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You made the player power mention, and I'm asking what about any of our current situation hinges on or translates to player power?What?
You made the player power mention, and I'm asking what about any of our current situation hinges on or translates to player power?What?
Nah, there drawing up a brand new contract for him and rightly so, we are on the brink of something big with ETH.This. Every day with "silent treatment" from the club is ETH getting closer to the sack. It's just a matter of arrangements in the backoffice. Like I said, I'm not too bothered about that dragging on a bit.
With LVG, he was sacked right after the FA cup win, because he missed top4, our standards were higher back then, or we already had Mourinho lined up even before LVG was sacked(strange because we lost 4th on gd if I remember right, or we were close to City).Exactly this... I don't get it either. If you already decided to sack him, just do it. If you want to make a review after the season, do it together with the manager to see if you agree on what has to change and then decide if you go the way with or without him. Starting a review after the season has ended, but not including the manager just looks wrong to me.
Stop crying over hypotheticals you've made in your head.So, Southgate plans to quit England if they don't win the Euro's... Oh Dear God, this is happening, isn't it... Please God, please, just not him.
While every day that goes by obviously makes this feel closer, it seems very unlikely. England can't really be officially eliminated until at least the 2nd match day, which is June 20th.So, Southgate plans to quit England if they don't win the Euro's... Oh Dear God, this is happening, isn't it... Please God, please, just not him.
The players are right behind him and want him to stay. A few have said this publicly too.If ETH stays how does he have any credibility with the players?
No it isn’t, it’s been drummed up by the media because Ashworth has worked with him in the past.So, Southgate plans to quit England if they don't win the Euro's... Oh Dear God, this is happening, isn't it... Please God, please, just not him.
Ya the Southgate story needs to die . Absolute no substance to itNo it isn’t, it’s been drummed up by the media because Ashworth has worked with him in the past.
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Probably. Maybe. Maybe not. Could be next week as well for all we know. Maybe not. Who knows.Sounds like we're getting a decision this week.
At this point United fans should not be giving that journalist any time of day. He clearly has no idea what is going on and is probably frustrated himself.Dont worry Erik your not the only one growing frustrated at the clubs terrible handling of this situation.
INEOS handling of this so far has been disgraceful.
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Which one, Joel or Avram?We could try Glasner
Yeah but no, I don't think Burt has a direct link into EtH's brain. What other clubs are making huge inroads transfer wise so far? There's international comps on, it's going to be slow no matter who the manager is, especially when we have to shift a fair few.Dont worry Erik your not the only one growing frustrated at the clubs terrible handling of this situation.
INEOS handling of this so far has been disgraceful.
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The delay in sacking ETH is partly a cosmetic PR exercise. INEOS made it known before the cup final he was getting sacked regardless of the result but when he won it in some style they didn't want to piss off the fans by doing a van Gaal. Hence the delay.There are four scenarios here:
1. ETH is staying. INEOS didn't meet any other manager => Logical path.
2. ETH is staying. INEOS did meet other managers => This is not a path sensible people will take and does not reflect well upon INEOS if true.
3. ETH is leaving. INEOS didn't meet any other manager => INEOS is stupid.
4. ETH is leaving. INEOS did meet other managers => Logical path.
Going by this, I'd guess if they met with other managers, it probably means ETH has been informed already that he's going to be fired. Then why hasn't he been shown the door yet before his holiday?
Which makes me believe 1 is the most logical step and the journos don't have a clue.
Because there's very little of the heart left to operate on, it's done. Time to call it.And most of them were going to leave on a free that summer. My point is you can have surgery but whats the point of opening the heart, carrying out the surgery and then leaving it?
Still have to close it all up and let the heart mend. We have just not done enough in the window to progress.
That's overlooking the very huge and necessary change that the manager will no longer determine the style of play, the style of play will determine the manager. So yes the manager will have a say but ultimately the purchases can proceed without his approval. And if he kicks back too much he gets sacked.It's just people being silly. Ashworth has stated how the setup works and that the manager will obviously have a major say on transfers, he's more or less said that anything else would be a daft idea
Yes, we got rid of alot of players, we just didnt replace them with quality, which is the reason we always have to go back to the heart surgeon every season.Because there's very little of the heart left to operate on, it's done. Time to call it.
Seriously though I get what you're saying and I don't disagree we need new blood. But the poster I was replying to was talking as if there hasn't already been huge turnover in the squad. There has, it's virtually a new squad. Now it might not be good enough but the majority of the current players weren't in the squad 2 years ago.
Only if they get it wrong. If whoever they decide on ends up being successful then it won't matter how long they take to actually make this decision.One of INEOS’s first major decisions since taking over and they’re making a right pigs ear of it.
It is because that was done quickly if in a not very nice way. This is hanging somebody out to dry.As much as I'm eth out I believe this is worse than the lvg treatment!
Erm no I wasn't, when I was talking about open heart surgery - I wasn't just talking about players in or out.Because there's very little of the heart left to operate on, it's done. Time to call it.
Seriously though I get what you're saying and I don't disagree we need new blood. But the poster I was replying to was talking as if there hasn't already been huge turnover in the squad. There has, it's virtually a new squad. Now it might not be good enough but the majority of the current players weren't in the squad 2 years ago.
Nah, i'm not overlooking it, it's just completely irrelevant to the "yes man" debate as they'll pick someone to fit the style of play, they won't hire someone that stands for the complete opposite and then tell him to change.That's overlooking the very huge and necessary change that the manager will no longer determine the style of play, the style of play will determine the manager. So yes the manager will have a say but ultimately the purchases can proceed without his approval. And if he kicks back too much he gets sacked.