People don't think it's impressive anymore because of Haaland probably. His record for a young player in a top 5 league is very good (also at international level) having adapted to the league and club in a relatively short period of time. He's been at 3 clubs since the beginning of 2022.
Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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How on earth are we getting the nod from Spurs
He doesn't actually play that way for them though, he uses his size and pace to get down the sides and hold up play for others. He obviously sees himself as the classic 9 but that is just the role he has successfully played and adapted to at Atalanta.
Obviously nothing to the Kane stuff I guess
Can’t see Atalanta letting him go for a reasonable fee now when they know PSG are rivalling us for his signature and they’re potentially about to receive £260m for Mbappe!
The season he scored 21 in the league, 6 were penalties and the following season he scored 12 and 5 were penalties. It really isn't that impressive, and you need to remember Højlund isn't on penalties for Atalanta, and he won't be here because we already have Bruno.
Højlund is on 9 goals in 32 btw (1834 mins) or 12 goals in 37 if you want to include his games in Austria before his move.
Need some sales to add a bit on then so are able to slap that on the table for Kane IF by some miracle the opportunity arises
Ya feck em and their United tax
Holding up play absolutely means also holding it up in the wings, not just centrally. Most forward passes are obviously on the channels as the middle is better defended. Drogba ran on the channels to hold up the ball and bring others into play and he was a quintessential #9. There's no dichotomy there. He's not creating much from the wings though, that's Lookman. The poster I replied to said that he was running on the wings and "setting up". I assumed he meant setting up goals, which he doesn't really do. And almost all of Hojlund's goals come from being central in #9 position.
Well yeah, it's fairly difficult to score from the wings mate
He is not playing like Drogba did at Chelsea. Rasmus is the focal point for their long balls down the lanes and then he actually helps move it in centrally.
Yes his goals are central but that is exactly what is his strength. He helps in build up from the flanks but manages to still get himself in to scoring positions centrally, despite being part of the build up of the attack from the flanks.
Honestly you should probably watch him as that will explain it better.
Well yeah, it's fairly difficult to score from the wings mate
Are you being intentionally obtuse now?
You said you haven’t even watched him but you’re commenting on his playing style.
Watch this. His latest goal for Denmark. He wins the ball on the edge, moves to the flank and passes to Højbjerg opening up space for Højbjerg to cross. Before that cross comes in, Rasmus moves in and loses his defender and is open to tap it in.
You said he's playing in way that disagrees with player's own explanation of how he plays. Yet you're still commenting.
I'm sure you understand the difference between setting or scoring foals when coming from a wing position (you know like Rashford frequently does) and from playing centrally.
The type of player he sees himself as and his tactical role are two different things.
Okay I watched it. And it's quite similar to other goals he scored. That's still pretty quintessential #9 play for me. I don't know why you feel classic #9s didn't drift to the wings to hold up the ball and create space.
Most classic 9 stay central and if they are tall and strong receive the ball and lay it off and then search for the box. Its quite rare for a classic 9 to do as much work on the wings that Rasmus does in Atalanta. Lookman doesnt do that for example.
I don't know how you listened to that and think that's not the way he's asked to play but the way he imagines himself, but ok.
I've actually watched him play a fair bit mate, I know what type of player he is and what he does.
I created his thread in January in the football forum and have been watching him closely since.
That is incredibly incorrect. I think you need to go rewatch some Drogba highlights if you think he stayed centrally.
I’m anxiously waiting for Pedulla to announce it and Romano copying it 16 minutes later.
And in the time you've watched you've come to the conclusion he's a creator from the wings? Because that's literally what started this discussion.
That's good to know mate. Care to summarise your thoughts on the player again? I am too lazy to go back and search for your posts in the past. Cheers!
He runs diagonally to the sides a lot which is skewing his stats. He would not be doing that for us.
Coming from someone who has not watched the player? Wild
Running the channels to receive the ball and pass it around through flicks and quick passes is very different from "creating on the wings".
What I keep explaining over and over in this thread is that making diagonal runs to receive and hold up the ball, is literally typical #9 play. And if he were to play as #9 for us, there's a very good chance he'd be doing it here too.
I haven't really made an in depth post on him on here I don't think to be honest.
@Lyng summarised him pretty well a little bit further up the page
Why everything takes too much time with us is beyond me.
That works for me as well. I don’t follow Pedulla.
Right. I agree. So the original post I replied to was said that Hojlund was "setting up" from the wings and not Lookman.
It all started with me saying that Lookman plays the Support Striker role and @Lyng disagreeing.
It's pretty clear to me that Hojlund is holding up the ball on the wings. But when the team solidifies possession and moves into attack, it seems it's Lookman who will set up Hojlund from the wings rather than the other way round in that partnership. And it coincides with what Hojlund himself says.
Thanks! Ties up well with a couple of all touches videos I have seen. I have said it before.. he looks like a well rounded player in terms of physicality, technique, movement and finishing. Which is great for a 20 year old. People here harping on his output should look at the "output" of Garnacho. But would you say Garnacho didn't have impact last season? At a younger age most players aren't prolific. But the good ones become over time.
We are waiting for Spurs to name Harry Kanes price...
Yeah there was a video which showed all his shots last season except one were from inside the box. He is very much a #9 in that sense.
Why people think that spending millions upon millions of pounds is as quick as FM or heading on to Amazon is beyond me
It takes a long time because they are trying to fleece us. Only way to reduce the United Tax is to make sure that it wont be worth the seller's time to bump up the fees disproportionately. We have to be the Daniel Levy of buyers.
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