Musk | Fascist | Leader of the Free World

There's an argument for taxing the super rich just to stop them from getting this much power. He's an emotionally immature, drug-using moron who's enough power to be a factor in wars.
 
I would fecking love to fight him. It would be so therapeutic. I bet 90% of his family would be on my side.
 
I would fecking love to fight him. It would be so therapeutic. I bet 90% of his family would be on my side.
His parents are equally as monstrous but his multiple former partners and kids would, certainly.
 


This is a pretty good investigation into one of Musk's more feeble claims, which includes a conclusion that I suspect can be extrapolated out to cover almost every single claim Musk has ever made.

And as someone who is on record bragging about minor gaming accomplishments on the internet, I feel in a good position to tell you how pathetic it actually is when the achievement is true and a matter of record. It's a whole different layer of loser shit when you're lying about it.

As for Musk challenging Putin to combat well I predict that even an old and cancerous Putin would fold Musk quickly. I've done judo with people who have done judo with the Putin team and while he isn't some martial artist specialist and his grades are politically inflated, he does practice real judo and it isn't some completely made up 12 year old's lie, like all Elon Musk's pathetic fantasy areas of study appear to be.

Musk is really fat and uncoordinated and a fecking loser which would also count against him in any combat situation. And he's ugly as sin but that might not matter as much, but what an ugly abortable cnut he is.
 
There's an argument for taxing the super rich just to stop them from getting this much power. He's an emotionally immature, drug-using moron who's enough power to be a factor in wars.

It's always been a fundamental part of the argument for taxing the rich. It is the same all the way through society. It's just sad that we have to see the painful and dangerous logical conclusion of it before the penny drops.
 
Tesla down another 9% today, so far. All the value gained since the presidential election now wiped out. Much more to come, hopefully.
 
Tesla down another 9% today, so far. All the value gained since the presidential election now wiped out. Much more to come, hopefully.

The market is finally figuring out that Tesla's value has always been inflated because of Musk's public statements. He tried his old trick of making a comment about future car updates in the hope it would stop the stock's freefall and for the first time it didn't work and will probably fall into the 100s.
 
is there any risk of tesla going under? I'd enjoy that!

after the nazi salute I suppose anything is possible?
 
The market is finally figuring out that Tesla's value has always been inflated because of Musk's public statements. He tried his old trick of making a comment about future car updates in the hope it would stop the stock's freefall and for the first time it didn't work fall into the 100s.
Maybe, but the stock is still up 35% compared to a year ago, so it's still super inflated. The prospects for Tesla now is a lot worse than at that time, in my view. The trend will have to continue for a while, before I'll believe that the market has figured it out.
 
is there any risk of tesla going under? I'd enjoy that!

after the nazi salute I suppose anything is possible?

Not likely given that its still viewed as a leader, if not THE leader in the EV space. It also continues to offer the best charging infrastructure of any EV maker.

That said, there are three converging problems that will probably see Tesla drop quite a bit.

1. Tesla is losing market cap as other EV makers begin to roll out more cars, especially traditional ICE car makers.

2. The stock market as a whole is probably headed for a correction alongside an economic recession in the coming year, which means it will drag Tesla down with it.

3. Musk's own idiocy and public comments/behavior will also continue to drag the stock price down. We've already seen Tesla sales fall off a cliff in Europe and I suspect there will be a similar, perhaps slightly less severe reaction in the US over the next six months.

Who knows, if the stock crashes far enough, maybe Tim Cook will take another look at acquiring Tesla since Apple recently discontinued its own EV project.
 
Not likely given that its still viewed as a leader, if not THE leader in the EV space. It also continues to offer the best charging infrastructure of any EV maker.

That said, there are three converging problems that will probably see Tesla drop quite a bit.

1. Tesla is losing market cap as other EV makers begin to roll out more cars, especially traditional ICE car makers.

2. The stock market as a whole is probably headed for a correction alongside an economic recession in the coming year, which means it will drag Tesla down with it.

3. Musk's own idiocy and public comments/behavior will also continue to drag the stock price down. We've already seen Tesla sales fall off a cliff in Europe and I suspect there will be a similar, perhaps slightly less severe reaction in the US over the next six months.

Who knows, if the stock crashes far enough, maybe Tim Cook will take another look at acquiring Tesla since Apple recently discontinued its own EV project.

4. The Tesla charging infrastructure is losing its appeal on an almost weekly basis. With more and more alternatives it’s no longer a USP for a Tesla car. That’s why Tesla has started opening up its network for non-Tesla cars to use. Which has already happened in most of Europe.
 
4. The Tesla charging infrastructure is losing its appeal on an almost weekly basis. With more and more alternatives it’s no longer a USP for a Tesla car. That’s why Tesla has started opening up its network for non-Tesla cars to use. Which has already happened in most of Europe.

I’m don’t disagree with that. My point was simply that it’s the only major EV maker with its own proprietary global charging network, which is a big deal for EV buyers with range anxiety on their minds.
 
I’m don’t disagree with that. My point was simply that it’s the only major EV maker with its own proprietary global charging network, which is a big deal for EV buyers with range anxiety on their minds.

And my point is that this used to be a big deal but it isn’t any more. Or at least whatever upside it provided to Tesla owners is dwindling very quickly and will soon go away.
 
I’m don’t disagree with that. My point was simply that it’s the only major EV maker with its own proprietary global charging network, which is a big deal for EV buyers with range anxiety on their minds.

I think the fact that you can get 300+ mile range in small cars now is why the supercharger network is becoming less relevant.

But in the UK at least, it is still miles ahead of the rest of the public charging network. Even so, I still think its the £399 leases that make them so popular.
 
I think the fact that you can get 300+ mile range in small cars now is why the supercharger network is becoming less relevant.

But in the UK at least, it is still miles ahead of the rest of the public charging network. Even so, I still think its the £399 leases that make them so popular.

Add to this the fact that non-Tesla charging infrastructure is growing pretty fast as well. Musk is apparently compensating by selling Model-S cars with free lifetime superchargering.
 
Musk saying the Twitter/X hack originated from the Ukraine.

That’ll be Starlink gone no doubt
If it doesnt originate from there he d probably still blame them. Too convenient.

Anonymous recently announced open season against the likes of Elon though so I'm curious if they are at all somehow connected to this.

Otherwise...I blame the Dutch
 
Am I being daft here, or are stocks going down good for the likes of Musk? Create a fake problem, let stocks dip, buy the stocks at a low, announce problem is solved. Rinse and repeat for four years and he has 10 times the billions of dollars he started off with, no?

I think Trump has fecked that cycle being replaced too often now but they will definitely profit from it in the long run. Trump's erratic and inconsistent behaviour, especially his tarrifs nonsense, has caused massive uncertainty in the market and him mentioning 'recession' has only made things worse.
 
I think Trump has fecked that cycle being replaced too often now but they will definitely profit from it in the long run. Trump's erratic and inconsistent behaviour, especially his tarrifs nonsense, has caused massive uncertainty in the market and him mentioning 'recession' has only made things worse.
That's what makes me think it's all being done on purpose. Because there's no other motivation for it.
 
Am I being daft here, or are stocks going down good for the likes of Musk? Create a fake problem, let stocks dip, buy the stocks at a low, announce problem is solved. Rinse and repeat for four years and he has 10 times the billions of dollars he started off with, no?
That situation can certainly be good. This one isn't a fake problem though. Tesla is done for as a car manufacturer, there's no coming back from that. I'm sure he can create some fake optimism to support and pump it on occasion though. Convince the morons Tesla is going to solve fusion power or something in 20 years time.
 
Am I being daft here, or are stocks going down good for the likes of Musk? Create a fake problem, let stocks dip, buy the stocks at a low, announce problem is solved. Rinse and repeat for four years and he has 10 times the billions of dollars he started off with, no?
there's no doubt many people in Trump's circle are printing obscene amounts of money on market manipulation via POTUS tweets/statements these days, from crypto to stocks, many are not even hiding it. But Musk himself is one of the very few idiots who are currently losing money big time (not that it matters for him). You can make 5 or 50 million bucks on a market manipulation, but to offset loses of value going in hundreds of billions is more difficult. Damage to Tesla brand is enormous, the figures for sales abroad are crazy bad for them for many reasons, especially in Europe and China
 
That situation can certainly be good. This one isn't a fake problem though. Tesla is done for as a car manufacturer, there's no coming back from that. I'm sure he can create some fake optimism to support and pump it on occasion though. Convince the morons Tesla is going to solve fusion power or something in 20 years time.
I mean more like Tesla doesn't matter as much to him now. Before the election, sure. Now, not so much, he's like a pig at the trough of disaster capitalism. He'll come out of it without a scratch, no matter what happens to Tesla.
 
Am I being daft here, or are stocks going down good for the likes of Musk? Create a fake problem, let stocks dip, buy the stocks at a low, announce problem is solved. Rinse and repeat for four years and he has 10 times the billions of dollars he started off with, no?

I know it’s probably a big ask to expect US authorities to do their job but you’d struggle to describe a more blatant example of insider trading. Which is illegal.