Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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I’m trying something new. No one listens to me when I’m negative... so I’m going to push Ole FC until Woodward finally sacks him.

He needs a RB to deliver like Shaw to put it on Cavani’s head. Seriously aswell. The formula would work.
He won't sack him because of his legendary status as a player and we like to do things cheaply
 

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How does 2nd not prove we're getting somewhere?

If we do indeed finish 2nd, an improvement on last year, how does increasing league positions not show progress?

4th
3rd
and potentially 2nd

Shows that we are and can be challenging for the title
Well if you are talking numbers, Mourinho got 2nd with 81 points. So Ole will have to do better than that to show progress.
And win the Europa or better.
 

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He couldn't beat a relegation contender in Turkey, it's no surprise he keeps dropping points against the likes of WBA for the 3rd season in a row.
 

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If we don't win a trophy this season then he should be sacked. It's HIS team, his tactics, he has no more excuses anymore.

Regardless If we finish 2nd or not, we finished 2nd under Mourinho yet that was no progress according to some United fans I heard at the time so what's the difference here with Ole?

LVG and Mourinho both won trophies in their 2nd season at the club, Ole is near finishing a 3rd season and we haven't even got to a final yet. Ole shouldn't be any differently judged then the rest, it's not good enough still right now
To be fair it would've been progress had the club backed Jose after the campaign.
 

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He couldn't beat a relegation contender in Turkey, it's no surprise he keeps dropping points against the likes of WBA for the 3rd season in a row.
Lets do a TOTP on our worst three performances this season out of Istanbul, Sheff Utd & WBA
 

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I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.
I’m trying something new. No one listens to me when I’m negative... so I’m going to push Ole FC until Woodward finally sacks him.

He needs a RB to deliver like Shaw to put it on Cavani’s head. Seriously aswell. The formula would work.
He won't have to sack him, hopefully he just won't renew his contract which ends this time next year.
 

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He won't have to sack him, hopefully he just won't renew his contract which ends this time next year.
He’ll get sacked if he doesn’t make top 4. Which is very likely. But on the flip reverse if we make top 4. He’ll get an renewal. But it’s our fault as supporters. We are all convinced. Me included... there‘s not a manager out there who can do better. We need to stop promoting mediocrity. I don’t care if it’s packaged as second place. We’ve been here with Jose.
 

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I think we’ve really reached our limit under Ole, I don’t think we will get any better then what we’ve seen this season. Still blow hot and cold too often.

Another issue I’ve found is our football is still incredibly boring and looks like we do nothing in training.
 

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If we don't win a trophy this season then he should be sacked. It's HIS team, his tactics, he has no more excuses anymore.

Regardless If we finish 2nd or not, we finished 2nd under Mourinho yet that was no progress according to some United fans I heard at the time so what's the difference here with Ole?

LVG and Mourinho both won trophies in their 2nd season at the club, Ole is near finishing a 3rd season and we haven't even got to a final yet. Ole shouldn't be any differently judged then the rest, it's not good enough still right now
To be fair he's really ending his second full season this year, the first season he took over halfway through and club was in disarray under Jose. I still agree though he should be judged the same, we need to win something this year although the team is a lot better and has improved than when Jose left.
 

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He’ll get sacked if he doesn’t make top 4. Which is very likely. But on the flip reverse if we make top 4. He’ll get an renewal. But it’s our fault as supporters. We are all convinced. Me included... there‘s not a manager out there who can do better. We need to stop promoting mediocrity. I don’t care if it’s packaged as second place. We’ve been here with Jose.
You're convinced that there isn't a manager out there that can do better than an ex Molde manager..
 

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Who would you like to take over Ole?
Nagelsmann and despite the hiding we gave them would take Hasenhuttl because he has the tactical nous but needs to work with better players in my opinion. I have seen more than enough evidence he is capable of managing this team and not going to let a couple of hammerings change that.
 

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Nagelsmann looks to have that confident and aura, like a young Jose to some extent. He sounds extremely confident in his methods.
 

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Europe League will be our best for a trophy this season since I don't fancy United to get past City either in semi or the final.

In Europe we're really better than Milan, Arsenal and Tottenham.
 

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Nagelsmann looks to have that confident and aura, like a young Jose to some extent. He sounds extremely confident in his methods.
Yeah big fan despite the 5-0 defeat at Old Trafford which lets be honest massively flattered us
 

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Who would you like to take over Ole?
Not sure. I like Marco Rose, but he seems Dortmund bound and he'd of course be a relatively risky appointment. Nagelsmann is the outstanding candidate, but something about him irks me. Wasn't keen on Poch, and most definitely not Allegri. The next appointment needs to be progressive and build on the positive aspects of Ole's reign.

But I'm not expecting anything other than Ole next season. Wouldn't be surprised if we end up this season in a dogfight for top 4 again.
 

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Europe League will be our best for a trophy this season since I don't fancy United to get past City either in semi or the final.

In Europe we're really better than Milan, Arsenal and Tottenham.
Are we ? In this current moment i wouldn’t fancy Zlatan or Kane playing 180mins against our centre backs .
 

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Not sure. I like Marco Rose, but he seems Dortmund bound and he'd of course be a relatively risky appointment. Nagelsmann is the outstanding candidate, but something about him irks me. Wasn't keen on Poch, and most definitely not Allegri. The next appointment needs to be progressive and build on the positive aspects of Ole's reign.

But I'm not expecting anything other than Ole next season. Wouldn't be surprised if we end up this season in a dogfight for top 4 again.
Ole for another season is just depressing
 

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Nagelsmann and despite the hiding we gave them would take Hasenhuttl because he has the tactical nous but needs to work with better players in my opinion
How about Knutsen, he took over Bodø Glimt last year took them to second in the Norwegian league from 11th, and is now heading to winning the league comfortably 20 points ahead of Molde. Proved manager in the Eliteserien..
 

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Yeah big fan despite the 5-0 defeat at Old Trafford which lets be honest massively flattered us
We just ripped them apart on the counter, which coincided with a few individual mistakes from them. But it was a close game before then.
 

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How about Knutsen, he took over Bodø Glimt last year took them to second in the Norwegian league from 11th, and is now heading to winning the league comfortably 20 points ahead of Molde. Proved manager in the Eliteserien..
NO more Norwegian leaguers please
 

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Ole for another season is just depressing
Well, if we manage to have a strong rest of the season and buy two or three top players who make us more balanced and functional, it doesn't have to be. I mean, at that stage there'd be zero excuses for not mounting a serious challenge on all fronts. I'm still open to him proving doubters (including myself) wrong, but if we're heading in the right direction I'm not overly concerned, not least because the problems are still mainly to do with hierarchy, competency and lack of ambition.
 

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Well, if we manage to have a strong rest of the season and buy two or three top players who make us more balanced and functional, it doesn't have to be. I mean, at that stage there'd be zero excuses for not mounting a serious challenge on all fronts. I'm still open to him proving doubters (including myself) wrong, but if we're heading in the right direction I'm not overly concerned, not least because the problems are still mainly to do with hierarchy, competency and lack of ambition.
I don't trust his team selection so could see us going into freefall for a few more games, as for buying two or three top players I don't see it because will roll out the COVID stuff yet again and this will also mean there will be no takers for Pogba either
 

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Well, if we manage to have a strong rest of the season and buy two or three top players who make us more balanced and functional, it doesn't have to be. I mean, at that stage there'd be zero excuses for not mounting a serious challenge on all fronts. I'm still open to him proving doubters (including myself) wrong, but if we're heading in the right direction I'm not overly concerned, not least because the problems are still mainly to do with hierarchy, competency and lack of ambition.
At least you can say that ,a lot of the Ole outers and doubters put him failing above success of the club
 

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Not sure. I like Marco Rose, but he seems Dortmund bound and he'd of course be a relatively risky appointment. Nagelsmann is the outstanding candidate, but something about him irks me. Wasn't keen on Poch, and most definitely not Allegri. The next appointment needs to be progressive and build on the positive aspects of Ole's reign.

But I'm not expecting anything other than Ole next season. Wouldn't be surprised if we end up this season in a dogfight for top 4 again.
Yes allegri would be another wrong appointment just like Jose after van gaal. Nagelsmann seems to soon for me. I also don't think he will choose us.
 
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