It's still crap.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
Better than the first two seasons, though. The music and environments are great too.
You know having watched 3 seasons of this now. I legit only remember like 3 character names. It is probably my fault but watching 2 episodes today. Perrin I remember for sure that one is locked in.
Rings of Power has nice music and environments too, the writing and world building is still dogshit.
Edit: 3 & 5 to a lesser extent are pseudo book spoilers.
Some thoughts after the first episode:
1. The pacing is still a train wreck
2. The actors/actresses and writers for the forsaken are all badass and the best part of this show
3. Elayne and Aviendha... I mean wtf. I guess they are trying get in front of the uncomfortable Rand has 3 ladies thing, but yeah....
4. Did I mention the pacing?
5. They set up Perin's fear of leadership nicely.
6. I literally lol'd 5 minutes into the show (after cold open) when I realized the cold open was not a flash forward. There was literally a sister on sister war in the tower and on the streets and the next day everyone was like "back to normal!"
7. P.A.C.I.N.G
Some thoughts after the first episode:
1. The pacing is still a train wreck
2. The actors/actresses and writers for the forsaken are all badass and the best part of this show
3. Elayne and Aviendha... I mean wtf. I guess they are trying get in front of the uncomfortable Rand has 3 ladies thing, but yeah....
4. Did I mention the pacing?
5. They set up Perin's fear of leadership nicely.
6. I literally lol'd 5 minutes into the show (after cold open) when I realized the cold open was not a flash forward. There was literally a sister on sister war in the tower and on the streets and the next day everyone was like "back to normal!"
7. P.A.C.I.N.G
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I haven't read the books but that felt very weird and wrong somehow.
I didn’t say otherwise.
Because it is.
This is in the books though.
They are mentioned to be “pillow friends” more than once. It’s the same term used for Morraine and Siuan during their early days in the tower.
Watched a teaser and I think I'll pass.
Don't make me tap the thread title.
Crap, posted in wrong thread. Moving discussion to correct one. Mods, feel free to delete.
I don’t think RJ ever intended for them to be viewed as anything other than the closest of friends. Hell, they went through the Aiel first sisters ceremony together.
this show certainly has no right being this bland given the sheer number of characters and the length of the episodes. just what the feck were the writers doing all this time? I'm not sure if there's a similar case of show that I watched for two whole seasons without remembering a single name. that literally never happens to me, it's impossible.
the good part though is that it's perfect to watch while browsing caf. I have something as background noise and I don't care that much if I miss something important. plus, it kinda brings back friday evenings during last autumn when I would finish the day with the latest Rings of Power episode.
so I'll keep watching even though I'm not getting much from it.
the good part though is that it's perfect to watch while browsing caf. I have something as background noise and I don't care that much if I miss something important. plus, it kinda brings back friday evenings during last autumn when I would finish the day with the latest Rings of Power episode.
so I'll keep watching even though I'm not getting much from it.
I'm afraid I have to agree. I haven't read the books but I can only imagine they cram even more detail in the pages than they try to do on the show. But a good show writer will know how much meat to give something, and what not. I know it's a popular book series but still nothing like a Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings or the Witcher (factoring in the huge group of gaming fans in that one too) so I feel like they could have gotten away with a lot more liberties than perhaps in other book universes. It's just very hard to digest bc it seems to try a little too hard if that makes sense.
On a slight aside: I'm also bothered by the costume choices. It doesn't help the feeling of it being cluttered. What I mean by that is that even among the covens/houses whatever the schools of magic at the white Tower are called we have women dressed in medieval gowns and others in suits that could be worn to a modern day business meeting. Makes it feel even more like a CW show.
I'll still continue to watch bc I love any semi decent fantasy show and there isn't anything else in that corner right now but so far I'm not that impressed with S3. At least the dude playing Rand seemed to have taken some more acting classes so that's a plus.
I've enjoyed the new season so far. I'll never not find the word trollocks funny though.
The first episode was quite good, really enjoyed it.
Episode 4 of this season was fantastic. Genuinely brilliant.
That was much, much, much better than I thought they'd be able to make that sequence. Fantastic, really.
This is getting better as it goes.
The first season was trash. Last years got better, finishing with and excellent finale and then the first 4 episodes of season 3 have been fantastic.
If they keep going like this it’ll be truly epic by the time they’ve finished telling the story.
The first season was trash. Last years got better, finishing with and excellent finale and then the first 4 episodes of season 3 have been fantastic.
If they keep going like this it’ll be truly epic by the time they’ve finished telling the story.
That was so good.
I wish the show focused less on stories related to Perrin and Mat. I find I don't really care about them as characters. Maybe a little bit in season 1.
I would rather see more of Rand and the Forsaken
I would rather see more of Rand and the Forsaken
Especially Matt is just irritating. Too bad they had to replace the actor. This dude literally has that air about him that he would be the most annoying guy in a room. But maybe thats the point - haven't read the books.
Agreed. Very well done. Finally, an episode that helps connects the dots for non-book readers.
I gave up in the end. it's S3 and I still don't understand what half the characters is supposed to be doing or aiming for. I just don't care about them. stuff just happen while I'm browsing caf so it makes no sense to continue.
I won't bash it though. it served its purpose for a while at least.
I won't bash it though. it served its purpose for a while at least.
Of course it won't make sense if you're not paying attention.
Episode 4 was good, easily the best they have done and incredibly pretty close to the book.
What a shocking coincidence.
What a shocking coincidence.
Agreed with some comments on here - the pacing for the episodes is so forced, they're not dealing well with the typical too-much-cool-stuff-in-book-to-fit-in-50m-episodes problem. However, Ep4 succeeded for that very reason - it was so beautifully done. I have my concerns, but I've made peace that they're doing the best they can in the limited time they have both on and off screen. This is not GoT S1-S4, don't have such high expectations. I'm excited for the rest of the season.
It's far better than the previous seasons imo. The first episode set the tone.
Maybe don't browse the caf while you're watching?
Except for Lan, all the other Warder's are such boring characters. Like Human robots with only 1-2 emotion.
I don't even think about reaching for the phone when I'm stimulated by the dialogues or acting, but I simply don't get that here. and then I start losing interest.
but even then, I can finish the show if it's short and simple enough to follow. no point in doing it with something like this obviously. very long episodes plus it looks like it's here to stay.
Shit is getting better and better… loving it.
likely opinion for Moiraine to have.
Anyway, contrary to most people I really have been enjoying this from day 1. Obviously its not the sopranos, but not everything has to be prestige for it to be enjoyable to watch and even season 1 was just a funny if a bit cringy fantasy adventure story and sometimes thats all you really need. And also, learning about all the issues they were dealing with in season 1 I'm surprised they even made it past season 1 or that season 1 even aired.
I think the show's biggest issue is clearly that amazon hasn't really given them enough episodes to work with for a book series this huge which leads to some scenes and storylines being rushed cause they need to go through a specific arc in a season. I still think they do the best they can within those constraints, I just wish they didnt need to. Even an extra episode or two, or an extra 10 mins per episode would've done the show a lot of good.
Of course you'd say that, Moraine. You've found some new toys to play with. :P
I agree, though. The show is getting better and better. This was a great episode.
Not as spectacular as ep4, but just as good in some ways. The acting has really taken a step up this season.
The writing, casting and acting of Modhedien is absolutely superb. She makes my skin scrawl.
Just a big, amazing, terrifying weirdo. Love it.
Evil Bjork is fantastic. That compulsion scene was so good; Nynaeve fighting back!