Oh the irony...
All Ronaldo fanboys
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Oh the irony...
Yes absolutely. You're sad to see certain players go, I was gutted when Schmeichel went and also Stam but you move on. Players come and go, but the club always remains, that's the most important thing. I told my sister (who was with me when I went to OT earlier this year for the match) and she said 'aw, next time I go that means I won't get to see Ronaldo'.
feck sake sister
(Though I can't really say anything, she isn't a United nut like I am. Sure she likes football but not fanatical like me).
Yes - though there was insufficient evidence to support the claim until well after the CL final - not surprising really since he clearly stated he hadn't decided until after the final.
Eventually he confirmed he wanted to go but was persuaded to stay by SAF.
How is this relevant to the notion that certain people did have a dislike of Ronaldo btw?
Sometimes you have to realise that some fans like to stick up for players instead of turning on them straight away, even if the truth is blatent. Its all part of being a supporter, theres always some sort of bias in there.
Just have to be man enough later, when the dust settles, to admit you were wrong.
Thats very Uber of you Pogue. Sacrificing the overall success of the club, possibly allowing the scousers capitalise and win the league (as they are our closest rivals at the moment) all so you can get rid of some fan boys from our fanbase. Its like some 'for the greater good' arguement.
But there is no greater good than winning the league next year.
As a non-united fan i do, i could always appreciate what Ronaldo did on the pitch but his antics, personality etc always made me a bit sick and the way his fans would back him no matter what was cringeworthy in the extreme.
It'll be interesting to see if the Ronaldo super fanboys actually stick around or not. From a purely footballing perspective i'm interested to see how he'll do in spain though, with fanboys spouting stuff like 50 goals easy in spain.
I actually had a bet with a poster on here before the start of this season about Ronaldo, he owes me a fiver
@ the 'fan boys' getting all defensive.I fully endorse this thread and would like to add "don't let the door hit you on the way out".
What does Uber mean in this context?
And how am I sacrificing anything? There's a difference between not giving a feck if we don't win anything and actively hoping it will happen.
I've endure plenty of trophyless seasons before. I can cope with another one, especially if Ronaldo's departure gives our kids a chance to shine. Supporting a football club isn't just about winning trophies. I've really enjoyed some seasons when we won feck all.
Sultan's posts are almost always balanced, and lack acrimony....that's why i'm quite disappointed - perhaps surprised would be the better term - about this particular effort, as i imagine most are.
Ronaldo's polarised fans at United as much as he has football fans all over the world. i'm disappointed he's decided to leave. i've enjoyed watching him play for us as well. does this make me a fanboy? - i don't know. if not, can i expect sympathy from fellow caffites when i confess my disappointment? - i doubt it, since i'll be lumped into the category of 'Wengerised' caftard.
I'd say that part will get smaller and smaller as the season gets closer.
You will struggle to come up with me saying any such thing - I have confirmed many times that he did eventually decide to move but was persuaded to stay. You really should withdraw that accusation of yours.
Where I have differed from others is:
1 - in noting that he felt he'd been 'naive' but never said he'd been 'wrong'.
2 - in pointing out that early in the 'summer' there was little evidence confirming a move and much confirming a desire to stay.
3 - in believing that CR's many clear statements as to when he decided to move last summer were more worthy of note than one vague reference to an unspecified 'decision' on Balague's unsupported testimony.
True that.
But I will continue to be amused by anyone who tries to portray Ronaldo as some sort of victim in all this. Delusion is always kind of funny.
Uber is just another way of saying Top Red
I didnt say it was about us winning trophies next season. Its about stopping the scousers from winning them instead.
I didnt say you were sacrificing anything, just saying that if we were to hope that all fan boys disapear, it would probably mean the scousers would win the league considering this years performances.
I for one would love to see your kids be given a chance, I think this batch of youngsters is absolutely great. Best I've seen for a while.
My main hope for the season is to see our style of football to return, fast attacking, free flowing football with plenty of goals. None of this defensive shite.
All those who are having a go at Sultan need to wind their necks in. Is he not allowed to feel agrieved, annoyed, betrayed, frustrated, etc. too? Is he not allowed to vent said emotions on here like everyone else does?
Of course he is. If he's got an issue with this whole Ronaldo thing then give him the right to voice his opinion on it like every other gimptard does around here.
Of course he is. If he's got an issue with this whole Ronaldo thing then give him the right to voice his opinion on it like every other gimptard does around here.
Not true at all.
He had a good pass for the penalty, went on a couple of decent dribbles with no end product, missed a golden chance.
Knowing you personally I can confidently say you are not a fanboy. The main reason being you are no longer a boy.
My definition of fanboy is a person who focuses more time, devotion towards a specific person, and generally become so obsessive of his devotion that everything else holds very little significance. Some fans take their enthusiasm for an individual so far to the point of wishing the individual personal success over that of the team.
This thread is dedicated to these fanboys, and not those fans who have favourite players, and enjoy players displaying their skills to the beneifit of the club. I greatly appreciated the benefits of having Ronaldo over the last six years. See my second or third post in this thread.
Bloody fanboys, Sultan is 100% correct in making this thread.
I bet they're ALL members of the official Ronaldo forum (if there was one!)
I bet they're ALL members of the official Ronaldo forum (if there was one!)
FAO Pogue
Actually - I've had occasion to correct you about this accusation before - and you really should have remembered the result - so I publish the following PM exchange.
Re: Foul calumny
Yeah, ok, I'm guilty of skimming that thread and not reading your posts properly. So yes, an apology is in order. Sorry
Great title to the PM, by the way. Thought you wanted to to discuss George Best's wastrel of a son!
Pogue
Actually - I've had occasion to correct you about this accusation before - and you really should have remembered the result - so I publish the following PM exchange.
Re: Foul calumny
Feedingseagulls said:
Yeah, ok, I'm guilty of skimming that thread and not reading your posts properly. So yes, an apology is in order. Sorry
Great title to the PM, by the way. Thought you wanted to to discuss George Best's wastrel of a son!
Pogue
It will certainly be good to have threads about Rooney without mentioning Ronaldo in comparison all the time and vice-versa in the football forum of course. Ronaldo has been a great player for us and I for one will miss watching him in the utd shirt but the club moves on, as always bigger than any one player.
My bet's on Welbeck.
He will be missed a bit at the start but United will march on, wonder what would happen if we made an 80million bid for Messi?. Doubt he would wanna leave though.
I'll rather have so-called fanboys supporting our club than wankers who boo players during games.
Talking about wanting United not to win anything just to get rid of these fans is ridiculous - how do they hurt you personally? Because you have to listen to them in the pub and read their posts on a message board? Well sorry, but that's hardly enough reason to want your club to do badly.
Talking about wanting United not to win anything just to get rid of these fans is ridiculous - how do they hurt you personally? Because you have to listen to them in the pub and read their posts on a message board? Well sorry, but that's hardly enough reason to want your club to do badly.
As disappointed as I am that he is leaving, that disappointment is eased by the thought that the foundations the club is founded on will in fact be strengthened by him going. I was becoming more than a little tired of trying to deny this to myself.
Hard work
Skill
Selflessness
Loyalty.
I can probably give Ronaldo 1.5 of these.
He was a great player but like all great players ego is a problem and I don't think in his case it was a manageable one.
At times like this I think about what the best outcome for UTD would be. It is clear that the best thing that could happen now, is that he fails miserably at Madrid. This would prevent other players believing this Madrid is the next step shit that Beckham started. I don't think it will happen but I hope he wins feck all at Madrid and lives to regret leaving as I suspect Beckham does.
It's nothing personal just what is, undeniably in United’s best interests.
Hard work
Skill
Selflessness
Loyalty.
I can probably give Ronaldo 1.5 of these.
He was a great player but like all great players ego is a problem and I don't think in his case it was a manageable one.
At times like this I think about what the best outcome for UTD would be. It is clear that the best thing that could happen now, is that he fails miserably at Madrid. This would prevent other players believing this Madrid is the next step shit that Beckham started. I don't think it will happen but I hope he wins feck all at Madrid and lives to regret leaving as I suspect Beckham does.
It's nothing personal just what is, undeniably in United’s best interests.
Oops. That's double calumny.
Is that the same as double jeopardy in that I can be let off without charge?
Apologies nonetheless, I put words in your mouth and I shouldn't have. Sorry about that.
Did anyone say they wanted United to do badly, just to get rid of a certain type of fan?
Here's my original comment;
"Part of me" can see a potential upside in United winning nothing. That's not the same thing as actively hoping United don't win anything.
I agree with RVN but I'm not sure how you come to the Beckham conclusion.
I sometimes struggle to get my head around how Beckham never acheived legend status at United.
I know one thing Ronnie will never be a legend in my eye's!
Where is an English speaking Madrid forum. I'm off.
I couldn't remember the exact post, so I've just skimmed through the thread, and it turns out it was one of your posts which triggered it, Pogue:
Wanting United to do badly just to get rid of fanboys is beyond my understanding of being a fan - even if it's only some part of you.
Sure, such fanboys annoys me when I'm posting on a forum and if I sit next to them at matches, but my annoyance is hardly a valid reason for wanting my club not to win anything - the club is bigger than me and my personal problems with other fans.
We have millions of fans around the world, I doubt I'd want to spend any times with the majority of them, but I wouldn't wish for the club to suddenly stop winning things just to get rid of them.
Sure, it's not all about success and trophies, but it's a nice bonus - a bonus I'd rather have than be without fanboys, who are really just insignificant fans, who doesn't actually harm the club in any way, even if we don't like their muppetry in pubs and on forums.
It's instructive though - because it shows how a casual reading (and thus misinterpretation of what was written/said) can lead to something erroneous being propagated as a 'facht', and accepted as such.
This is something that far too many people do too often. (I was, and remain, surprised to find you a culprit though.)
Now this is the type of thread i'd never think Sultan would create.
It's not about wanting the club to do bad though. I was just saying that if the club does go through a lean period (which is something no fan would actively wish to happen) there might be certain benefits. It's these benefits which makes (a fairly small) part of me not all that bothered about the thought of a potless season or two.
So one good pass is all it takes to be "unplayable"?
The fact they lost to that giant footballing nation of Ecuador would indicate he wasn't particularly "clever".
As a non-united fan i do, i could always appreciate what Ronaldo did on the pitch but his antics, personality etc always made me a bit sick and the way his fans would back him no matter what was cringeworthy in the extreme.
It'll be interesting to see if the Ronaldo super fanboys actually stick around or not. From a purely footballing perspective i'm interested to see how he'll do in spain though, with fanboys spouting stuff like 50 goals easy in spain.
I actually had a bet with a poster on here before the start of this season about Ronaldo, he owes me a fiver
Frankly, I don't understand why a footballer's personality matters at all. They're supposed to play football, not be nice guys...
And Messi is hardly squeaky clean, is he?
good luck ronaldo in Real Madshit
now lets focus on bringing the next big talent from some back-water team in europe
now lets focus on bringing the next big talent from some back-water team in europe
Cal just can't stop being a fecking dickhead. every fecking post he made is retarded.
Just how fecking old is this prick?
Just how fecking old is this prick?
cnut
Bro you are spot on. Le cnut finally came through on his character. Good riddence. and that is also to his fanboys too.
Bro you are spot on. Le cnut finally came through on his character. Good riddence. and that is also to his fanboys too.
It is EXACTLY the kind of thread that someone like Sultan would create ... because he is a true United fan. some will get that, the others will feck off to madshitecaf.net with there idol cnut.
What a knob
But why does defending Ronaldo make someone a fanboy?
I defended Ruud after he left, does that make me a Ruud fanboy?