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I think there's a maturity aspect to it. It's more of a credit to Kobbie's mentality and confidence I think. Greenwood was always deemed as being quite immature and not that good of a speaker, so he was probably guided away from that spotlight as it may have done him some harm.
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His focus at his age should just be football with as little responsibility as possible on media issues. You could also argue he needed a full break preseason having started far more games than he perhaps would have done if we had an even decent number of central midfield option.
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Why are Transfermarkt's values so low? Completely unrealistic.
Because they have them based on nothing really.
That’s the thing though, they’ve always been open about it and said they shouldn’t be used as realistic valuations. Yet people do it all the time, this forum included.
Imagine if we all on the Caf evaluate players transfer values. What a load of nonsense those valuations are from that website.
Do they multiply their value by 1.5 if they play for barcelona? Weird gap with the top 2.
I don't think you could buy a single one of these players for the price listed.
Yea these kind of things are always made to generate discussions, nothing more than that really. As it's near impossible to reach a general consensus. Similar to that list from a few days ago ranking top 10 players in each position. All designed to generate clicks/engagement as there will be many who will want to voice their displeasure over a player being in the list/not being in the list.
I love TM’s website, such a good & reliable source for match data, injuries, transfers etc. But the transfer value is the one thing I would ignore.
Ah, I see. All a bit pointless then really.
I’d say there are some indications that the rankings are somewhat valid, but the values themselves are based on nothing. And to be fair, it’s very difficult to estimate the transfer values of players. Remaining contract length, age, injuries, stats, nationality, potential release clause etc. So many things that can affect them.
I'd say theres other better websites out there for those data only that TM's seems the most popular. Also, based on how they presented Olise's injury history on their website(I was discussing this with another poster in Olise's thread) seems like they not that reliable for it.
Yeah of course, TM’s stats are just simple G/A.
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Scholes is right, or at least it's very likely that he's right. But it would require Southgate to take a risk to see if Scholes is right and if there's one thing we know about Southgate, like all managers of the England NT before him going back to the 1970s, is that he is averse to taking any risks. Better to play the big names and accept losing and at least argue that the big names got their chance than to push all the way and risk defeat playing lesser known names.
Vision he has. The only thing he lacks is his long passing range of a Kroos or Rodri, but I doubt the aforementioned two were spraying passes around and controlling games at the age of 19.
Not really when Arnold and Gallagher are the alternatives. He's clearly the better option right now. Playing vs Man City in an FA Cup final and other performances against Liverpool proves he's ready to perform at a high level
His face is so pink.
It's hilarious to me that playing TAA at CM was seen as less of a risk than Mainoo.
Exactly, you actually can partner him and Rice with the latter as the water carrier, chasing everything in the middle and putting out fires before they start, and then giving the ball to Mainoo to advance play. This is how France paired Pogba and Kante in 2018 World Cup and dominated all midfields they came across, but Southgate is beyond clueless to even see that.
It's not a problem if you set the team up properly and your rest defence are able to win defensive duels
Southgate can actually see this. If we can see it he can also see it, the problem is he just doesn't think it's the correct approach. Managers are driven by a set of values and principles and Southgate's just happen to be heavily inspired by 2006 Middlesbrough.
I agree. The hype is getting OTT. The more a player is kept out, the better he becomes. What England lack in the midfield is an excellent passer of the football. Someone who can unlock the attack with his vision and passing. Southgate tried TAA in the position but it didn't work out. England doesn't have anyone else of that ilk. The only other English player who I can think of with some of those qualities is James Ward-Prowse, who I don't think is in the squad.
He's a better player in midfield for sure but there's more to it than that. He needs to become that player that commands respect and demands the ball, not defer to players like or Bellingham or Rice, who quite frankly that isn't their game. He needs to be getting some of the highest touches in team otherwise he's no better than Gallagher, who for all his flaws, is more combative and energetic than Kobbie.
He's just remembered he posted that toe sucking video.
He has the vision in spades. Only thing missing is the passing range.
Nahh, I think what England needs right now is someone who can keep the ball and advances it either through dribbles or passes, and Mainoo excel in both. Right now with presses and cutting off England passing lanes, England players are clueless. Mainoo can break the press and find other angles to pass with his close control and dribbling ability in tight spaces. He's literally the perfect partner for Rice
Spot on. He is a very special talent and quite frankly, I can't believe our academy uenearthed a player as technical as him. We typically value physical attributes (Speed, Strength, Height) over technical.
Yep, he has gone into full defence mode in a game where he can experiment.
