The holy trinity 68
The disparager
If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?100% agree...we have now accepted mediocrity as the norm
If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?100% agree...we have now accepted mediocrity as the norm
What a load of garbage that directly contradicts all of the available evidence. More likey we carried out the review, interviewed potential candidates and decided Ten Hag was a better option than those available. Nonsense to just randomly assume we have been “turned down”.Agree with this
we've only kept him as none of the available replacements wanted the job.
Not a chance!If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?
Thats the problem, the people who are unable to accept this decision just want to be right and be able to say I told you so.Not a chance!
Yes, rimmy. Very relatable example indeed.can’t believe he’s still here. it’s like when you drink too much and then wake up because you’ve shit yourself, then go back to sleep hoping that when you wake up again, you won’t have shit yourself.
He truly was the goat that year
Most of his analogies involve fecesYes, rimmy. Very relatable example indeed.
In hindsight you are right. I do think signing an older experienced player can be good if it is the right one. Kovacic to Cheaty for example. Maybe not for 70 million though.Casemiro was still the wrong signing. At best we were going to get 3-4 good seasons out of him and were not going to be competitive near the top anyway.
We’ve all been there…rightcan’t believe he’s still here. it’s like when you drink too much and then wake up because you’ve shit yourself, then go back to sleep hoping that when you wake up again, you won’t have shit yourself.
How about Sancho and Van De Beek? Why are you cherry picking?A bit skint, jeez we are truly paying a heavy price for spending around £150m on Casemiro and Antony
Article in the Athletic today says we even got to discussing wages with Tuchel in Monaco last week. So I'm not contradicting evidence at all.What a load of garbage that directly contradicts all of the available evidence. More likey we carried out the review, interviewed potential candidates and decided Ten Hag was a better option than those available. Nonsense to just randomly assume we have been “turned down”.
1) the athletic regularly chat shite, it’s not some bastion of truth.Article in the Athletic today says we even got to discussing wages with Tuchel in Monaco last week. So I'm not contradicting evidence at all.
A top tier shitposter, I love himMost of his analogies involve feces
Number 1 is true, most outlets have basically confirmed it.1) the athletic regularly chat shite, it’s not some bastion of truth.
2) even if that is true, why couldn’t Utd have disagreed on a major point that made them change their decision? Why is It more likely that the jobless Tuchel turns down the biggest job of his career?
Either way good result for Utd, never wanted the slender man Cnut in the dugout.Number 1 is true, most outlets have basically confirmed it.
Number 2, like I said Tuchel probably wanted more money than we were offering him or more of something else, transfers. style of play or whatever, so he turned down our offer.
Well, we are stuck with ETH in the dugout now. Another year of chaotic football, I can just see all the excuses for him after our first embarrassing loses.Either way good result for Utd, never wanted the slender man Cnut in the dugout.
After he spends another 150-200 million top 3 finish SHOULD be the bare minimum and not some amazing achievementIf we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?
Depends on the football played. If it's like his first season, then no. Ultimately the goal is to compete for the PL and CL, and playing good football is a prerequisite. If he gets 5th, but gets United playing good football I'll admit I was wrong. I'm not tied to results. I know others are, but I'm not. It's the same reason why I wanted Ten Hag gone. Results can come after the good football is here.If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?
Floor shitter, is that you?can’t believe he’s still here. it’s like when you drink too much and then wake up because you’ve shit yourself, then go back to sleep hoping that when you wake up again, you won’t have shit yourself.
Good postFor me it now boils down to this:
The managerial situation has been decided, like it or not;
Close this thread and support the club and team you claim to support;
Let's look for positives rather than whataboutery.
What sort of Takeaway?Would those of you who want Ten Hag to stay be happy to keep him if you walked in on him satisfying your wife? She climaxes for the first time ever (you thought it was a myth) and orders a takeaway that night.
The eighth best Indian in the area but you get a free cup of coke.What sort of Takeaway?
Top 3 is a bit vague, finishing 1st is vastly different to coming 3rd. Granted coming 2nd with a strong challenge might prove some people 'wrong'.If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?
As long as he's paying then I'd probably be ok with it.The eighth best Indian in the area but you get a free cup of coke.
The fans have now accepted it too. 8th place and out of the CL bottom of a relatively easy group. But we managed to pull it together for 1 game vs City after they had a night out so it's all ok. People forget that Coventry was an inch away from knocking us out of the FA Cup. What I will say though is that there are no exercises next season. I don't want to hear any cap for us getting outplayed by almost every team in the league twice.100% agree...we have now accepted mediocrity as the norm
A cup of Coke is nasty work. Put it in a bottle.The eighth best Indian in the area but you get a free cup of coke.
Im told on this thread that clubs give underperforming managers who have just clung on to their jobs new contracts all the time. Apparently you have to do it because otherwise the poor lambs have no chance of success because the press might ask awkward questions.Have a horrible season beating most records in our PL history and get a 2 year contract extension. Only at Man United
I don't think it was "very considered" until the FA Cup final. It seriously seems like a streak of 3 good but also very lucky games turned the corner for Ten Hag, but I am convinced he was destined to leave before the final game, and that would be the right decision to make as it was after a full season of miserable results, breaking all sorts of negative records and playing as terrible football as this club has seen.‘emotional?’ no they took a while to make the decision was obviously very considered
‘What the fans wanted?’ if they read this forum that wouldn’t be the case
It’s just an absolutely crazy outcome, like I can still understand (though I don’t agree with it) the decision to keep him on but to extend him is just terrible. This idea that he will be on the edge all season is so awful, because firstly he will be on the edge anyways regardless of what happens with his contract. Everyone knows that you were not sure about him and so if the team plays badly again he will be gone. All it does is increase his compensation and sends a terrible message to everyone that we are ok with mediocrityIm told on this thread that clubs give underperforming managers who have just clung on to their jobs new contracts all the time. Apparently you have to do it because otherwise the poor lambs have no chance of success because the press might ask awkward questions.
I don’t actually think anyone has yet given a single example of another club doing it though.
There will always be injuries to blame everything onWell, we are stuck with ETH in the dugout now. Another year of chaotic football, I can just see all the excuses for him after our first embarrassing loses.
So he’s just kept in the darkHe doesn’t pay for players. There’s people who do that that can happily tell him no. That’s beyond our budget. Surely?
If next season is a continuation of the last 18 months of bad football are you going to admit you were wrong? We know goalposts kept moving last season. "Give him until November", "give him until christmas", then until x player returns, then until the end of the season, then give him another season. Ole finished 2nd and 3rd, it's hardly the most amazing achievement that would prove anyone who doubted Ten Hag was wrong at the time.If we finish in the top 3 next season, are you going to admit you were wrong and Ineos made the correct decision?
exactly. I’m baffled by this tedious narrative about “oh how the standards have fallen” despite the clear evidence that Ineos are making big changes and demanding the highest standards going forwards.We’re also the only big club in Europe that have been intricately and purposefully destroyed from within by its owners for over a decade. This has infected every area of the club and it makes those kind of side by side comparisons a little problematic imo
Who knows but it sounds like they always decided that nothing will happen mid season and they wantes to wait until the aeason was completely over and then have a review with all things considered. People complained that no secision was announced immediately after FA Cup final but actually they weee doing what theh said and having a full review.I don't think it was "very considered" until the FA Cup final. It seriously seems like a streak of 3 good but also very lucky games turned the corner for Ten Hag, but I am convinced he was destined to leave before the final game, and that would be the right decision to make as it was after a full season of miserable results, breaking all sorts of negative records and playing as terrible football as this club has seen.
I can understand that it's all about trophies, but people seem to think "the review" is just checking if Ten Hag achieved all the KPIs. Is he staying because he delivered a trophy (if that's the case, why did it take so long to announce?), or is he staying because all the alternative moves collapsed? I don't know, but I have my suspicions.
For this reason I am surprised he's staying. Players will see how weak his position is in the club now.