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Now would be about the perfect time to release bad new, so I'm going with the theory that no news is probably good news right now.
At least the TikToker had some eye candy. What do you have to say for yourself?So don't take this with a pinch of salt, don't take it at all because honestly it's from a source that I've no reason to trust because I don't even properly know him. However, I've been told that the Glazers are staying. This was decided a while back now, but they are trying to keep a lid on it until they have a signing to announce and soften the blow.
They thought this was happening soon with Mount but now there's pressure to announce what's happening and they are trying desperately to wait until we get someone in. This is made more difficult by the manager being very specific about who he wants and not just accepting whoever they can quickly sign.
Again, don't shoot the messenger because literally it's not even come from a friend of a friend. More a friend of an associate, and I am the least ITK person around. If it's true though, then I genuinely give up... Time to try to get into American Handball instead!
Edit: before anyone asks why bother posting it at all - Because I'm feeling very sad at the very thought of it and would like someone to tell me it's nonsense please.
Yes and no.The stock price doesn’t mean much when it comes to the takeover. It fluctuates daily - people read far too much into it.
Got to love a Sunday
Yes and no.
People shouldn't read into normal daily fluctuations. Large movements do show how the market is being driven almost entirely by Twitter rumours.
Of course. The devilish family tree is legendary.
There's no signing we could make that'd soften such a blow. It's nonsense anyway as they'd have to let Raine Group know, and we'd find out from the bidders that it's over
Not even Weghorst?
Isn’t it the AGM tomorrow in NY?
Surely Arnold is going to be pressed for an update of sorts from the A share holders?
Will be very interesting as to how deflective the answers are…..while there will be nothing concrete this is the first AGM since the ‘strategic’ review started…..it cannot just be ignored.
Why does anyone believe that the public shareholders have any cause of action against the Glazers or the board if the Glazers' decide to take Sir Jim's offer and sell all or a portion of the shares that the Glazers own?
While the board is a fiduciary to the company and its shareholders, any offer to the Glazers' for their shares is completely independent from the board. The offer is for the Glazers' shares, which they are free to sell, hold, leverage, lend, etc. as they wish. If someone comes in seeking 100% of the club's shares or some or all of the club's assets, then the board gets involved and has liability for their actions (or inactions).
When shareholders sell their shares, the board (generally) has no say in the matter (I am ignoring the possibility of tag along, drag along or other shareholder rights that might implicate board action).
Well in my case it's because I want Jassim to win so anything that might hinder Ratcliffe being successful bidder I am taking
You got nothing to worry about mate. There’s no chance they are staying. It’s going to be one of the two bidders. They don’t have the means to continue running the club without driving it into the ground. If they were staying there is no way even 5 of the best signings would soften the blow.So don't take this with a pinch of salt, don't take it at all because honestly it's from a source that I've no reason to trust because I don't even properly know him. However, I've been told that the Glazers are staying. This was decided a while back now, but they are trying to keep a lid on it until they have a signing to announce and soften the blow.
They thought this was happening soon with Mount but now there's pressure to announce what's happening and they are trying desperately to wait until we get someone in. This is made more difficult by the manager being very specific about who he wants and not just accepting whoever they can quickly sign.
Again, don't shoot the messenger because literally it's not even come from a friend of a friend. More a friend of an associate, and I am the least ITK person around. If it's true though, then I genuinely give up... Time to try to get into American Handball instead!
Edit: before anyone asks why bother posting it at all - Because I'm feeling very sad at the very thought of it and would like someone to tell me it's nonsense please.
Why does anyone believe that the public shareholders have any cause of action against the Glazers or the board if the Glazers' decide to take Sir Jim's offer and sell all or a portion of the shares that the Glazers own?
It has been suggested that for the chairmen of the company to negotiate such a deal against the interests of the shareholders would be a breach of company law in the Cayman Islands where the company is incorporated. I doubt many people here are experts on Cayman Island company law but hedge funders have made threats.
It’s because of the volume of shares being sold. If they sell, say, their 69% holding that should trigger a right to buy the remaining shares. Ineos do not want to buy the remainder, so in all likelihood, if Ineos win, the remaining A class shares will plummet, rather than them being worth the same value as the Glazer shares.Why does anyone believe that the public shareholders have any cause of action against the Glazers or the board if the Glazers' decide to take Sir Jim's offer and sell all or a portion of the shares that the Glazers own?
While the board is a fiduciary to the company and its shareholders, any offer to the Glazers' for their shares is completely independent from the board. The offer is for the Glazers' shares, which they are free to sell, hold, leverage, lend, etc. as they wish. If someone comes in seeking 100% of the club's shares or some or all of the club's assets, then the board gets involved and has liability for their actions (or inactions).
When shareholders sell their shares, the board (generally) has no say in the matter (I am ignoring the possibility of tag along, drag along or other shareholder rights that might implicate board action).
It means people in the stock market are feeling less confident the takeover will happen soon.The share price has fallen quite a bit today… has anyone seen anything which might indicate why?
Betcha we find one...
It means people in the stock market are feeling less confident the takeover will happen soon.
It’s because of the volume of shares being sold. If they sell, say, their 69% holding that should trigger a right to buy the remaining shares. Ineos do not want to buy the remainder, so in all likelihood, if Ineos win, the remaining A class shares will plummet, rather than them being worth the same value as the Glazer shares.
More importantly some of those minor shareholders have also invested with the Glazers in other projects, so yes they would be a little bit peeved that the Glazers got $36-38 per share on their investment and they will get nothing but instead keep their money in a company run by SJR where the NYSE would instant fear a massive drop in the share value, thus losing these minority shareholders millions of dollars and in some cases hundreds of millions of dollars, why would the NYSE back them because they would be afraid that the company would be delisted from New York and listed in London, it’s simply fraught with financial risk and the compromise might be SJR having to buy 100% too !Well in my case it's because I want Jassim to win so anything that might hinder Ratcliffe being successful bidder I am taking
Totally agree latest Twitter ITK rumour is the Glazers want confirmation that whatever they spend this summer will be reimbursed by Sheikh Jasim, you couldn’t make it up and he wants a deal. Fully agreed before he says yes to that! I think it’s time to all true united fans just switch off from all the noise!You got nothing to worry about mate. There’s no chance they are staying. It’s going to be one of the two bidders. They don’t have the means to continue running the club without driving it into the ground. If they were staying there is no way even 5 of the best signings would soften the blow.
Isn’t it the AGM tomorrow in NY?
Surely Arnold is going to be pressed for an update of sorts from the A share holders?
Will be very interesting as to how deflective the answers are…..while there will be nothing concrete this is the first AGM since the ‘strategic’ review started…..it cannot just be ignored.
The share price has fallen quite a bit today… has anyone seen anything which might indicate why?
Does anyone know/remember what time those quarterly financial results are released tomorrow?
(the ones that tell us if the Glazers pinched their dividends)
Thanks Ken. All my love to DeirdreTomorrow, protest at the megastore before opening time at 10am, fiscal accounts out at 12pm...
From what I can see, both shirt release and accounts being published are a week or two earlier than normal.
Thanks Ken. All my love to Deirdre
If that was the case then Sheikh Jassim could easily just say yeah no problem, don’t sign anyone, I’ll sort it out myself when I takeover.Totally agree latest Twitter ITK rumour is the Glazers want confirmation that whatever they spend this summer will be reimbursed by Sheikh Jasim, you couldn’t make it up and he wants a deal. Fully agreed before he says yes to that! I think it’s time to all true united fans just switch off from all the noise!
Results announced tomorrow but think AGM on WednesdayIsn’t it the AGM tomorrow in NY?
Surely Arnold is going to be pressed for an update of sorts from the A share holders?
Will be very interesting as to how deflective the answers are…..while there will be nothing concrete this is the first AGM since the ‘strategic’ review started…..it cannot just be ignored.
You blind? He's not the source he's commenting on an interesting article.Pilib De Brun? Well I'm convinced ...
So the twitter rumour didn’t come to pass.
So for more desperate people there’s this article.
https://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ra...-sale-expected-pre-q3-earnings-implications-f
Suggests announcement is tomorrow ahead of AGM
I’m amazed this hasn’t blown up they are extremely reliable and up there with Reuters wall st journal.
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