IrishRedDevil
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I can’t speak for all fans but I’ve already seen some Liverpool fans on FB saying he was better than De Gea last season based on some silly whoscored rating.Better than DDG?
Obviously De Gea is far better.
I can’t speak for all fans but I’ve already seen some Liverpool fans on FB saying he was better than De Gea last season based on some silly whoscored rating.Better than DDG?
I am not going to argue the point as I haven't seen enough of him but there's a lot of united fans who watch a lot of Roma games to make these pronouncements.I can’t speak for all fans but I’ve already seen some Liverpool fans on FB saying he was better than De Gea last season based on some silly whoscored rating.
Obviously De Gea is far better.
The only Roma games I watched were in the CL and he didn’t look like the best in the world - which he would need to be if he’s better than De Gea.I am not going to argue the point as I haven't seen enough of him but there's a lot of united fans who watch a lot of Roma games to make these pronouncements.
Not that I expect him to be better, just don't get where people get their knowledge from.
Brilliant ladCarry us, Alisson.
Carry us.
Caryus.
Karyus.
Karius.
By that same token if someone had only watched DDG in the World Cup they wouldn't think he’s anything special.The only Roma games I watched were in the CL and he didn’t look like the best in the world - which he would need to be if he’s better than De Gea.
Personally I know how good De Gea is and until Allison does it week in week out in the PL, then saying he’s better or worse doesn’t hold much substance. I’ve read he isn’t great under a high ball which is always great to view when joining the PL.
Also he didn’t look anything special in the World Cup, but that’s international football so it’s not a direct gauge and I won’t use that to judge him.
Seems like you didn’t read my last sentence.By that same token if someone had only watched DDG in the World Cup they wouldn't think he’s anything special.
Alisson is a class above Ederson for me, and Ederson was a top 3 keeper in the prem last season.
Yes, but if you were to sell de Gea, you would probably double up on the price?Difference is, De Gea has been top class for say 3/4 years. Alisson has one good season and is being bought for £67m.
I don’t rate Alisson higher than De Gea, but I do agree that De Gea is a bit overrated in England because he gets more exposure compared to someone like Oblak.They're not. They watch Alisson every game and almost nothing of de gea. De Gea is highly rated in england and among people who follow the PL. I could mention that Oblak has been by far the best goalkeeper in the world in the last 3 seasons. Here, you'll call me crazy. In Spain, pretty much everyone would agree with me
If you asked the average italian who's better between alisson and De Gea, 8 out of 10 would say alisson. People who haven't seen enough of de gea to rate him
I think Leno will also surprise a few with how good he is... plus Pickford potentially if he continues his world cup form... And even courtois goes I'm sure chelsea will spunk a ton of cash on a replacement (oblak?)It's going to be interesting next season for sure. So many so called top dogs playing in goal.
Lloris - Alisson - De Gea - Ederson.
If Courtois would not leave 4/6 highest rated in EPL.
Interesting to see who claims the golden glove...
I never argued that thoughI don’t rate Alisson higher than De Gea, but I do agree that De Gea is a bit overrated in England because he gets more exposure compared to someone like Oblak.
I think Salah, Naby Keita, Shaqiri, Fabinho, Mane, etc were cheaper than 50m. IMO Liverpool have spend Coutinho's money wisely to balance their team.
I hope they don't sign Allison because he is the best GK in the Italian league.
Don't know what this is in response to in particular, but a large amount of the criticism I've seen regarding Liverpool's spending has been specifically aimed at Klopp for being hypocritical. He made a big point to say that he wanted to do things differently than the managers that spent large amounts on individuals, clarifying that he wouldn't do it even if he could. Yet here we are, with him having already made Van Dijk the most expensive defender ever, on the verge of him making Alisson the most expensive goalkeeper ever. It's all well and good bringing up net spend but that's not what people are criticising.
I think most United fans are actually a bit fearful of the squad you're putting together now. You've spent a decade plus going for the bargain option and it's barely ever, if at all, worked out, and your squad has constantly been left with gaping holes and a severe lack of strength in depth. Bit by bit you're adding that much needed quality, addressing longstanding issues, and finally beginning to add some strength outside of your starting line-up. It just happens that you've done this while spending a shit ton of money on individuals just a year or two removed from your manager saying he categorically would not do that. The final piece for Liverpool is to now keep hold of their best performers.
A 4 year plus 1 is normal. But 6 yrs?? In Klopp's words what if the player becomes long term injuredTweet
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Reminds me of the one we gave Moyes (facepalm)6 years is a long contract. Risiko.
The number is right in the tweet you posted, somehow if all the addons are met it will be €69,5m when the number in tweet says €73mTweet
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That's £53m + £9m add-ons. If all add-ons would be realized, it'd be £62m or €69,5m.
You're right, I just used the first "euros to pound" link via Google but wasn't really reliable it seemsThe number is right in the tweet you posted, somehow if all the addons are met it will be €69,5m when the number in tweet says €73m
It's 56 million pounds btw.
Great save. He got there right on time.Cassio made incredible save tonight for Brazilian league
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQOAcToAGVA
Seems more like a technical issue rather than a shot stopping one.Looking at his youtube videos, which I know are not a full reflection of the player, I have to say that his shot stopping ability is not great. He has great reflexes, no doubt, but there were a few double saves which only came because he wasn't about to either hold the ball or he parried the ball back into danger, if the opposition scored from the second shot you would consider them errors by the keeper. He also seems to play from the back a lot and there were situations where he took a long time on the ball and nearly lost it to the opposition.
Alisson did not have a great reputation before last season and therefore is riding more on his previous season. I think it would be more sensible to spend a world record fee on a keeper with more than 1 year of great performances, Oblak would seem the better choice. Overall, seems a very high risk signing and there still a lot left to determine regarding whether he is truly world class.
I admit my ignorance regarding him though as I have only seem him through youtube and the UCL matches v Liverpool.
True, but don't you think it's risky to spend a world record fee on a keeper with a clear technical issue?Seems more like a technical issue rather than a shot stopping one.
Cassio is a giant and makes amazing saves under the goal, but he's the clumsiest keeper I have ever seen in the air, and in my opinion that's why he was never involved in serious business with any European team.Don't know where to post this, but his back up in NT (apart from Ederson), Cassio made incredible save tonight for Brazilian league
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQOAcToAGVA
I always thought of Alisson as a good keeper, but not top tier. I don't think he will compromise Liverpool too much but I also don't believe they should spend a fortune on him, because for that price they should be after world class.I think Ederson should be Brazil's number 1 but lets see how he gets on in the Prem. Seems an awful lot to spend on a keeper. Liverpool are really spending shit loads so would be funny if these big signings flop.
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What about players like Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum who we relied on a lot last season?This notion that Liverpool have improved their squad depth is a bit of a fallacy. They’ve improved their starting XI, but beyond that, there is still nothing except Shaqiri.
Alisson replaces a keeper.
Fabinho and Keita replace Can, who has left, and Ox who is out for the season.
Shaqiri is in. But Ings will be out.
Can didn't feature much since his head was in Torino already so even with Ox out they'll have one more body in the middle of the park with new additions, overall however I agree with you - they definitely improved first team quality though.This notion that Liverpool have improved their squad depth is a bit of a fallacy. They’ve improved their starting XI, but beyond that, there is still nothing except Shaqiri.
Alisson replaces a keeper.
Fabinho and Keita replace Can, who has left, and Ox who is out for the season.
Shaqiri is in. But Ings will be out.