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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
It was originally going to be a 4 part mini series on HBO Max, then it was decided that it would be a movie instead.
China: "You sure?"
Like it says, the Snyder Cut was going to be a 4 part series and is now a movie instead.
I’m hoping I’m wrong, but I really expect this to be an underwhelming 4 hour clusterfeck.
Wait they’re just releasing a 4 hour movie? 
they’re a rotten bunch.
they’re a rotten bunch.I think this will be OKish. They still have no idea how to handle the universe though and the fact that they're releasing this outside of DCCU makes it even more confusing.
Can't be worse than the Whedon version at least
If it is a success they might just use this version as being in the DCEU in place of the previous version, as the story most likely won't affect anything that came after it.
"I just feel like I didn't get to see out my vision for the movie. Just give me four hours running time and I promise I'll make something memorable"
Is like going out on a date, realising she's not into you and then pleading with her to give you a few more hours so she can see the real you.
Is like going out on a date, realising she's not into you and then pleading with her to give you a few more hours so she can see the real you.
Can't be worse than the Whedon version at least
If it is a success they might just use this version as being in the DCEU in place of the previous version, as the story most likely won't affect anything that came after it.
So we'll have a new movie replacing a previously canon movie with characters which replace previous and new characters which may or may not replace existing characters in the DC universe. We also may or may not have a new superman and have a movie coming which has multiple batman's. None of which have been truly established. Got it.
If it doesn't affect anything afterwards it's even worse as what direction are they heading?
Agreed that this sounds better than the original though
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit, if they wanted to give us a sweet Afro-centric DC character they should have just given us John Stewart, Green Lantern.
For feck sake.
Why is introducing a black superman in any way a problem apart from the mess of the DCEU?
It's not a problem.
Speaking to a number of comic fans of mine that are black, their perspective is that they would much prefer to develop original black character's that are more interesting and more representative of their identity and background.
Agreed, but any character can be represented by anyone who fits the role. There aren't really more interesting characters than superheroes where you can play them to extremes and play the role to whatever you want in terms of background.
True but I think changing a character everyone knows into something different can also give you different ideas to play off. I would think there are creative things you can do with the Superman character that you can't with original characters as you don't have audience expectations and an established mythology to play with.
Same reason why I don't want an american James Bond. I like the source meterial to be respected, this is just pathetic pandering. If skin colour is what they are doing to try and sell the movie, it will always fail. Just like how I don't want a male Tomb Raider. Larry Croft.
We're not going to agree, but I'll assume that they've picked the best actor for the role rather than worry about what they look like.
Why do you assume they've picked the actor because of skin colour?
Larry Croft
How would they be changing the character though? Like would it be a Jane Foster becoming Thor, or Miles Morales becoming Spiderman then that's fair game.
Think DC doing standalones along with DCEU is a terrible idea and will be confusing for viewers. To this day the average viewer doesn't understand the MCU was different to X-Men/Amazing Spidermen, because despite being from completely different studios and having nothing to do with one another, they were all marvel.
From my understanding this would be the same studio doing the standalones and the universe? Just leave it behind and stick to standalone stories.
Think DC doing standalones along with DCEU is a terrible idea and will be confusing for viewers. To this day the average viewer doesn't understand the MCU was different to X-Men/Amazing Spidermen, because despite being from completely different studios and having nothing to do with one another, they were all marvel.
From my understanding this would be the same studio doing the standalones and the universe? Just leave it behind and stick to standalone stories.
Because that's all Hollywood seem to be doing these days in every movie. Should make Black panther a white guy and see how they react.
Is Hemsworth no longer playing Thor after Blood and Thunder? Or is Jane Foster playing Thor as well?
Wow. I'm sad you feel that way.
Are people annoyed a fictional character can be played by a black person?
You cannot honestly be that naïve. Do you think Gal Gadot got the role of Wonder Woman for her acting skills?
I wonder if you would say the same thing if Black Panther was portrayed by a white dude. Probably not.
So we'll have a new movie replacing a previously canon movie with characters which replace previous and new characters which may or may not replace existing characters in the DC universe. We also may or may not have a new superman and have a movie coming which has multiple batman's. None of which have been truly established. Got it.
If it doesn't affect anything afterwards it's even worse as what direction are they heading?
Agreed that this sounds better than the original though
Most of the characters are the same, and new ones can just be included in new movies with reasons for not showing up since etc.
The new Superman movie is a standalone and not even related to the DCEU. The Flash Movie will have 2 versions of Batman, the one from the DCEU which is Ben Affleck, and the other being Michael Keaton, as the Flash movie is bringing in parallel earths/the multiverse.
The new Batman movie is not DCEU related and is starring Robert Pattison.
That's kind of my point. It's just confusing if you just watch the movies rather than are invested in the universe.
It has nothing to do with Snyder not being able to see out his vision for the movie, he didn't even direct/produce the original JL movie. Snyder's daughter died during production so he was no longer involved with the movie, thus Whedon was brought in and done all his own shoots and barely anything of Snyder's made it into the movie.
Can't wait for the Ryan Reynolds reboot.
You cannot honestly be that naïve. Do you think Gal Gadot got the role of Wonder Woman for her acting skills?
She's a great Wonder Woman in the first one though so however she was picked it worked. I'm not that naïve no, but couldn't care less what nationality the actor is if they fit the role well.
I'm the same with all these superhero movies, whether they're DC or Marvel. They're typically an easy watch as they're easy to follow but all this multiverse, DCEU etc talk goes way over my head.
The multiverse is a massive part of DC, and has been for years, mainly through the comics and some of the animated stuff.
Holy shit. There's going to be a lot of time where the villain stands around during the fights spilling out monologues to explain the story, isn't there?
I think it's great that Snyder has always had a clear vision for his
So his own vision for the movie was always a four hour production? or is the additional time as a consequence of working over Whedon's shoots?
Was speaking more about comic source, dunno what's gonna happen in the film!
Hopefully it's going to be 4 hours of Oh you don't think comic book movies are art Mr Scorsese, well here's Joker Jesus! Synder has by blind luck managed to get millions of dollars to make a very niche cult movie. The Synder Cut will gives us the answer to the question - what would happen if you gave a 19 year old reddit poster who's very angry over the idea of a black James Bond or a male Tomb Raider(It's called Indiana Jones btw)unlimited resources.
It's going to be a terrible movie but a great piece of art.
It's going to be a terrible movie but a great piece of art.
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This is genuinely sounding fascinating, and also completely nuts. With a big dollop of morbid curiosity, I’m actually now looking forward to it. But 4:3 - really?? That’s going to put half the audience off, immediately.