Europa League Group A

Fenerbahce 2:1 Manchester United

Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium

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Thu, 3 November 2016 @ 6:00pm GMT
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    Date - Thursday, November 03 2016
    Kickoff Time - 18:00 GMT
    Venue - Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium, Istanbul

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    Europa League form guide

    2. Manchester United: LWW

    3. Fenerbahçe: DWL


    Previous Meetings In All Competitions

    Manchester United 4-1 Fenerbahçe

    Fenerbahçe 3-0 Manchester United

    Manchester United 6-2 Fenerbahçe

    Manchester United 0-1 Fenerbahçe

    Fenerbahçe 0-2 Manchester United


    All-Time Record

    Manchester United wins: 3
    Fenerbahçe wins: 2
    Draws: 0


    Pre-Match Pressers

    José Mourinho



    Dick Advocaat




    Team News

    Manchester United

    Bastian Schweinsteiger, Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling and Eric Bailly ruled out.

    Fenerbahçe

    Fernandão ruled out. Ozan Tufan doubtful.


    Know the opposition

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    Fenerbahçe Spor Kulübü, also known as Fenerbahçe or just Fener (and nicknamed Sarı Kanaryalar - Yellow Canaries), is a Turkish professional football club based in Istanbul, playing in the Süper Lig. Fenerbahçe was founded in 1907 in Kadıköy, istanbul, by local men Ziya Songülen, Ayetullah Bey and Necip Okaner. This group of individuals founded the club secretly in order to keep a low profile and not get into any trouble with the strict Ottoman rule, so strict that the Sultan Abdul Hamid II forbade the Turkish youth to set up a club or engage in the game of football played by the English families. Fenerbahçe's activities were kept in secrecy until a legislation reform in 1908, when, under a new law, all football clubs had to register to exist legally. Fenerbahçe joined the Istanbul Football League in 1909, finishing fifth in their first year.

    Today, Fenerbahçe is a major multi-sports club and competes in football, baskteball, volleyball, athletics, swimming, sailing, rowing, boxing and table tennis with many major honors won in each. The football side of Fenerbahçe is one of the most successful and best supported teams in Turkey - having never been relegated to lower divisions; and winning 34 domestic trophies, including 19 Süper Lig titles, six Turkish Cups and 9 Turkish Super Cups. "The big three" clubs of Istanbul (Beşiktaş, Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe) have a century-long history of rivalry. The Fenerbahçe-Galatasaray rivalry is the primary Istanbul derby and the most important rivalry in Turkish football; matches between the two teams are known as Kıtalar Arası Derbi ("Intercontinental Derby"). The rivalry was started on 23 February 1934, when a friendly game between both clubs turned into a riot, and the match had to be abandoned, and is infamous for the volatile atmosphere on gameday. Fenerbahçe play their home games at the Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium in Kadıköy, Istanbul.


    Referee

    Milorad Mažić.​
     
    I would start Zlatan in this and if he fluffs his chances like he has been drop him for the subsequent league game. Mkhi at the very least deserves a place on the bench, I hope Martial is also fit again.

    Edit: Zlatan is suspended for the next league game right?
     
    Just feck Zlatan off and start Rashford up front.

    Would Mkhitarayan be considered? This is in Turkey, and he is Armenian.
     
    I don't even want this game, all I care about at this point is the league. I'd rather win our league games and lose Europa and EFL cup games than drop points in the league and win in the cups. We'd be better off without the distraction.
     
    I would give Zlatan a break. Put Rooney up front. Play Depay maybe as well. I would give Pogba a break also.
     
    El Zoido said:
    I don't even want this game, all I care about at this point is the league. I'd rather win our league games and lose Europa and EFL cup games than drop points in the league and win in the cups. We'd be better off without the distraction.
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    At this rate we've got more of a chance of winning the Europa and getting CL football that way instead of trying for top 4. We're so far away from the others it's unreal.
     
    I dont think Zlatan would travel for this even if he was scoring for fun. 35 years old and travelling midweek to Turkey is unnecessary.

    Quite sure we'll start Rooney or Rashford upfront.
     
    Need a win somehow. At this rate, we best hope to get lucky in this competition to have a chance at CL football.
    Put Ibra's ass on the bench and play Martial and that Miki guy.
     
    Europa League could be our entry route into the CL. Unless people want top 4 specifically, the end result is the same, and we should start taking this very seriously if we aren't already. In fact don't EL winners skip qualification?

    Either way I want to see a strong team, but without Ibra please. I hope Martial will be fit, and for the love of god Mkhi on the fecking bench at the very least man.
     
    Raw said:
    At this rate we've got more of a chance of winning the Europa and getting CL football that way instead of trying for top 4. We're so far away from the others it's unreal.
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    I agree. I think we should just concentrate on Europa now. I think the top four is gone. I mean try and win our home games as well. Teams like Liverpool and chelsea have such an advantage with no midweek fixtures. The sharpness is missing from our play.

    The players badly need a rest.
     
    Please for god's sake rest ALL players that are going to start vs Swansea. Enough of using the same players over and over again in all matches.

    Romero
    Mensah - Carrick - Rojo - Young
    Schneiderlin - Herrera
    Miki - Rooney - Depay
    Martial​
     
    Samid said:
    Please for god's sake rest ALL players that are going to start vs Swansea. Enough of using the same players over and over again in all matches.

    Romero
    Mensah - Carrick - Rojo - Young
    Schneiderlin - Herrera
    Miki - Rooney - Depay
    Martial​
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    Don't you think Europa is looking pretty damn important to do that though?
     
    Raw said:
    Just feck Zlatan off and start Rashford up front.

    Would Mkhitarayan be considered? This is in Turkey, and he is Armenian.
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    Yeah can't see him playing this one. It's be incredibly stupid if mourinho picked this as his game to bring him back.
     
    DDG
    Darmian-Smalling-Blind-Shaw
    Carrick
    Timbo-Herrera
    Mkhitaryan-Rashford-Martial​
     
    VP89 said:
    I dont think Zlatan would travel for this even if he was scoring for fun. 35 years old and travelling midweek to Turkey is unnecessary.

    Quite sure we'll start Rooney or Rashford upfront.
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    I think it's time to stop wasting Rashford on the line. He has to play #9, with Ibrahimović or Mata behind him depending of the game.
     
    I'm starting to feel that we need to go all in in the EL. it's looking like our best shot for a place in the CL next season. Also a client of the company I work for told me he might get tickets for the final :D
     
    Raw said:
    At this rate we've got more of a chance of winning the Europa and getting CL football that way instead of trying for top 4. We're so far away from the others it's unreal.
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    True, but pinning your hopes on a cup is crazy, there's an element of luck to them especially when you're not even the best team in it.
     
    El Zoido said:
    True, but pinning your hopes on a cup is crazy, there's an element of luck to them especially when you're not even the best team in it.
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    True, especially this early. If we're in the quarters and we still look way off top 4 then I'd start concentrating on the Europa.
     
    Hed Zitin said:
    Better start taking this seriously if we want CL.
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    Number of starts by players in EL:

    Bailly (3)
    Mata (3)
    Pogba (3)
    Smalling (3)
    Darmian (2)
    De Gea (2)
    Lingard (2)
    Martial (2)
    Rashford (2)
    Rojo (2)
    Carrick (1)
    Fellaini (1)
    Fosu-Mensah (1)
    Herrera (1)
    Ibrahimovic (1)
    Romero (1)
    Rooney (1)
    Schneiderlin (1)
    Shaw (1)

    I'd say that a typical side of:

    De Gea
    Darmian Bailly Smalling Rojo
    xxx Pogba
    Lingard Mata Martial
    Rashford
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    Is taking it seriously when 7 of them are starters in the league when everyone is fit. No starts for Young and Memphis, and only one for the likes of Fellaini, Fosu-Mensah and Schneiderlin.
     
    What I HOPE will happen, but we all know won't:

    De gea
    Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
    Schneiderlin
    Herrera Mata
    Mkhitaryan Rashford Martial​
     
    I think the question of resting players won't come so much on this game, but more on afterwards, the traveling and then going to play Swansea.
     
    We know how this goes.
    Play a strong team, grind out a result, get tired and drop points in the next game.
     
    Niall said:
    Let the discussion begin...
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    Honestly man, please let other people make Match day threads. Its a superstition thing, but just give it a try. We have had feck all luck since you ve made them. No slight on you but let someone else do it. Just give it a try, if results dont improve you can take over again.

    On the match, Play mkhi please fecking score. Give Ibra a rest maybe that will help him regain his form. Play Pogba as he finally seems to be getting on his game and disrupting that would be bad. Just win.
     
    Maradona10 said:
    Honestly man, please let other people make Match day threads. Its a superstition thing, but just give it a try. We have had feck all luck since you ve made them. No slight on you but let someone else do it. Just give it a try, if results dont improve you can take over again.

    On the match, Play mkhi please fecking score. Give Ibra a rest maybe that will help him regain his form. Play Pogba as he finally seems to be getting on his game and disrupting that would be bad. Just win.
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    The results of football matches have slightly less than jack shit to do with who makes forum threads.
     
    Time to start Miki & Depay. Out first team is desperately missing an in form wide player and these games should be used to see if we can edge these 2 into any sort of form.

    Most important thing about the game for me.
     
    Must. Score.

    Thought we played well today from what I saw and I think if we keep it going we'll get a win in Turkey. Last season a 0-0 would have been one shot on target, three corners and insanely boring. Today I thought overall unlucky and we need to not get too disheartened.
     
    Maradona10 said:
    Honestly man, please let other people make Match day threads. Its a superstition thing, but just give it a try. We have had feck all luck since you ve made them. No slight on you but let someone else do it. Just give it a try, if results dont improve you can take over again.

    On the match, Play mkhi please fecking score. Give Ibra a rest maybe that will help him regain his form. Play Pogba as he finally seems to be getting on his game and disrupting that would be bad. Just win.
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    After today's disappointment this at least cheered me up :lol:
     
    Roll on the next game, need a win to pretty much get qualification sorted.

    Got to rest Ibra surely,.. surely!
     
    I hope we don't waste Carrick on this game, I'd keep the midfield and defense the same and just freshen up the forward line.

     
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Score Predictions

389,70,140
  • Man Utd win
  • Fenerbahce win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 21% Fenerbahce 1:2 Man Utd
  • 16% Fenerbahce 1:1 Man Utd
  • 12% Fenerbahce 0:1 Man Utd
  • 12% Fenerbahce 0:2 Man Utd
  • 10% Fenerbahce 1:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Fenerbahce 0:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Fenerbahce 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Fenerbahce 1:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Fenerbahce 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Fenerbahce 2:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Fenerbahce 5:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Fenerbahce 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Fenerbahce 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Fenerbahce 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Fenerbahce 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Fenerbahce 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Fenerbahce 0:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 4:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 5:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Fenerbahce 3:3 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Fenerbahce
  2. Man Utd
Possession
30% 70%
Shots
8 9
Shots on Target
4 3
Corners
0 9
Fouls
16 15

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Milorad Mazic

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