Sir Alex Ferguson prepares to clear decks at Old Trafford

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Manchester United are expected to open contract talks with several players in the coming weeks as the club begin a critical phase of long-term planning over the next seven months. This will feature an extensive reshaping of the first-team squad.

Six senior players are out of contract at the end of the season and a further ten have less than 18 months left on their deals.

Of the six out of contract in the summer, at least four will leave the club. Edwin van der Sar and Gary Neville, the goalkeeper and club captain respectively, are preparing to retire, while Owen Hargreaves, the perennially injured midfield player, will not be offered a new deal. United are not expected to take up the option of a third year in Michael Owen’s contract, which would leave the striker a free agent.

Sir Alex Ferguson, the manager, is likely to sit down with Paul Scholes towards the end of the season to determine the 36-year-old midfield player’s thoughts about carrying on and David Gill, the chief executive, indicated yesterday that another veteran, Ryan Giggs, will, at 37, be offered a new one-year contract, saying that the situation would be “addressed in the next month or so”.

A similar situation applies to Michael Carrick and Darren Fletcher, who are likely to be the first of that large group of players out of contract in June 2012 to open discussions about new deals.

Carrick’s days at Old Trafford appeared to be numbered as recently as a few months ago, but his form has improved. While the prospect of the England midfield player leaving in the summer cannot be discounted, a meeting has been arranged for the next few weeks to begin preliminary talks about an extension to his contract.

Negotiations will also begin with Fletcher’s advisers about a new deal for the Scotland captain. Dimitar Berbatov, the striker, Park Ji Sung, the midfield player, and John O’Shea, the defender, turn 30 in the next few months and United are thought to be happy to wait until the end of the season to address their futures, with all of them eager to stay at the club.

A meeting with O’Shea’s representatives to discuss a contract extension has been pencilled in for May or early June.

Wes Brown, the defender with whom Ferguson fell out after a run-in last summer, and Tomasz Kuszczak, the goalkeeper, will not be offered new deals and are firmly expected to be sold, if not this month then in the summer. Uncertainty surrounds the futures of Patrice Evra and Ritchie de Laet, the full backs, and Darron Gibson, the midfield player, who are also out of contract in June next year.

With Van der Sar, Neville, Hargreaves and Owen on their way out and Scholes yet to decide what the future holds, Ferguson could see as many as ten senior players leave the club in the summer, a cull that will pave the way for a raft of signings.

Evra’s situation is of the most immediate concern to United, although the France left back’s agent, Federico Pastorello, said a fortnight ago that talks about a new deal were on hold until the summer.

Real Madrid and Barcelona are monitoring Evra’s situation closely and United have been actively scouring the market for a left back in case the Frenchman leaves, with Fábio Coentrão, of Benfica and Portugal, one potential target.

Gill insisted yesterday that United are still able to compete with the likes of Manchester City and Real for the world’s best players, even though he suggested that the club were unlikely to deviate from their policy of signing emerging talents rather than established stars. “We can compete for top players,” Gill said.

“People say we don’t, but we have bought well and our goal at Manchester United is to make sure we develop our own players and also buy good players.”

Asked if United had the funds to sign a player of the calibre of Kaká, the Real forward, should someone such as that become available, Gill added: “If we wanted to. Over time, if you follow Manchester United, you will know we have rarely bought the world star. We have made them world stars by playing for Manchester United and that will continue.”

United have a strong interest in Jordan Henderson, the Sunderland and England midfield player, as well as Jack Rodwell, of Everton, both of whom have been monitored closely, but they are likely to face competition from City and Arsenal for both players.

Ferguson has already recruited Anders Lindegaard, the Denmark goalkeeper who signed from Aalesund for £3.5 million this month, but the manager is in the market for another goalkeeper, with David de Gea, of Atlético Madrid, a leading candidate to replace Van der Sar.

United are also thought to be keeping tabs on Ashley Young, the Aston Villa forward, who is out of contract at Villa Park in 18 months.

Ferguson is eager to ensure that the foundations are in place for when he does leave the club, although Gill refused to be drawn yesterday on whether José Mourinho, the Real coach formerly in charge of Chelsea and Inter Milan, would be in the running to replace the Scot eventually.

“Alex is on a rolling contract, he is on the record as saying that he will continue to manage as long as he keeps fit so, in answer to the question, while we follow what is happening in football, I am not going to sit here today and say who we have in mind because we don’t know what the time frame is,” Gill said.

“I am sure there are some other good managers around. [Mourinho is] a good manager.”


This is an article in today's times.

Personally Moyes is still my favourite to replace SAF.

Forgive me administrators is there's a thread already started.
 

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It'll be interesting to see what happens with all our players. Also, why do you want Moyes to be the manager? While he does have a budget of £4 and a bag of minstrels(possibly stolen), he's not proven to be very consistent or successful. I think Jose is a bit of an inevitability to take over after Fergie calls it quits. I'd love for him to be back in England, and he's the best available. He'd be given the free reign he wants and would play better football than Moyes.
 

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and Evra has already said he'll only be signing for United and isn't interested in any other team. I like the way the media have completly ignored that and carried on with the Evra to Spain stuff, very similar to the Vidic stuff over last year.
 

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I've admittedly not seen enough of Henderson to comment in all honesty and whilst he looks decent enough, could he be another Nigel Reo-Coker, Kevin Nolan or Steve Sidwell? A good player at a smaller club looking the dogs until they move to a big(ger) club and get made to look ordinary?
 

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Yeah, lets give David Moyes the biggest job in World football...

Sometimes I wonder whether some Utd fans actually understand the size of the club and the fact that when Alex leaves it will be front page news the world over.

This isn't just another manager, this isn't simply "a big job", this will be the biggest managerial opportunity in World football to come up in decades. Does David Moyes really strike anyone as even a candidate to handle that?
 

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Yeah, what's with Moyes? He's another O'Neill for me, I can't understand why people want him either.
It's looking ever more likely to be Mourinho and I don't doubt his ability, I'm just worried he will be there for a couple of seasons and do one in a huff causing disruption like he does with all the clubs he's been at....
 

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Yeah, lets give David Moyes the biggest job in World football...

Sometimes I wonder whether some Utd fans actually understand the size of the club and the fact that when Alex leaves it will be front page news the world over.

This isn't just another manager, this isn't simply "a big job", this will be the biggest managerial opportunity in World football to come up in decades. Does David Moyes really strike anyone as even a candidate to handle that?
Oh ah *wink*
 

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Yeah, lets give David Moyes the biggest job in World football...

Sometimes I wonder whether some Utd fans actually understand the size of the club and the fact that when Alex leaves it will be front page news the world over.

This isn't just another manager, this isn't simply "a big job", this will be the biggest managerial opportunity in World football to come up in decades. Does David Moyes really strike anyone as even a candidate to handle that?
spot fecking on

Mourinho inevitably (unless Guardiola wants it)
 

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Mourinho inevitably (unless Guardiola wants it)
Guardiola is Barca through and through and right now, he's leading them very successfully so I don't see why he would want to leave there unless he felt bored with winning and wanted a new 'challenge' but that would surely be years away.
Mourinho is looking ever more likely but knowing United, and if it's anything like our transfer, there may be a big surprise...
 

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spot fecking on

Mourinho inevitably (unless Guardiola wants it)
And if them 2 don't want it?

We might have to accept the job may need to go to a younger manager that doesn't have a load of silverware on his CV.

EDIT: I should point out i'm not saying I want Moyes, i'm just saying we might not be able to get the only 2 stand out candidates that are out there.

Afterall, what had Guardiola done in management before?
 

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Yeah, lets give David Moyes the biggest job in World football...

Sometimes I wonder whether some Utd fans actually understand the size of the club and the fact that when Alex leaves it will be front page news the world over.

This isn't just another manager, this isn't simply "a big job", this will be the biggest managerial opportunity in World football to come up in decades. Does David Moyes really strike anyone as even a candidate to handle that?
This.


Also does this mean O'Shea didn't actually get that ridiculous mega-contract that was reported a while back?
 

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This.


Also does this mean O'Shea didn't actually get that ridiculous mega-contract that was reported a while back?
Anyone who believed that we'd offer O'Shea 80,000 a week needs their head screwed on the right way.
 

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Afterall, what had Guardiola done in management before?
That's irrelevant; in his first year of management, he won Copa del Rey, La Liga and the Champions League.
He's won La Liga again in his second season.
He's top of La Liga half way through his third season in management.
Two and half years and he's had two and half years of success...
 

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That's irrelevant; in his first year of management, he won Copa del Rey, La Liga and the Champions League.
He's won La Liga again in his second season.
He's top of La Liga half way through his third season in management.
Two and half years and he's had two and half years of success...
It's hard to know how good he is when his team is full of the best players in the world, or of their generation in some cases.
 

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It's hard to know how good he is when his team is full of the best players in the world, or of their generation in some cases.
Good point, but can't you say the same about Mourinho? Yes he did a good job at Porto but with Chelsea, Inter and Real he's walked into a club with endless riches and countless stars.

And Barcelona have never won the Treble before, and they've had teams just as good with Cruyff, Maradona, and the Dream Team of 1994 when they had Koeman, Ferrer, Enrique, Romario, Stoichkov, Nadal etc.
 

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Yeah, lets give David Moyes the biggest job in World football...

Sometimes I wonder whether some Utd fans actually understand the size of the club and the fact that when Alex leaves it will be front page news the world over.

This isn't just another manager, this isn't simply "a big job", this will be the biggest managerial opportunity in World football to come up in decades. Does David Moyes really strike anyone as even a candidate to handle that?
A top post.

Although this man is already a candidate for some Caftards. :P

https://www.redcafe.net/f6/holloway-replace-fergie-319075/
 

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Back on topic:

If there is a summer clear out (and certainly they'll be a few "squad first teamers" shown the door) then the question is will funds be released to restrengthen the squad or will we see the younger reserve/out on loan players fill the gaps and be expected to step up?

Will we be dipping into that reported £50mil in the bank transfer kitty Gill as been accuring interest on for the last two years?
 

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Whats more likely, O'Shea earnin 80k a week or Holloway taking over from Sir Alex? Only on the caf.
 

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André Villas Boas is doing well at Porto, the clubs always going on about how it makes superstars, what if they do it with a manager as well, hes only in his mid thirties so by the time Fergie retires hell be nearly 40 which is a good age to start.
 

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People were singing the praises of Paul Jewell around five years ago for doing wonders with Wigan Athletic, they were saying he was going to be a top club's manager soon.

Different scenario of course.
 

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People were singing the praises of Paul Jewell around five years ago for doing wonders with Wigan Athletic, they were saying he was going to be a top club's manager soon.

Different scenario of course.
Every time someone mentions Jewell, I remember that interview they did with him on Football Focus (I think) just after he'd moved to Derby. He was showing them around his new house and all he had in his fridge were several six-packs of lager. :lol:
 

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Good point, but can't you say the same about Mourinho? Yes he did a good job at Porto but with Chelsea, Inter and Real he's walked into a club with endless riches and countless stars.And Barcelona have never won the Treble before, and they've had teams just as good with Cruyff, Maradona, and the Dream Team of 1994 when they had Koeman, Ferrer, Enrique, Romario, Stoichkov, Nadal etc.
To be fair I think taking porto to the UEFA cup and then following that up with the Champions League is more than a good job, Chelsea was a fairly easy job when you consider that United was in transition and Arsenal declined rapidly. As for the Inter job again I would say he had a team that should win the Italian league easily but I don't think that team should have been good enough to win the Champions League.

As for Pep would be intrested to know how much say he has in the transfers at Barca because i read a lot about him really wanting Ibrahimovic and Macheranco and if he was responisble for those signings and not the board as is often the case in spain it would suggest he has poor judgement in the transfer market.
 

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Every time someone mentions Jewell, I remember that interview they did with him on Football Focus (I think) just after he'd moved to Derby. He was showing them around his new house and all he had in his fridge were several six-packs of lager. :lol:
Really, when I think of Paul Jewell from his Derby days, I think BS&M nowadays:nervous::nervous:
 

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feck i'm sick of this Guardiola crap. He's no better then half the managers in the PL. Even Dowie could lead that Barcelona side to victory especially in a league as weak as piss as La Liga. Surely with his rat piss performance against Inter last year shows just how limited as a manager he is. He had absolutely no clue what so ever. Atleast in our CL final Fergie changed it up at half time and we looked far more dangerous.
 

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feck i'm sick of this Guardiola crap. He's no better then half the managers in the PL. Even Dowie could lead that Barcelona side to victory especially in a league as weak as piss as La Liga. Surely with his rat piss performance against Inter last year shows just how limited as a manager he is. He had absolutely no clue what so ever. Atleast in our CL final Fergie changed it up at half time and we looked far more dangerous.
If that's true why didn't Rijkaard win it with the same squad?

Why didn't Cruyff win it with the incredible squad of 1993/94?
 

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If that's true why didn't Rijkaard win it with the same squad?

Why didn't Cruyff win it with the incredible squad of 1993/94?
Rijkaard did win a european cup and several la liga's. It also doesn't help that in his final year, his midfield was aging and lacked bite. 08/09 saw a newish team, cleared of old cannon fodder. I didn't say he was a rubbish manager, just that he is not one of the top managers in the world right now. I can think of 3 or 4 I'd much rather have.

As for Cryuff, four league titles and 1 european cup with that Barcelona side isn't exactly much to frown at. Sure he didn't get one in 93-94 but that Milan side was something else. Perhaps his ineptitude much like Guardiola against Inter last year, was brought to the fore in that thrashing?
 

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If that's true why didn't Rijkaard win it with the same squad?

Why didn't Cruyff win it with the incredible squad of 1993/94?
Well Rijkaard did win it and basically built the squad the Pep inherited. To his credit, Pep took to yet another level.
 

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feck i'm sick of this Guardiola crap. He's no better then half the managers in the PL. Even Dowie could lead that Barcelona side to victory especially in a league as weak as piss as La Liga. Surely with his rat piss performance against Inter last year shows just how limited as a manager he is. He had absolutely no clue what so ever. Atleast in our CL final Fergie changed it up at half time and we looked far more dangerous.
:lol: That's clearly rubbish.

He's probably not on the upper echelon of managers in the game today, such as SAF, Mourinho, Wenger etc but to step up from the B team manager and win virtually everything possible in his first year and a half shows he's pretty good.
 

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Rijkaard did win a european cup and several la liga's. It also doesn't help that in his final year, his midfield was aging and lacked bite. 08/09 saw a newish team, cleared of old cannon fodder. I didn't say he was a rubbish manager, just that he is not one of the top managers in the world right now. I can think of 3 or 4 I'd much rather have.

As for Cryuff, four league titles and 1 european cup with that Barcelona side isn't exactly much to frown at. Sure he didn't get one in 93-94 but that Milan side was something else. Perhaps his ineptitude much like Guardiola against Inter last year, was brought to the fore in that thrashing?
Well Rijkaard did win it and basically built the squad the Pep inherited. To his credit, Pep took to yet another level.
I'm not dissing these managers, quite the contrary I'm saying these great managers never were able to win what Guardiola won to point out Guardiola's credentials. To say he's no better than half the PL managers is ludicrous as he is managing the premier football side of the world right now and doing it very well.
 

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I wonder what will happen with Neville. He always strikes me as the guy to go into management. Obviously not managing Utd, as he doesn't have any experience.
Think they might offer him a role with the Utd reserves?
 

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Good point, but can't you say the same about Mourinho? Yes he did a good job at Porto but with Chelsea, Inter and Real he's walked into a club with endless riches and countless stars.

And Barcelona have never won the Treble before, and they've had teams just as good with Cruyff, Maradona, and the Dream Team of 1994 when they had Koeman, Ferrer, Enrique, Romario, Stoichkov, Nadal etc.
No you can't. Inter were perennial chokers in Europe for years. He won them the treble. That achievement is twice anything guardiola has done. Hid achievements at porto even further dwarf them. Even at chelseA he didn't walk into the worlds best team by a mile which had 3 of the 4 best players around.

In fact I still consider guardiola not anywhere near the best. We need to see him actually have to build a team or put together something of his own rather take a dream team to winning titles.
 

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I'm not dissing these managers, quite the contrary I'm saying these great managers never were able to win what Guardiola won to point out Guardiola's credentials. To say he's no better than half the PL managers is ludicrous as he is managing the premier football side of the world right now and doing it very well.
How did they not win everything Guardiola has? Perhaps they didn't win it in one whack but they've still won nearly every possible trophy bar the club world cup. I see hardly any difference between any of them in fact. They're good managers but they had superb teams that backed them up.
 

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Good point, but can't you say the same about Mourinho? Yes he did a good job at Porto but with Chelsea, Inter and Real he's walked into a club with endless riches and countless stars.

And Barcelona have never won the Treble before, and they've had teams just as good with Cruyff, Maradona, and the Dream Team of 1994 when they had Koeman, Ferrer, Enrique, Romario, Stoichkov, Nadal etc.
I don't think Mourinho's achievements at Porto can be discussed so flippantly.

It is much harder to judge Guardiola's achievements as he inherited an incredible group of players at the right time. So he might be a great manager, but I don't believe we can judge that based on what he has won.
 

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Mourinhos job when Ferguson steps down. Theres no one else who has the ego to think they can do better. He'd be perfect and i'm sure he'll greatly appreciate being able to manage the club without anyone holding him back. He'll be here for a while in my opinion.