Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Nowadays, I'm unsure if there's much of a difference, tbh.
Well, it means that if a party steps up and says no state-owned clubs, you vote them in.
As for the multi-polar world remark, it's to do with countries who may not share your values gaining influence and especially economic power. Those countries may not appeal to everyone but it's where we are.
A lousy hack is a much better description, thankfully the majority of people realise that as well and know not to take him seriously. Especially on anything United related.
Again, I'm not sure what you think matters especially, or makes being gone after for making a perfectly legitimate journalistic point by a state journalist any more acceptable.
Yep. that has been my main fear & I dont believe SJR is going to help us to compete with these oligarchs.
Jimboy is welcome to bid for Liverpool with a scheme like that
Main worry with INEOS bid anyway, I would say the main concern is the Glazers just staying put with a refinanced deal.
I don't, either.
Journalists threatening journalists, yeah this is going to end well.
You should give your head a wobble.
So a country doesn’t share all your values so their people should suffer and the country should be financially exploited by those who share your values for your benefit?
Didn’t really threaten him there did he?
fecking hell
Imagine the club being saddled with the Glazer debt for another few decades
In slight defence of Delaney he heavily criticised the Newcastle takeover too. He's still a muppet though.
Yeah but there's a reason these sheikhs are buying Western assets and not the other way around
I'm sure Miguel will be safe and welcome in Qatar. Especially in tall buildings.
To me the main worry is glazers lite owner again. I knew for sure that Glazers want out. Their whole operation has always been profits & ROIs. They think they have reached maximum potential of Manchester United, given all expensive contracts, uncertainty if investments are gonna pay off (players), OT investments needed & on top of that to keep competing with guys from ME. They have been savvy in looting us & they wanted out from last year after Ole experiment failed.
Atleast that's what I read between the lines.
I think in this particular instance the tweet sounds a bit weird due to him not being a native English speaker and it being a mistranslation. I think he meant "critics" instead of "opponents". Or at least I hope he did.
This is just pure speculation from a single Adam Crafton twitter reply for what it's worth.
It doesn’t really I was just pointing out the word ‘journalist’ was doing a lot of heavy lifting there. That said none of this matters in the grand scheme of things, if the Glazers accept the Qatari’s offer they’ll takeover the club regardless of what you, me or Miguel Delaney say about it. Same goes for INEOS or whoever else it may be. All this discussion is meaningless but seeing as it’s an internet forum we do it anyway.
I think this is all going to end badly for us. In light of what FSG have just announced, I don't think the Glazers are going anywhere soon.
In this case, you don't really need to ask that question, though.
The likelihood of "nine two" (a.k.a. "so-cringe-it's-almost-admirable") not being...well, let's just stick with what you said: "backed with state funds" is very, very close to feck all.
Miguel's tweet was journalism in it's most fundamental and important sense, holding the powerful to account for their actions.
If they don’t pay off the existing club debts its a non starter
That's not true and shoddy journalism. It was reported a week ago that their financing deal with Goldman Sachs will in fact clear the 600m debt.
I note that you are one of the strongest opponents of the Qatari takeover of Manchester United. But I'd like to assure you, we'll be doing a total acquisition soon.
Where I come from that looks like a veiled threat. Like me saying I can't help but notice that you're disagreeing with me, but rest assured I know you leave you back door open when you go to work.
And then you come back home to find a shit in your kettle.
Maybe, but I still think he's planning to shit in Delaney's kettle.
That's genuinely really kind of Goldman Sachs. I swear some investment banks get a really bad rap but for them to just come in and clear the debt like that to help a boyhood fan achieve his dream of owning Manchester United is just absolutely admirable.
They haven’t even had chance to do due diligence yet the fecking presumptuous wind up merchant.
I ask it anyway mainly because it makes a difference from a structural ownership point of view
Ultimately Im interested to know who the other private bidders are
I suspect people are reading into Adam's speculation a lot deeper than they should be, financially it makes no sense not to refinance the debt onto Ineos' books when they complete the takeover anyway. That debt is not financed on terms which are remotely reasonable if you have the facility to buy a £5bn club.
I'll be honest, it doesn't sound like a direct threat (e.g. harm on life), I just assumed it more "Get used to be disappointed when we take over"
Jim's pitch is "we are slightly better than Glazers".
I find it impossible for IENOS to absorb their debt plus ours without drawing on club funds.
I find it impossible for IENOS to absorb their debt plus ours without drawing on club funds.
l’m sure you’ll give him a follow then if you haven’t already. A real source of groundbreaking journalism.
I’m sure there’s dark money everywhere. Not even dark money but investors who simply want to remain hidden away.
There’s a Chelsea fan theory that Saudi money is involved in their ownership consortium as an example. That doesn’t automatically mean state ownership.
What gets me is the credited rumour that there were two Qatari bids potentially on the table, still could be with news of several more offered we know nothing about. At the very least that’s just had business
IF being the operative word. We don’t know whats true or not yet. Also the structure of the debt acquired by Ineos needs to he known. Liabilities of the parent company can have an impact on the club.
If these things are in order then its not a bad option
I understand what you’re saying I just didn’t really read it like that. I accept it could come across that way though. Language barrier may be a factor.
True.
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