was poor. Same can be said of Mikhi and Martial. That's like minus three players. Carrick was Average, same can be said of Herrera and Mata. Minus Valencia (and Bailly and Rojo to good extent), our defenders offer zero to attacks and that has a lot to do with their capabilities. We had no player dominating the game. That's what we missed and we have been missing.

Well , then it does require high work rate players on the wings, which we lack and hence lack of balance.

Will Absolute · May 7, 2017

MadDogg said:
It will be Spurs last ever match at White Hart Lane though, so it'll be emotional for sure. It may work for them or against them though.

3 hours ago. I was so optimistic when I was younger.

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

We absolutely do need high work rate wingers in our team.

Enigma_87 · May 7, 2017

Dr. Funkenstein said:
You can keep buying expensive players until Brexit devaluates the Pound, but the team that plays better football will always beat the team with the best players if the differences in class aren't that great.

Or the pound can go up. The EU will lose from Brexit as well.

Football is money oriented and more often than not bringing quality is the way to go at the very top. Jose is the right manager to work with expensive players and getting the results. I don't see any other options really at the moment.

Dr. Funkenstein · May 7, 2017

Enigma_87 said:
Or the pound can go up. The EU will lose from Brexit as well.

Football is money oriented and more often than not bringing quality is the way to go at the very top.

For the very top that certainly isn't enough. Great football is expensive, but it's not for sale.

Jose is the right manager to work with expensive players and getting the results. I don't see any other options really at the moment.

That seems the main difference with last season, there's a much more positive atmosphere around the manager now because there has to be by lack of another option. If for example Scholes was a successful manager at a small club by now Mourinho would have been in serious trouble. The last time Mourinho proved to be the right manager to work with expensive players is already quite a while ago.

GM K · May 7, 2017

prtk0811 said:
Well , then it does require high work rate players on the wings, which we lack and hence lack of balance.

Good point.

GM K · May 7, 2017

prtk0811 said:
We better win the final too. Putting all eggs in one basket is a huge risk now . Celta would have no pressure a old Trafford ,we brought it on ourselves even in a lead.

Celta will be under a lot of pressure at Old Trafford. They need an away goal and they need to beat us on Thursday. That's enough pressure.

GM K · May 7, 2017

Enigma_87 said:
On Mkhitaryan - he usually under performs in a new club and requires a season of adaptation so hopefully we'll see much better player next year. Has shown some promise so it's not all over for him.

I agree and I really hope so.

Enigma_87 · May 7, 2017

Dr. Funkenstein said:
For the very top that certainly isn't enough. Great football is expensive, but it's not for sale.

That seems the main difference with last season, there's a much more positive atmosphere around the manager now because there has to be by lack of another option. If for example Scholes was a successful manager at a small club by now Mourinho would have been in serious trouble. The last time Mourinho proved to be the right manager to work with expensive players is already quite a while ago.

I'd back a manager who has done it rather one that never did. If we win EL we would have won 2 cups this season which is positive step and would instill some winning mentality in the players. Long way to go to compete with the very best, but we don't have that many options at the moment.

Spend big and back Mourinho has been a successful plan in the past and probably only option for us at this point.

Jeffthered · May 7, 2017

We need a natural, left-footed, attacking player who may actually play ON THE LEFT. All these players / forwards / something all look to cut inside, roam around etc... ( Lindgaard, Mikatahriyhan, Martial, Mata...) Only Rashford, Marcus Rashford, the only play at Manchester United to actually attack players, TAKE THEM ON (like actually go around them, beat..) hit the byline, at pace, and cross a ball. Rashford looks MILES more dangerous than any of our attacking players. How is that? It's a joke.

Defensively we have been excellent (in my opinion) this season. But attacking wise, we just seem flat. Too many players who just haven't been good enough. Man Utd should have players who can produce a little magic every now and then. We have too many attacking players who would be good at mid-table clubs. Someone made a good point, stating that Lindgaard would be good at Arsenal. Like Welbeck. Like Nani. Like Gibson. Like Cleverley. Like Januzaj. Like Zaha. Just not good enough. I'm fed up with watching and paying to watch Man Utd players whi simply are not good ENOUGH. They are decent. Some good... but not good ENOUGH.

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