Club Sale | It’s done!

Status
Not open for further replies.

Fr. Todd Unctious

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jul 23, 2016
Messages
2,108
Location
Craggy Island Prison
When it breaks it will come from either the glazers or Raine themselves and I can categorically tell you that not a single member of staff at United from ARNOLD to the board to senior staff and players will have a clue until they are informed at the same time.

This isn’t a managerial appointment or a transfer it’s a M&A it will simply be a press release by Raine or the Glazers. Since they are stock exchange listed it will have to happen at the same time to avoid stock manipulation and it’s a legal requirement.

Hence us all finding out at once.

Athletic, Ornstien, Keegan or Stoney won’t have a clue until it’s announced.

And in the extremely unlikely event something is announced by a journalist it'll be a City/Biz journalist like Klienmann or Faisal Islam not any of the above or any other sports journalist
 

UnitedSofa

You'll Never Walk Away
Joined
Jul 12, 2013
Messages
6,962
This imminent news of Jassim winning (announced tomorrow) - kind of explains why we're going after Rice, Caicedo and Mount in recent days
 

RedDevilQuebecois

New Member
Joined
May 27, 2021
Messages
8,256
This imminent news of Jassim winning (announced tomorrow) - kind of explains why we're going after Rice, Caicedo and Mount in recent days
I hope so because I just want to get this sale done so we can start focusing on pressing issues with our football teams - men's and women's alike.
 

seegoblu

Full Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2016
Messages
289
Sure but, the Glazers are the board, they control it.

Noted it is difficult to dissect a decision into whether it is a 'Glazer only' decision or a 'whole club board decision.'

Here the position is further confused because one buyer Jassim is looking to buy the whole club, involving Class A and B, whereas another is seeking to buy Class B shares from only the Glazers.

Who decides which offer to go for? The Glazers, they are therefore acting as the board in making that decision on behalf of all shareholders and not just as the individual Glazer family group of shareholders.

It becomes messy because in their capacity as the board they have to consider the best interest of 'all' the shareholders and that is where they could become unstuck.

They can't assign the Jassim offer as being just a personal, 'Glazer only', decision because he wants to buy all the shares and the Glazer's will be making a decision on behalf of the Class A owners.

Sir Jim's offer, in the absence of any other party making an offer, could have been a 'Glazer only' decision but that is not the case because of Jassim's offer.
If SJR only wants to buy the Glazers’ shares, the board does not necessarily have the authority to approve the sale of shares or even a role to play in the transaction. If SJR wants all the shares, the assets of the club, propose to merge an entity he owns or controls with the club, or enter into a commercial contract with the club, then the board might have something to approve.

In that instance, the Glazers almost certainly will be recused from voting on the board for the very same reason you’ve mentioned, they have a conflict of interest. The board’s independent directors would provide any approval that might be required.
 

dacore

New Member
Newbie
Joined
May 11, 2023
Messages
104
If this is true (Jassim winning) I´m gonna celebrate this day more than X-mas.
 

Tender Teacher

New Member
Newbie
Joined
May 13, 2023
Messages
136

croadyman

Full Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2018
Messages
35,971
It's blindingly obvious that Jassim is most likely the winner of the auction (being way richer than INEOS) and that it will be announced in the next fortnight. So predicting that doesn't require any special insight or knowledge.

I predict the next general election will be in Autumn 2024 and the tories will get battered. See. It's easy.
What makes you think it will be within 2 weeks
 

NK86

Full Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2012
Messages
10,476
If SJR only wants to buy the Glazers’ shares, the board does not necessarily have the authority to approve the sale of shares or even a role to play in the transaction. If SJR wants all the shares, the assets of the club, propose to merge an entity he owns or controls with the club, or enter into a commercial contract with the club, then the board might have something to approve.

In that instance, the Glazers almost certainly will be recused from voting on the board for the very same reason you’ve mentioned, they have a conflict of interest. The board’s independent directors would provide any approval that might be required.
Correct me if I am wrong. Raine is employed by the club, not the Glazers. If the SJR offer is deemed as a personal offer to the Glazers, why would Raine in their capacity of managing the bids for Manchester United be involved in dissecting it or even comparing it to SJ offer as that would then be the only offer which would be considered for a Board decision as per your explanation.
 

The Ferociousness

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Feb 23, 2023
Messages
65
The glazers have killed all the buzz out of this takeover saga by dragging this through the transfer window. They're the number one killjoy when it comes to transfers and now takeovers. I only look forward to a new era, the announcement of Sheikh Jassim won't hit the same way as if it was announced back in April Or May, as we could strategise our targets a lot better and we'd see some changes to the backroom staff with the likes of Arnold and Murtough being given their well deserved p45's
 

Marcelinho87

Full Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2010
Messages
7,370
Location
Barnsley
This imminent news of Jassim winning (announced tomorrow) - kind of explains why we're going after Rice, Caicedo and Mount in recent days
Not really, he could well win tomorrow but expect another 2 or 3 months before he becomes owner.

Not sure if he'd be allowed to spend before that?
 

Perception

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jun 26, 2023
Messages
18
Not really, he could well win tomorrow but expect another 2 or 3 months before he becomes owner.

Not sure if he'd be allowed to spend before that?
I have done zero research into this but how could City launch a bid for Robinho on deadline day when they just got taken over back in 2008.
 

stevoc

Full Member
Joined
Jun 11, 2011
Messages
21,523
Not really, he could well win tomorrow but expect another 2 or 3 months before he becomes owner.

Not sure if he'd be allowed to spend before that?
Don't take the transfer muppets hope away with common sense mate.
 

greenoffpearson

New Member
Newbie
Joined
May 1, 2023
Messages
189
If SJR only wants to buy the Glazers’ shares, the board does not necessarily have the authority to approve the sale of shares or even a role to play in the transaction. If SJR wants all the shares, the assets of the club, propose to merge an entity he owns or controls with the club, or enter into a commercial contract with the club, then the board might have something to approve.

In that instance, the Glazers almost certainly will be recused from voting on the board for the very same reason you’ve mentioned, they have a conflict of interest. The board’s independent directors would provide any approval that might be required.
Correct me if I am wrong. Raine is employed by the club, not the Glazers. If the SJR offer is deemed as a personal offer to the Glazers, why would Raine in their capacity of managing the bids for Manchester United be involved in dissecting it or even comparing it to SJ offer as that would then be the only offer which would be considered for a Board decision as per your explanation.
All great points above and by other Cafe members.

The very fact that even we can identify so many weaknesses would be points clearly not be lost on the share investor groups.

As a minimum all they need is an arguable case which, even on the bare bones, we can see as simple bystanders. Those investor groups are battle hardened take no prisoner types and will go for the kill.

If it goes to court then they would want everything disclosed, and even using my Poundland calculator with not enough digits to go into a billions, everyone will be able to see that the share price, if sold to Sir Jim, will be depressed for at least a generation, at around the $10 mark.

Raine, Glazers, the board all in court explaining how they served ALL the shareholders best interests in picking a bid that , literally, killed the share price for Class A shares, that $10 dollars is better than $38 dollars.

However, even before they could make a decision in Sir Jim's favour, the board, even if the Glazer family recused themselves, would in fairness have to be presented with both bids and then pick one bid over the other.

If we think about it, how can the board only be presented with Sir Jim's offer, the question would be who decided that only one offer should be presented, again the Glazers cartel.

The process of how they, the Glazers/the board, would select one bid would be part of the court case in amplifying how they came to a particular decision.

Even in that situation it's difficult to mentally come to a conclusion that Sir Jim's offer is a better offer for all the shareholders? How would a truly independent board decide that way.

If it was a case that there was only one offer, the Sir Jim offer, then it would be just a decision for the Glazer family because it would only involve their shareholding.

Here that is not the case and because Jassim wants to purchase the whole club then the Glazer"s would be in a conflicted role as board members.

Here, it is even more convoluted because the Glazer's have run the club with an iron grip since club was listed on the New York Stock Exchange, all the board members would have been picked through them and their independency would then be subject to another round of kicking from the investor groups.

All in all the Glazers look like they will have a day in court if they sell out those investors.

For a family who work under a say nothing philosophy that in itself will be interesting.

I suspect that Jassim's team have weighed all of this up in placing their bids.
 
Last edited:

Marcelinho87

Full Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2010
Messages
7,370
Location
Barnsley
of course he's a journalist, he hosts a show on NBC Sports

why do people hate on this guy so much?
Makes me laugh ,continual hate, then he tweets something which turns out to be true and people eat humble pie and then they go back to hating.

It's obvious he has connections, like him or not he knows more than most.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.