Telsim
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I'd ship him for £30M without a second thought. £20M is too low, though.
If we accepted that fans would be complaining in the future when we get lowballed on other players.You stupid bastards! Accept it and run.
To be fair I don't think that Maguire is their dream player. It's more a case of someone buying a ruined house with the ambition of fixing it.It’s like watching Homes in the Sun
“What’s your budget?”
“200k”
After some looking they’ve found the holiday home of their dreams
“So how much do you want to pay for the home of your dreams? It’s on for 190k”
“110k on the basis that we want to replace the kitchen, bathroom, flooring, tiling and oh can they leave the furniture?”
Him staying could escalate things. Fellaini wasn't even remotely controversial, and he got his share of booing.I don't think he'll go, just doesn't seem there's enough desire from the club and especially him to move this summer.
I highly doubt he fits their new manager reallyAre they actually interested though?
An excellent analogyTo be fair I don't think that Maguire is their dream player. It's a more case of someone buying a ruined house with the ambition of fixing it.
He'd be decent for a club that does not press high up the pitch and defends deep so it does not expose his lack of speed. He just didn't fit into United and the way we play. I'm not saying he is class as I've personally never liked him, but for West Ham, I'd say that represents at least 30m of value.how’s 20m for Maguire insulting? 5th choice CB(maybe even 6th behind 40 years old Evans), on ridiculous wages, freshly stripped off captaincy, club wants to get rid and he’ll stink up the place for the rest of the contract otherwise..
just because we were idiots to buy him at ridiculous value doesn’t mean it represents his market value..
No team that defends deep will break their wage structure to incorporate 30 years old CB on 200k per week.He'd be decent for a club that does not press high up the pitch and defends deep so it does not expose his lack of speed. He just didn't fit into United and the way we play. I'm not saying he is class as I've personally never liked him, but for West Ham, I'd say that represents at least 30m of value.
Well no, that was 4 years ago and that was never the offer, that was a very high price quoted by Chelsea to Bayern as a way of saying feck off. Bayern offered peanuts to Chelsea but offered a large contract to CHO, which he then leveraged into a large contract of ~150k per week from Chelsea. The worst part is just as he looked like he was starting to make good on that level of remuneration he tore his Achilles and was never the same player ever again.Tell that to Celski. They rejected 60-70 mil 2 years ago for Odoi. Now he is going for 5 mil.
He also didn't really shine through his time with Ole. We overpaid absurdly for him, he was a 50 million player after a good season for Leicester. By now, his star has fallen quite a bit and he is on big wages. Nobody knows, if its just confidence or something deeper. It hurts, looking at the money burned but the mistake happend those years ago. I'd take 25 and have that chapter done. Good for everybody involved.He'd be decent for a club that does not press high up the pitch and defends deep so it does not expose his lack of speed. He just didn't fit into United and the way we play. I'm not saying he is class as I've personally never liked him, but for West Ham, I'd say that represents at least 30m of value.
Are you saying we are West Ham?20 MILLION? Feck off. If it was us trying to buy one of their players we'd be starting at 70million
Somewhat contradictory statements there.No team that defends deep will break their wage structure to incorporate 30 years old CB on 200k per week.
In order for that to happen(we receive a valuation of 30-40m) Maguire has to accept a serious pay cut (probably around half of his current wage), and I can’t see that happening.
we should take a hit and move on from him, otherwise you have someone on 200k doing cameo performances in which everyone on the pitch and in the stands will be shitting their pants when they see him on.
Especially when we finally brought a ball playing keeper and the plan is most likely to build from the back.
Beg to differ. He was mostly excellent through his first two seasons with us and it was almost unanimously felt on the Caf that his injury before the Europa League final was the reason we did not win. It was during his 3rd year when he struggled with injury and his confidence began to falter that he started to be exposed and it was under Ragnick that he had a poor run of games and the memes really started to flow.He also didn't really shine through his time with Ole. We overpaid absurdly for him, he was a 50 million player after a good season for Leicester. By now, his star has fallen quite a bit and he is on big wages. Nobody knows, if its just confidence or something deeper. It hurts, looking at the money burned but the mistake happend those years ago. I'd take 25 and have that chapter done. Good for everybody involved.
I think we can get 30 at least for him. We always have to negotiate for players when signing them. Let’s make other teams up their offers.You've gotta wonder if his price will ever be higher than it currently is. He's currently 30 but and he probably won't feature much this upcoming season. However he could go on to have a good euros (as he seems decent for England) which could bump up his price.
Hopefully the club are genuinely considering these bids. I think we have to respectfully cut our losses.
Fredos was once 10p there now 25p. So if they put in a 20m offer. We should get 35m for him30 plus add-ons I'd be happy with.
Then again I'd take a freddo bar just so I never have to endure massive nerves when he comes on 10 mins to go.
It’s not £20 million though is it?£20m is a fecking insult, to Maguire and to Utd.
Is he that &much* better than Zouma or Aguerd though as of this upcoming season? I mean he might be a little better, but he is 30, almost certainly on the start of a decline and on massive wages and then you want 30-40m on top.Somewhat contradictory statements there.
Beg to differ. He was mostly excellent through his first two seasons with us and it was almost unanimously felt on the Caf that his injury before the Europa League final was the reason we did not win. It was during his 3rd year when he struggled with injury and his confidence began to falter that he started to be exposed and it was under Rangnick that he had a poor run of games and the memes really started to flow.
He was fine when called upon last year and has looked good so far in pre season, not to mention his continuing good form at International level. He would instantly be West Hams best defender by some margin should they sign him and the same applies to a whole host of clubs including Tottenham and Villa. His asking price at 40M is clearly a starting point for negotiations but he is worth 30M to 35M easily and we would be mugs to sell him for less, particularly when we would then have to turn around and replace him.
Danny feckin Ings is on 125k a week and you're telling me they'll only pay Maguire 100k . They can afford to match his wage if they really want him and they can certainly afford to pay more for him..No team that defends deep will break their wage structure to incorporate 30 years old CB on 200k per week.
In order for that to happen(we receive a valuation of 30-40m) Maguire has to accept a serious pay cut (probably around half of his current wage), and I can’t see that happening.
we should take a hit and move on from him, otherwise you have someone on 200k doing cameo performances in which everyone on the pitch and in the stands will be shitting their pants when they see him on.
Especially when we finally brought a ball playing keeper and the plan is most likely to build from the back.