Would you give up Casemiro for another DM just because of age?
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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Imagine turning your nose up at this. Some of you are fecking mental.
It's absolutely insane.
Imagine turning your nose up at this. Some of you are fecking mental.
A chance to sign one of the Premier League's best ever strikers who is still pretty much at the top of his game.
Imagine turning your nose up at this. Some of you are fecking mental.
Some of those talking about age, planning and the future probably think they sound cool and intelligent. It's amusing.
I can totally understand your point and get the impression that signing Kane very much divides the fanbase. There is one side who like you thinks we need to bring him in to provide a proven striker to sit nicely down to the spine to Rapha & Casa. Then there is the other side who feel he has lost a step in the last couple of seasons and we should be looking at someone more long term such as Osimhen/Sesko/Vlahovic.
I really can't decide which side I am on this one because there are merits to any of these signings, quite frankly I am surprised that Osimhen is so far ahead of Kane in the poll considering just how many goals he's scored in Premier League.
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We’ll need cover/replacement within 2 seasons probably. Once players get to 32 it can become unpredictable. Some dip quickly and some carry on at a high level, hard to say.
Surely there is no way we are buying both in a million years not when we need a top CM as well. I could only see it happening if we got sold to a rich middle east state where money is no object it's just materialistic.
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Makes too much sense for both Harry and United.
We have Anthony Martial and Wout Weghorst at the moment and people are suggesting this would hurt United
Casemiro, Varane, Bruno and Eriksen are not getting any younger. The time to win is now.
We have Anthony Martial and Wout Weghorst at the moment and people are suggesting this would hurt United
Casemiro, Varane, Bruno and Eriksen are not getting any younger. The time to win is now.
No chance he will be available then
Makes too much sense for both Harry and United.
We have Anthony Martial and Wout Weghorst at the moment and people are suggesting this would hurt United
Casemiro, Varane, Bruno and Eriksen are not getting any younger. The time to win is now.
Exactly - it’s a perfect move for both.
The striker pool is currently pathetic - the only ones of an elite standard are 28+. Haaland and Nunez are horrific footballers, and Mbappe isn’t a traditional striker.
Kane with less obligation to be both the goalscorer and playmaker in a team with a positive trajectory will have an Indian summer in his career.
Its bonkers. The other options mentioned are Sesko who has 5 goal in 16 games...in Austria.Makes too much sense for both Harry and United.
We have Anthony Martial and Wout Weghorst at the moment and people are suggesting this would hurt United
Casemiro, Varane, Bruno and Eriksen are not getting any younger. The time to win is now.
Then there is Osimen who is having his first world class season and already cost Napoli £65m and I'm sure they will want to make a nice profit.
I'd prefer Toney, tbh, always assuming he doesn't end up in prison
You can’t go to prison for putting in a couple of bets every week.
Imagine turning your nose up at this. Some of you are fecking mental.
Yeah surely even Osimhen's biggest supporters on the CAF can't fail to acknowledge these numbers
Makes too much sense for both Harry and United.
We have Anthony Martial and Wout Weghorst at the moment and people are suggesting this would hurt United
Casemiro, Varane, Bruno and Eriksen are not getting any younger. The time to win is now.
It’s mad. People suggesting we blood a young striker with all the experience and class we have in the side now. Or spend twice the price on Osimhen who could totally bomb in the PL.
It’s Harry Kane, FFS. Don’t overthink it.
If Harry Kane is gettable next season, within reason, you sign him. There can't possibly be a question about it. Unless you have absolutely no idea who Harry Kane is. He instantly makes us contenders in whatever competition we're in. That simple really.
Yeah like I just said in above post why is he only just over 31% in the poll but Osimhen is over 68%
What do you feel is reasonable price for him with only a year left on contract
If we get new owners who are prepared to spend, this is a no brainer.. the only downside would be the price / age. If we have money to burn, then sure.. fantastic striker.
Yeah hopefully that happens and we can sort out our top ST and top CM issues in first XI, we can then look at some shrewd free signings such as N'dicka, Rabiot (yes I know) and Tielemans to give us some squad depth
Kane will be 30 by next season start I believe and that really is not much for a striker.
If we could sign him only a fool would say no.
If we could sign him only a fool would say no.
Depends on the price tag. You're not acknowledging that he's also aging and has played huge minutes across multiple seasons and has played a significant portion of his career for Poch and Conte who both run their players into the ground. If the price is right, Kane could be a great deal but it's not like its a slam dunk with no risk involved at the higher prices especially if we're taken over by a regular consortium of businessmen who don't have limitless pools of Saudi blood money burning holes in their pockets.
Finally, it's worth noting that up until this season Kane's strike partner would also have been portrayed as a slam dunk signing last year and now there's plenty of question marks.
What would you consider the right price for him
What I would consider reasonable and to minimise the risk involved would not be a runner for Daniel Levy. There's no way I'd be paying 80mn or some of the prices speculated on here for a 30 year old with a year left on his contract when we have financial trouble and no certainty as to who our new owners are or their financial fire power.
There's extremes when it comes to players with a year left on their contract.
You'll have someone like Hazard who was still at the peak of his powers when he left Chelsea so they somehow got north of 100m for him (160m in total apparently). Then you'll have someone like a Mané who was sold for a cut price fee of 40m at the same age as Kane would be.
Something in between (60-80m) would be justifiable for Kane but I suspect and fear that his profile in the league and importance to his team beyond his on pitch contributions could skyrocket his value to them and their asking price to north of 100m even with a year left. I genuinely believe that they'd demand a league record fee for him.
I also believe he'd go for quite a bit less if he was sold abroad. The sting of selling him to a domestic rival though will factor greatly in whatever compensation they'd ask from a club like United in my opinion.
Would you push out boat more for him if new owners are willing to spend big
New owners and the price tag is irrelevant. Kane is a good shout as long as he stays fit. We should also scout and sign a 20-22 year old striker to supplement and gradually take over from Kane.
Because 31% of us can recognize top class when we see it?
I think he will. Given the price being bandied about by Spurs and the limited offers they'll receive, he might well be made to stay and leave on a free. Levy knows that another year of Kane is just the job to paper over the cracks and if they do manage to finish 4th, forget it - he's staying.
What are your own thoughts on importance of resale value
I think he may be the final jigsaw. If he comes we'll probably win the league.
Still need that progressive CM to complete first XI
Not directed at Croadyman ....
Mine are that if it works out why would we ever want to sell?
And if doesn't work out he's worth feck all anyway!
If you're worried about resale values then you're buying player for the wrong reasons
My thoughts are that we shouldn’t be selling our best players in the first place so why it should matter at all to anyone baffles me. Sure the club should generally make smart, longterm investments. But now and again you pay up for the finished article and don’t think twice about it when a Casemiro or Kane becomes available.
If Kane is really going to cost a bomb, then United have to be extremely shrewd and hit on their other transfer targets.
Pretty much everyone is under the assumption that a new ownership group will just open their pockets and have a blank check, when nobody has any clue what is to happen and how aggressive selling clubs will be with United under new owners.
Pretty much everyone is under the assumption that a new ownership group will just open their pockets and have a blank check, when nobody has any clue what is to happen and how aggressive selling clubs will be with United under new owners.
Osimhen I understand the argument as he is a class player who would probably do very well here, but just would likely cost 100-150m.
Vlahovic is entirely average though, and wouldn't really improve us. Sesko is promising, but nowhere near ready. He's barely an automatic starter at Salzburg and is taking a step at Leipzig first anyway. In 3 more seasons, sure let's look at Sesko
I didn’t realise he was heading into his last year. I thought he extended honestly. If that’s the case then this may actually be doable at a reasonable fee.
No more than 60m. Though my immediate reaction is "who knows what a reasonable fee is anymore?". It's not my money though. So long as it doesn't compromise other targets (hopefully there's new ownership in place), then it's within reason for me.
I've never understood the resale value thing in relation to United. That's something perennial feeder clubs worry about. The top brass don't worry about how much they will make off a player's sale when buying him.
Bit arrogant considering we're in the financial position of having to loan a forward from a championship club because our owners have bled the club dry.